There's a saying "never argue with an idiot" I never knew what it meant until I visited that Isshu region thread... No offense(and not aimed at you), but all evidence is leaning towards Shanghai right now, but if there was to be some statue of liberty or Isshu's own statue, then it would confirm that it is indeed America. It's a bit stupid just to stand on one side without knowing anything about the other while dismissing the facts.