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Whoa I missed a lot after leaving for four days, hahaha. You guys make this FC really bustling.
@Ultimania
Gah, I hate this decision they made so much, too. I mean, why even bother with a Final Mix and a Secret Ending (which is totally the point of the Final Mix, aside from more BBS goodness) if you're not going to take it seriously? I really wish Nomura was just kidding with his wry laughs and all. D:
@Ven trying to explain the Command Board
That's really funny to visualize, hahaha. Yeah I never had the impression that Ven was good at it judging from the adorably dumb AI.
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I always thought Master Xehanort put a little of himself into Ven's darkness, but who knows, maybe Ven had a really dark past. If MX deed put his seed in Vanitas (Oh God that sounds so wrong) then maybe we'll be seeing him as one of the thirteen darknesses or something. Why does MX remind me so much of Voldemort?
I think Vanitas's darkness is so massive because the abuse MX put Ven through before he split them. :( I haven't played Ven's story as much as the others but while he was "training", wasn't he pretty much mauled by Neoshadows at some point? I imagine all his training was like that and it would probably be really hard to not turn to the darkness with MX yelling at you to do it the whole time. So after the split, the natural darkness he had plus whatever had accumulated during the training, plus any darkness that might creep in from MX when he split them was probably more than enough to make Vanitas (who probably got further training in the dark arts from then on [I shouldn't have used the phrase "dark arts", now I'm considering harry potter AUs augh]). I might be all wrong if I have any of the initial details wrong though, which is possible. xD;
Or this one, I think this is a more correct explanation. XD
@DiZ, Nami, Lea etc.
Yeah I hated DiZ after what he did to Roxas and Namine. I thought he was awesome in CoM but yeah, KHII ruined him. Namine was really one of my favourite characters, she arguably had more development than Kairi. But yeah, I did find it off when she started being this ghostly presence for Roxas and everyone else in KHII.
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Goodness, I just watched that scene Sakura described now and I just wanted to get Sora out of there, gah. And the ending was really awkward but funny all the same. I wish they gave Kairi more of a role in the game, though! D: But yeah, in the ending Sora was still really happy-go-lucky which was odd, but I loved how he appeared when he looked into the distance as he set-off on his own, like he was all grown up like never before or something. And whoa, I just realized how creepy Lea was in that scene.
@Ven x Nami
Lightning's headcanon is pretty darn awesome, haha. And I'd be okay with a Ven x Namine ship because the poor girl seems to have no chance to be with Sora (even though she obviously likes Sora more than she's supposed to judging CoM, yes Namine from KHII is not valid because it doesn't feel right when she's all sweet with Roxas at all), and it would make good history of her finding out about Ventus, Terra and Aqua.
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She knew from the Re:Coded ending remember? I don't think it's just DiZ ordering her to tell Sora as her Data self, I think she actually heard about it from Ven in CO.
@KH3D Final Boss
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I don't understand why the final boss was exactly a letdown when that fight was a complete 180 degree reversal of the Sora vs Riku fight except Ven's fighting style is used but! Sora's still in the armor isn't he? I guess it is Ven. It did look really awesome and epic, not disappointing at all. And Lightning describes it as really awesome.
@Re:Coded and KH soundtrack
I thought Re:Coded was decent for its well-designed gameplay. Just not on-par with the rest of the series. But yeah, that's true the secret ending is basically useless now. And BBS really is a great game, I absolutely loved its Dearly Beloved too (I just listen to it randomly and just feel all dreamy and in the KH mood). Yeah, btw Sakura if you're looking for a final boss theme with the stuff you wanted more in the spoiler, look no further than the soundtrack for Ven's final boss in BBS. Some awesome music right there.
I wonder if FF Versus will have a release date announced at E3. I'm guessing 2021 XD TBH with how things are going I would not be shocked.... It was announced in 2006 right?
I actually want them to just announce either that game or KHIII already since it's taking such a long time for them to release even just a glimpse of the game. And yes it was announced alongside FFXIII, and that makes me wonder, aren't the Osaka teams making FF Versus XIII and KHIII one and the same?
