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6th Gen Third Version Speculation

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    I will be so happy if this game is them listening to the fans over the years. Now I know it won't have all the regions or anything but maybe pokemon following you again,good post game and overhaul of the plot. So like no gyms or league. I remember when BW2 was around I thought you would instead fight the 7 sages getting orbs from them to use to unlock Kyurem. The concept may seem like gyms but it would be different. One thing I would love is more difficult puzzles. Like the gym leader puzzles are way too easy.

    I love your ideas =]
    Omg I wonder which game its gonna be.. i LOVE following new games news ( not spin off's tho) <3
     
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    Which reminds me... exactly what kind of game are we gonna get? I don't think we're quite ready to move on to Gen 7 yet, but they wouldn't be making a Pokemon-dedicated Direct for a standard 3rd version "Z" either. The last time we had a Pokemon Direct, it looked at the history of Pokemon and then announced X/Y. Right now, we got the 20th anniversary, Magearna, and Zygarde Formes to play around with.

    I think because of how long it's been since the last main series game release, coupled with the fact that it's the 20th anniversary, they'll make a Direct for whatever it is we get next, even a 3rd version. I mean, XY were your "standard first two entires of the gen" and they got a Direct. They didn't even reveal that Mega Evolution and Fairy-Type were a thing in that Direct. If this is a 3rd version with more Megas, new facilities, etc., they could very well dedicate a Direct to it.
     
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    I love your ideas =]
    Omg I wonder which game its gonna be.. i LOVE following new games news ( not spin off's tho) <3

    Yeah I truly hope the days of 3rd versions are done not just for Pokemon but for all games. The whole GotY edition and definitive editions are kinda going a bit crazy in the past few years. Besides sequels are just more fun. Thing with XY is it could totally get away with sequels out of any of the gens due to to have lots of things unanswered. Like one of the biggest things is where AZ will go since the end of XY did not explain too much. XY left a chunk of unanswered things and in a way Episode Delta did too that could lead into XY2 or something. Plus with enough content for the anniversary it could surpass BW2
     

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  • Yeah I truly hope the days of 3rd versions are done not just for Pokemon but for all games. The whole GotY edition and definitive editions are kinda going a bit crazy in the past few years. Besides sequels are just more fun. Thing with XY is it could totally get away with sequels out of any of the gens due to to have lots of things unanswered. Like one of the biggest things is where AZ will go since the end of XY did not explain too much. XY left a chunk of unanswered things and in a way Episode Delta did too that could lead into XY2 or something. Plus with enough content for the anniversary it could surpass BW2
    I think that GF left the door open to 3rd versions by not doing DLC, not even the free kind (they said they wouldn't like doing paid DLC). If they had DLC then the desire for 3rd versions would vanish.
     
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    I think that GF left the door open to 3rd versions by not doing DLC, not even the free kind (they said they wouldn't like doing paid DLC). If they had DLC then the desire for 3rd versions would vanish.

    That is my point. In a world of DLC 3rd versions are kinda pointless making me wonder if that was one of the reasons to BW2. Platinum was 2008 and I don't think DLC was a big thing or even out till 2009. Of course I can't move this theory just yet. While we got sequels in Gen 5 it is too soon to say. Though if we don't get 3rd versions this gen I think it is safe to say the concept is gone. Though in a way Victini event was in a way DLC if you think about it. Used a code to get an event you could not get normally in BW.
     

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  • That is my point. In a world of DLC 3rd versions are kinda pointless making me wonder if that was one of the reasons to BW2. Platinum was 2008 and I don't think DLC was a big thing or even out till 2009. Of course I can't move this theory just yet. While we got sequels in Gen 5 it is too soon to say. Though if we don't get 3rd versions this gen I think it is safe to say the concept is gone. Though in a way Victini event was in a way DLC if you think about it. Used a code to get an event you could not get normally in BW.
    DS games had no DLC, so even if they wanted to, BW couldn't have any. Looking at it that way Mew would've been DLC, which it's not as it's not downloadable, it more of an unlock. Sadly it seems that GF didn't make XYOrAs with Dlc in mind, especially XY. Maybe to prevent Nintendo from pestering them about it. If they had we would've gotten theOrAs mega stones in XY, or at least the ability to trade them over. People call this patch, but those are to fix glitches. Dlc is more accurate for such an addition.
     
