6th Gen Primal Reversion Discussion & Speculation Thread

[Nah]

Wait, new moves? Wouldn't that mean complete and utter lockout for using Groudon/Kyogre in XY, considering how I can't see a move just popping up mid-battle? Or they really are going to patch everything into XY, just unable to obtain em unless through trade. As for the DPt legends, I'm assuming they're not going to be primal, but universal. Or better, Temporal/Spacial/Anti.

It's possible that Gamefreak could implement some sort of patch or DLC or whatever for X/Y to accommodate the new Megas and moves ORAS brings and allow interaction between the 2 sets.

But something I was thinking....what if Primal Groudon's and Primal Kyogre's signature moves are already in X/Y's coding? OR&AS mentioned on the previous page that Primal Kyogre's move looks like a series of water arrows or something....and there was a move discovered by hackers in X/Y's coding called "Thousand Arrows". The more popular theory is that Thousand Arrows and Thousand Waves are supposed to be signature moves for future Zygarde forms, but maybe that's not the case.

Could someone post the screenshots/video showing these new moves of Groudon and Kyorge's? I wanna see them for myself.

 

[Mark Kamill]

You know those shots in the videos with Kyogre and Groudon, the former creating a pressured ball of water and the latter shooting spikes out of the ground we've seen many times? Those are it.

 

[Altius]

Maybe we will know about the moves in the next CoroCoro...

which will be leaking quite soon I believe.

Haven't even following it much because of IFA and tomorrow's Apple event.

 

[babaGAReeb]

Primal Mewtwo

I think there will be more Primal forms then Groudon and Kyogre, most probably Primal Rayquaza

but the one who needs a primal form the most is Mewtwo

Mewtwo is the strongest pokemon and it needs a new primal uber form or it will be overshadowed by lesser legendaries

Mewtwo is the first legendary and if it anyone deserves a primal form it is Mewtwo!

Mewtwo's mega forms kinda suck anyway. now is the chance game freak, correct your mistake and give Mewtwo a form worthy of the best pokemon!

maybe its mega forms can get primal forms too. mega primal mewtwo x and mega primal mewtwo y

 

[Thursday]

I think there will be more Primal forms then Groudon and Kyogre, most probably Primal Rayquaza

but the one who needs a primal form the most is Mewtwo

Mewtwo is the strongest pokemon and it needs a new primal uber form or it will be overshadowed by lesser legendaries

Mewtwo is the first legendary and if it anyone deserves a primal form it is Mewtwo!

Mewtwo's mega forms kinda suck anyway. now is the chance game freak, correct your mistake and give Mewtwo a form worthy of the best pokemon!

maybe its mega forms can get primal forms too. mega primal mewtwo x and mega primal mewtwo y

I'm not sure if you're trolling so I'm going to break this up a bit.

1. Mewtwo was made by scientist so I'm guessing that's why there won't be a primal form like Kyogre and Groudon.
2. Technically, Articuno is the first legendary.
3. Mewtwo's mega forms are not that bad.

 

[babaGAReeb]

I'm not sure if you're trolling so I'm going to break this up a bit.

1. Mewtwo was made by scientist so I'm guessing that's why there won't be a primal form like Kyogre and Groudon.
2. Technically, Articuno is the first legendary.
3. Mewtwo's mega forms are not that bad.

im not troll! u hired by smogon?

1 maybe mewtwo scientists create was born as primal mewtwo but reverted to original mewtwo because of stress

2 im talking about real legendarys! the big ones like giratina, lugia, arceus etc. legendaries like articuno are weak

3 no they are bad! they insult the perfection of Mewtwo! Mewtwo was already the ultimate being, it didnt need to evolve!

 

[OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire]

It's possible that Gamefreak could implement some sort of patch or DLC or whatever for X/Y to accommodate the new Megas and moves ORAS brings and allow interaction between the 2 sets.

But something I was thinking....what if Primal Groudon's and Primal Kyogre's signature moves are already in X/Y's coding? OR&AS mentioned on the previous page that Primal Kyogre's move looks like a series of water arrows or something....and there was a move discovered by hackers in X/Y's coding called "Thousand Arrows". The more popular theory is that Thousand Arrows and Thousand Waves are supposed to be signature moves for future Zygarde forms, but maybe that's not the case.