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I actually tried multiple quotes but the post had more quotes than my replies so I made it the way it is now instead. XD
That might signify good news for Versus XIII fans if they're the same team making the game. Work is being done in the game, possibly just in time for E3 2012! Good news for KHIII fans, too, since we'll see the comparable quality that KHIII will be if it's ever released in the same console. I want HD KHIII. :D
Uh-huh. ;_; They said so in the KH3D Ultimania interview. Worst part is they said they have the story all there and everything, they just... aren't doing it?? So I guess it'll be tossed in as random cutscenes through KH3 or something instead, I dunno. I am disappointed.
THIS MAKES ME ANGRY. ANNNNNNNGRY. I MEAN ASDFJKL WHY WOULD YOU MAKE AN ENDING THAT EPIC AND THEN GO "LOLNOBBSVOLUME2FORYOU" graaaaaah.
Thank you~ xD; I imagine they'd just make up rules as they went along when Ven wouldn't remember something, to the CB they play is probably waaaay different from the one we play in BBS.
Gaaaah I'm still getting mental images of Flustered!Ven and it is killing my heart KILLING IT I SAY -dies-
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I think Vanitas's darkness is so massive because the abuse MX put Ven through before he split them. :( I haven't played Ven's story as much as the others but while he was "training", wasn't he pretty much mauled by Neoshadows at some point? I imagine all his training was like that and it would probably be really hard to not turn to the darkness with MX yelling at you to do it the whole time. So after the split, the natural darkness he had plus whatever had accumulated during the training, plus any darkness that might creep in from MX when he split them was probably more than enough to make Vanitas (who probably got further training in the dark arts from then on [I shouldn't have used the phrase "dark arts", now I'm considering harry potter AUs augh]). I might be all wrong if I have any of the initial details wrong though, which is possible. xD;
How dare you yell at Ven, MX I will break your nose and arms and ribs and whatever else occurs to me. And yeah, he wouldn't fight the Neoshadows and they all jumped on him and knocked him out and this is when the cutscene we discussed earlier takes place (Creation of Vanitas, blank-eyes Ven) and ICK OLD MAN DARKNESS SDLFKSDFJL. and now I'm sort of wondering if Vanitas is going to be one of the new Nortys, asdfjkl. I don't see how this could happen unless Vanitas is somehow separated from Ven, though.ohgod you shouldn't have DON'T MIX THE TWO TOGETHER IT ONLY COMPLICATES MATTERS
He was horrible to Namine. I mean, she gets out of Marluxia's grasp and you think "oh, everything's going to be okay now" and then DiZ is just as bad. ;_; She's doing her best to fix Sora and he's bossing her around, telling her how much she doesn't matter, and telling her to go faster. I mean, I'm kind of a hypocrite because Marluxia's my favourite so I never had a problem with his abuse (well, not that I didn't have a problem, I just... like it as part of his character I DON'T KNOW) but at least she had someone to save her there. ;~; But there, Namine and Riku both knew that they needed DiZ's protection while they fixed Sora or the Organization would probably cause problems so there was nothing they could do and alkdjs. Poor Namine. I didn't like her as much in KH2 because she became so all-knowing which was kind of annoying (since she also never tells anyone anything 8|) and I hated that they tried to make everyone ship Roxas/Namine for pretty much no reason at all (I still don't understand it). On the whole, I really like her though. I like pretty much everyone. Except Riku. Although even that changed sliiightly after 3D.
Ohgod he was. I was going "CHILD ABUSE! CHILD ABUSE! CALL CHILDREN'S SERVICES PLEASE" but yeah. Marluxia sort of did the same thing but he's a bad guy I guess it is part of his character to be sadistic and mean and yeah so it's amazing that someone who is apparently a "good guy" would treat someone like that. jesus. Diz I am disappoint.
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and wasn't Data-Namine all-knowing as well? Like she knew about Xion and the BbS trio, didn't she? I like Riku, except in KHI, for obvious reasons. He's angsty in CoM/Days all the way up to the end of KHII but I think he really improved in Dream Drop Distance so I was proud of him okay
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Oh man, I kind of feel like KH3D is practically just one big Riku/Sora fanfic. Which sucks because I've never shipped them. XD; As soon as Riku wakes up at the end after saving Sora, Sora tackle-hugs him and pretty much doesn't let go until Yen Sid calls them over to announce the results of the Mastery exam. 8| Then the sheer trust between them in pretty much every scene where they have to talk/think about one another... yeah. It's gonna make a loooooot of fangirls happy.