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    You know let's go with it being a 3rd version with lots of stuff for the 20th anniversary like Kalos 6.5 Pokemon O makes a lot of sense over Z since O is the center where XY meet on a graph and it is the center and the middle is the center while the middle of Gen 6 would truly be 6.5. :)

    Though that old rumor about plus and minus is making sense if you want to go with negative and positive numbers on a graph. Maybe for Gen 7? Which is weird since that rumor predicted a hybrid system like the NX is rumored to be.... Interesting.
     

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  • You know let's go with it being a 3rd version with lots of stuff for the 20th anniversary like Kalos 6.5 Pokemon O makes a lot of sense over Z since O is the center where XY meet on a graph and it is the center and the middle is the center while the middle of Gen 6 would truly be 6.5. :)

    Though that old rumor about plus and minus is making sense if you want to go with negative and positive numbers on a graph. Maybe for Gen 7? Which is weird since that rumor predicted a hybrid system like the NX is rumored to be.... Interesting.
    Or 0 (zero). It's possible, but it'll be nice if they used the third axis, seeing how they admited that XY were named after the axis, plus 3D is made up of XYZ. In a way Pokemon XYZ would be a more creative way of calling the Kalos games Pokemon 3D, hey maybe it'll be called that if not Z.
     

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    You know let's go with it being a 3rd version with lots of stuff for the 20th anniversary like Kalos 6.5 Pokemon O makes a lot of sense over Z since O is the center where XY meet on a graph and it is the center and the middle is the center while the middle of Gen 6 would truly be 6.5. :)

    Though that old rumor about plus and minus is making sense if you want to go with negative and positive numbers on a graph. Maybe for Gen 7? Which is weird since that rumor predicted a hybrid system like the NX is rumored to be.... Interesting.

    It's funny you bring this up!

    I was thinking about plus and minus earlier. What if it just showed up in the direct?

    A lot of it's points are interesting and could make for a good 20th anniversary game if touched upon.

    It incorporates things GF wanted, simplifies the battle system, and more. It could feel like a reboot and love letter to the fans because it gives them things they've wanted.

    Plus it's been two years since it first popped up, and barely anyone remembers it.

    If its somehow real, it makes sense that it be on the NX with what we know about it. Perhaps it will launch on Wii U first, then NX?

    Like Twilight Princess did, and zelda U seems to be doing.

    It''s still probably fake, but really funny how a lot of it's info makes sense with what we seen them trying to do today.

    It also could work as a Kalos sequel, if done right and align with the strange souvenir and the statement about how they want the next game after XY to be very different then what we expect.
     
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    Or 0 (zero). It's possible, but it'll be nice if they used the third axis, seeing how they admited that XY were named after the axis, plus 3D is made up of XYZ. In a way Pokemon XYZ would be a more creative way of calling the Kalos games Pokemon 3D, hey maybe it'll be called that if not Z.

    That would make more sense tbh than just Z. Plus even if the plot is not even Zygarde focused but instead maybe Kalos 2.5 that would not hurt the anime compared to if it was Z and was just a 3rd version. Though Pokemon Zero just sounds cool :)

    It's funny you bring this up!

    I was thinking about plus and minus earlier. What if it just showed up in the direct?

    A lot of it's points are interesting and could make for a good 20th anniversary game if touched upon.

    It incorporates things GF wanted, simplifies the battle system, and more. It could feel like a reboot and love letter to the fans because it gives them things they've wanted.

    Plus it's been two years since it first popped up, and barely anyone remembers it.

    If its somehow real, it makes sense that it be on the NX with what we know about it. Perhaps it will launch on Wii U first, then NX?

    Like Twilight Princess did, and zelda U seems to be doing.

    It''s still probably fake, but really funny how a lot of it's info makes sense with what we seen them trying to do today.

    It also could work as a Kalos sequel, if done right and align with the strange souvenir and the statement about how they want the next game after XY to be very different then what we expect.


    Having the new game on Wii U as a sort of transition to NX would be interesting. Would truly be a 20th anniversary game since people have wanted a Pokemon main game for years. If it was a mix of main series mixed with Col/GoD that could be amazing. Also would let GF have a go at doing a main console HD JRPG before going full fledged with Gen 7. Even if NX is part handheld Vita has shown us handhelds can be on par with home console games. Plus it could be like Kingdom Hearts. How the game has home console and handheld games and they are all canon.
     