Could someone post the screenshots/video showing these new moves of Groudon and Kyorge's? I wanna see them for myself.

Yeah, and Groudon's is similar to "Thousand Waves". However, both are ground type moves, so GF will need to patch up Kyogre's move to be a water type move if those are indeed their signature moves.

 

[babaGAReeb]

ive found it, this is what Primal Mewtwo should look like!

yes, this is truly how you improve on perfection.
watch and learn game freak

 

[Lunar]

im not troll! u hired by smogon?

1 maybe mewtwo scientists create was born as primal mewtwo but reverted to original mewtwo because of stress

2 im talking about real legendarys! the big ones like giratina, lugia, arceus etc. legendaries like articuno are weak

3 no they are bad! they insult the perfection of Mewtwo! Mewtwo was already the ultimate being, it didnt need to evolve!

In fairness Articuno is still a legendary, even if you consider them weak Pokemon like Shaymin, Celebi ect are still legendaries. However imo primal evolution should be exclusive to Groundon/Kyogre, besides Mega Mewtwo Y is extremely powerful so I feel Mewtwo is not in need of another upgrade.

 

[Centipede Chan]

Honestly I'd want some type of Mewtwo Robotic version, like with the technology on him in the movie and anime. He would be uncatchable but would be like one of the pokemon the final fight from Team [insert name here].

 

[Controversy]

You kind of contradicted yourself by saying that it was perfect and didn't need to evolve and now asking for a 'primal reversion' considering reversion seems to be pretty similar to mega evolution as far as I am aware.

 

[JP]

ive found it, this is what Primal Mewtwo should look like!

yes, this is truly how you improve on perfection.
watch and learn game freak

That is freakin' scary haha.

I wouldn't be against Mewtwo getting some sort of 'natural' forme. Even more so, I'd love what was mentioned above; some sort of robotic or mechanic forme similar to the first movie.

As a side note... I really like his Megas. I think they're pretty cool.

 

[babaGAReeb]

In fairness Articuno is still a legendary, even if you consider them weak Pokemon like Shaymin, Celebi ect are still legendaries. However imo primal evolution should be exclusive to Groundon/Kyogre, besides Mega Mewtwo Y is extremely powerful so I feel Mewtwo is not in need of another upgrade.

im only talking bout legendaries with 680 and + stats!

meh mew celebi etc they weak legendaries, about as legendary as archanine

its not about an upgrade, its about regaining mewtwos honor! the mega mewtwos r ugly. we need a beautiful primal mewtwo to fix things

Honestly I'd want some type of Mewtwo Robotic version, like with the technology on him in the movie and anime. He would be uncatchable but would be like one of the pokemon the final fight from Team [insert name here].

yeah mewtwo does look baws in that armor thingie giovanii put on him

You kind of contradicted yourself by saying that it was perfect and didn't need to evolve and now asking for a 'primal reversion' considering reversion seems to be pretty similar to mega evolution as far as I am aware.

no i didnt contradict myself! i still think mewtwo needed no evolution and was perfect

but then game freak ruined everything by giving it two ugly mega forms!!!

so to fix the ugly megas we must give it brand new primal form

That is freakin' scary haha.

I wouldn't be against Mewtwo getting some sort of 'natural' forme. Even more so, I'd love what was mentioned above; some sort of robotic or mechanic forme similar to the first movie.

As a side note... I really like his Megas. I think they're pretty cool.

yeah but mewtwo is supposed to be scary

think bout it, mewtwo is a mutated clone! it even has a second spinal cord!

robotic form is gud but its gonna be just like a alternate skin, same ol mewtwo just different lookin

no! dey ugly!

gamefreak! u wronged mewtwo! now give him primal form!