You're right though, Lea's always been a creeper. xD; It shouldn't have surprised me.
I often call both KH3D and Re:coded "Soriku: The Game". Because they both really are lol. And that hug that hug I was loling so hard and then there was the part where Riku was trying to wake Sora up and he grabbed his hand and Sora heard Riku in his dream and I was like "I CAN HEAR THE CRIES OF THE FANGIRLS" and I sort of started shipping them after KH3D please don't judge me I COULDN'T HELP IT XD;
Yep, creeper is Lea's default state of being XD
I am thinking that this fanfic needs to be linked to me asap. :( It's funny, 'cause the first few times I'd come across all the Ven/Namine fanart on Tumblr, my roommate and I were just like "WTF". Then a few days later I got that image of her talking to him in C.O. or whatever and my roommate was so ashamed of me when I had to admit that I shipped it. XD; I mean, not that he was surprised because I ship everything but I usually have a reason slightly better than "I imagined them in the same room." Usually.
Here you go, dear~ I really really like it, it's fluffy and it makes my heart go doki doki so it's legit XD and now I'm off to Tumblr to FIND ALL THE VEN/NAMI FANART WHEEEEE~ don't worry hun I ship everything too as of KH3D lol
Also true!
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Maaan I suck at action images but that is one of the things I wanted to draw. n_n Honestly, the Armour fight was kind of a let down because it was super easy. (Sora sucks at fighting backhand, I guess. XD) I think it took me two tries whereas YMX took like 15. I liked the YMX one more since I fought MF sooo many times in BBS and got so familiar with the music T because Terra SUCKS at dodging so I probably spent like 6 hours listening to that BGM trying to beat him with Terra and hearing that remixed, finding out who MF was, and fighting a harder version of him was exhilarating and few things have matched that feeling for me in the KH series.
Plus, as I said, the whole time I was fighting the Armour I was just pissed off because it felt so tacked-on and I knew they were gonna have to give me one damn good reason Ven had turned evil in Sora's heart. But it wasn't a bad fight at all. He definitely uses Ven's attacks and while I never used Ven a whole lot in BBS compared to the others (Terra I had to use more because he sucks and I did completion on Normal for him, so I had to play through again and Aqua's my favourite so I have like a million files for her 8D), I still recognized his attacks instantly. So it was really cool fighting him like that. It felt a lot like the end of Terra's story in BBS after MX takes over his body and you fight him as Terra's Armour. It felt more like fighting Terra than MX because he was using Terra's fighting style, shot locks, command finishers, etc. That's kind of what this is like. (So now I'm just waiting for a dark!Aqua fight somehow. Although the premise of that sounds really depressing, like she finally gave into the darkness or something, so now maybe I don't want it. XD)
Oh, and I'm pretty sure Ven'sArmor!Sora used shotlocks too. :D That was pretty exciting, I'm not gonna lie.
Well, considering my INTENSE HATRED for anything Xehanort-related and my love and feels for Ven, I would probably like Ven'sArmor!Sora more, entirely because it's Ven's armor XD. On the other hand, though, DAT DARK IMPETUS REMIX. WORDS CANNOT EXPRESS MY LOVE FOR THOSE STRINGS asdfjkl. and I suppose they didn't want to put two tough bosses right in a row, so they toned down Ven'sArmor!Sora a bit (lol poor Sora doesn't know how to fight backhand XD) So since Ven is obviously my favorite and I have over 9000 files for him, I will definitely recognize his attacks? Because as I've previously mentioned, low quality cutscenes are the devil and I really couldn't see what he was doing D8 NOOOOOOO AQUA WILL NEVER GIVE IN TO DARKNESS. Maybe a possessed!Aqua fight? Aquanort?XEHANORTTTTTTTTT D:<
Well, I still can't fault you there. People have asked me why I don't just sell my copy of Re:Coded if I hate it so much--since I could've gotten a decent price for it back when it first came out--and I looked at them like they were insane. Have an incomplete KH collection? Are they crazy? (I am now coming to the realization though that if I don't buy 3DS in English--despite not even having an English 3DS--I won't own all the games in English. x_o DILEMMA. Maybe I should buy it and play it on my roommate's 3DS when he's done with the game.)
