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I do believe they are in Celedon Cafe in a bin. I think the wild snorlax has it too. Also google the "G/S/C Cloning Glitch" it lets you clone items, its a great help to get more of them.
t-tar can learn icebeam and earthquake from TM.for more detailed info ill give you this celebi site if you havnt allready gone to it www.serebii.net
i dont think any pokes learn both solar or blast naturaly