 

[Thursday]

im only talking bout legendaries with 680 and + stats!

meh mew celebi etc they weak legendaries, about as legendary as archanine

its not about an upgrade, its about regaining mewtwos honor! the mega mewtwos r ugly. we need a beautiful primal mewtwo to fix things


no i didnt contradict myself! i still think mewtwo needed no evolution and was perfect

but then game freak ruined everything by giving it two ugly mega forms!!!

so to fix the ugly megas we must give it brand new primal form



yeah but mewtwo is supposed to be scary

think bout it, mewtwo is a mutated clone! it even has a second spinal cord!

robotic form is gud but its gonna be just like a alternate skin, same ol mewtwo just different lookin

no! dey ugly!

gamefreak! u wronged mewtwo! now give him primal form!

So, from what I'm getting you hate the look of Mewtwo's mega forms? I will admit neither are beautiful but neither is Mewtwo's normal form. If they ever do give Mewtwo a primal form it will probably look like Mewtwo with some glowing lines on it.

Two spinal cords? Are you talking about the weird tube thing in the back of its head? Is that a spinal cord? I always thought that was just something that kept its head from falling over since it has a small neck?

 

[babaGAReeb]

So, from what I'm getting you hate the look of Mewtwo's mega forms? I will admit neither are beautiful but neither is Mewtwo's normal form. If they ever do give Mewtwo a primal form it will probably look like Mewtwo with some glowing lines on it.

Two spinal cords? Are you talking about the weird tube thing in the back of its head? Is that a spinal cord? I always thought that was just something that kept its head from falling over since it has a small neck?

i hate almost all megas, they tend to be exaggerated versions of their base forms and really ridiculous lookin

no mewtwo is beautiful!
even if u dont think mewtwo is beautiful, dem megas r just ugly and stupid looking

im fine with shiny godzilla mewtwo

yah da tube thingie, i think its a spinal cordy or just some nerve cluster providing juice to his big psychic brain

now u guys stop praising his mega forms or else mewtwo will shoot u!

 

[babaGAReeb]

looooooooooooooooooooooool

I highly doubt Mewtwo will get a primal devolution since it already has two powerful megas.

you'll see. i'll get game freak 2 give him a primal devolution

heck i'll even get them to give his mega forms primal devolutions

 

[Thursday]

i hate almost all megas, they tend to be exaggerated versions of their base forms and really ridiculous lookin

no mewtwo is beautiful!
even if u dont think mewtwo is beautiful, dem megas r just ugly and stupid looking

I thought that was the point of the megas? They're just powered up forms of the normal Pokemon so I think they should look like exaggerated forms. It would be boring if they didn't.

 

[babaGAReeb]

I thought that was the point of the megas? They're just powered up forms of the normal Pokemon so I think they should look like exaggerated forms. It would be boring if they didn't.

they exaggerated too much for most of em!

quite a few look good like mega garchomp, sceptile, aragon etc

but something like mega manectric... thats just dumb

and wtf is mega slowpoke even?

 

[Pepperton]

I think there will be more Primal forms then Groudon and Kyogre, most probably Primal Rayquaza

but the one who needs a primal form the most is Mewtwo

Mewtwo is the strongest pokemon and it needs a new primal uber form or it will be overshadowed by lesser legendaries

Mewtwo is the first legendary and if it anyone deserves a primal form it is Mewtwo!

Mewtwo's mega forms kinda suck anyway. now is the chance game freak, correct your mistake and give Mewtwo a form worthy of the best pokemon!

maybe its mega forms can get primal forms too. mega primal mewtwo x and mega primal mewtwo y

Hi there, I merged your thread with the existing Primal reversion thread. when creating a thread, make sure to check the section you're posting in so that you don't make a duplicate. Normally, duplicates are locked, but because your thread had a lot of replies, I'm merging it. Also, please refrain from discussing Mega evolutions in this thread - discussion of that goes here.

 

[Thursday]

they exaggerated too much for most of em!

quite a few look good like mega garchomp, sceptile, aragon etc

but something like mega manectric... thats just dumb

and wtf is mega slowpoke even?

Okay, I'll admit Mega Manetric looks funny but I think Mega Slowpoke is suppose to be the Shellder/whatever it is that was on its tail having grown and taken up more of its body. Does it look cool though?