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  • I will be so happy if this game is them listening to the fans over the years.

    Bleh! I hate it when companies try to listen to the fans, because let's be honest, the fanbase has no clue of what they really wanted, especially on how divisive they can be. Plus it'll show that Game Freak has run out of ideas and are now resorting to only fan ideas for gameplay features. It's how Sonic became a huge mess that it is today. It's things like this is why I hope the third version is Gen 6.5, as well as the NX revealed to be not what the rumors described it to be and how the "fans" wish it would be.
     
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    Bleh! I hate it when companies try to listen to the fans, because let's be honest, the fanbase has no clue of what they really wanted, especially on how divisive they can be. Plus it'll show that Game Freak has run out of ideas and are now resorting to only fan ideas for gameplay features. It's how Sonic became a huge mess that it is today. It's things like this is why I hope the third version is Gen 6.5, as well as the NX revealed to be not what the rumors described it to be and how the "fans" wish it would be.

    Not true at all. At this rate fans could make better games than GF can. GF is true afraid to try new things and that is what Pokemon needs. Fresh concepts. In a way they kinda have run out of ideas since most of the ideas are rinse and repeat at this point. Which is the main reason I hope it is not Pokemon Z. Most fans want a change over the typical 8 badges,evil team and league concept let alone a 3rd version of a sub par story. Sonic only became a mess due to the handling of the games post the 2D era. That and Sonic fans just being very "interesting" people. *Flashback to Magfest 2015* Either way evidence of not just rumors but other things are pointing towards NX being a fusion let alone the fact Miyamoto liked the idea and hinting to it before NX was even announced almost a year ago.
     

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  • Not true at all. At this rate fans could make better games than GF can. GF is true afraid to try new things and that is what Pokemon needs. Fresh concepts. In a way they kinda have run out of ideas since most of the ideas are rinse and repeat at this point. Which is the main reason I hope it is not Pokemon Z. Most fans want a change over the typical 8 badges,evil team and league concept let alone a 3rd version of a sub par story. Sonic only became a mess due to the handling of the games post the 2D era. That and Sonic fans just being very "interesting" people. *Flashback to Magfest 2015* Either way evidence of not just rumors but other things are pointing towards NX being a fusion let alone the fact Miyamoto liked the idea and hinting to it before NX was even announced almost a year ago.

    Taking ideas from fans is never a good thing; ORAS happened because of fan demand, and look how that turned out. Not only does it limit a company's creativity, but there's also the issue of lawsuit if a companies in general, not just Game Freak, ever try to use a fan's idea. You just have to pray that one of their ideas they came up with in-house coincides with a fan's idea to avoid any possible lawsuit. The image I showed you about how the three systems parallel with tablets, smartphones, and PC should tell you that NX may not be a fusion but possibly a PC system, which obviously the mainline Pokémon games won't be moving to (only the 3DS's successor).
     

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  • If the Direct does announce a new game (which is most likely the case), I hope said game will have a far bigger post-story game than what we were given with X/Y & ORAS. Perhaps new features to be introduced? (Like the PWT was to B2&W2 or as the Battle Frontier was to Emerald).
     

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  • I'm hoping for a BF style post game, maybe some new areas are unlocked post game like how we could visit East Unova in BW only after we defeated Ghetsis.

    I'm honestly hoping for something on the scale of visiting a second region (Like G/S/C/HG/SS). There was so much given to us with the inclusion of Kanto that it made the game seem like you only completed a solid 50% of it when you beat the Elite Four for the first time. Then on top of that you're given the challenge to fight Red, which is pretty damn cool. I'm not saying they should add Hoenn (God I would love this though, even though ORAS came out 1 1/2 years ago) or another old region, but just something to that nature that would give us so much more to do. Hopefully they don't throw in a PWT and expect that willl sate most people for an after game, because that honestly felt like something quick and easy to throw in. After all it only felt like the Battle Tower with nostalgia thrown in the mix (In my opinion at least, and I'm not saying they shouldn't re introduce it, just not have it be a main core factor in the after game).
     
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  • I'm not even sure if this would be expecting "too much" but given how similar they made Kalos to Kanto, I think it'd be pretty cool to be able to visit another region for the post game, as a nod to gen 2. I wouldn't be surprised if we were able to revisit Hoenn.
     
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