Yesssss this is entirely me. MUST HAVE COMPLETE COLLECTION. (...I am going to assume getting an english 3DS is out of the question? in that case yeah I would just borrow it from someone else. Butbut then you won't own it for yourself and asdfjkl THAT CAN'T HAPPEN DX)
Also the ending of BBS is mostly spoilt by its trailer, so that can't be much of a complaint. (I mean, we don't get details but just from the trailer and the fact that it's a prequel and we've never seen the characters before kind of confirmed that nothing good came of the ending. ;~;)
BbS was one gigantic cry/rage/bawl-fest. This is the complete and undeniable truth. ;__________________;
The Dearly Beloveds get steadily better until BBS. KH1's is very simple, COM adds a few more notes in, KH2 improves it again, Re:COM was another improvement, and then I thought nothing could top Days' version and then BBS was like "OH YEAH? HAVE SOME VIOLINS" and I died. ;~; I love it so, so much. So I was really excited for Re:Coded's version of it expecting the trend to continue and it was just like "nope, have a boring one". O-oh. Okay. But 3DS's is probably my second favourite just because it's something new and it's still very pretty.
I think Re:coded's is supposed to resemble KHI's. For some reason. Even though it's set long after KHI. It just reminded me of KHI's okay ;_; and yeah the BbS version and Days version and 3D version are all the best but BbS is the super best asdfjkl
It's hard for me to pick a favourite boss fight music from 3D. I like all of them so much. ;~;
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Xemnas's new one is great, even Ansem's brings something new to the theme which has been in like every KH since the first one. xD; YMX's is probably my favourite if I had to pick one but I also really love Armor!Sora's because of all the themes it ties into the Dive to Heart music.
Xemnas' is fantastic, and the boss music from the Tron:Legacy world is spectacular but all of them need moar Ven's Theme or at least Ven'sArmor!Sora does because I mean come on humor the Ven fangirl just a bit please ;_;
Whoa I missed a lot after leaving for four days, hahaha. You guys make this FC really bustling.
most of mine and Lightning's posts are Ven fangirling, pay us no mind dear XD
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Goodness, I just watched that scene Sakura described now and I just wanted to get Sora out of there, gah. And the ending was really awkward but funny all the same. I wish they gave Kairi more of a role in the game, though! D: But yeah, in the ending Sora was still really happy-go-lucky which was odd, but I loved how he appeared when he looked into the distance as he set-off on his own, like he was all grown up like never before or something. And whoa, I just realized how creepy Lea was in that scene.
ohgod i know right? YMX is every bit as creepy as MX, kljfslkfj. I was hoping Riku or Mickey would come swooping in out of nowhere to save the day but no. YMX just goes "Goodnight, Sora." And I was like LKSDJ:FSDLFJSDLKGHSDLKFJSDLK XEHANORTTTTTTTTTTT and I think the secret ending had Kairi in it she apparently is going to be training to use the keyblade under Master Yen Sid! apparently. who knows if nomura will go through with it, lol. I REPEAT: Creeper!Lea is the only Lea. XD
To many spoilers Im going to play these games now so cant just spoil myself with you two fangirling!
Sakura/everyone what would you (guys) think of a Kingdom Hearts movie?
Lightning already agreed it would be amazing but you are the other fangirl. Also do you (guys) think its got a good possibility of happening considering the disney partnering of KH??
most of mine and Lightning's posts are Ven fangirling, pay us no mind dear XD
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ohgod i know right? YMX is every bit as creepy as MX, kljfslkfj. I was hoping Riku or Mickey would come swooping in out of nowhere to save the day but no. YMX just goes "Goodnight, Sora." And I was like LKSDJ:FSDLFJSDLKGHSDLKFJSDLK XEHANORTTTTTTTTTTT and I think the secret ending had Kairi in it she apparently is going to be training to use the keyblade under Master Yen Sid! apparently. who knows if nomura will go through with it, lol. I REPEAT: Creeper!Lea is the only Lea. XD
Heh I don't mind that much. I've posted a fair share of walls of text myself.
So yeah, just continue on fangirling, this is the SE Fan Club after all. They act as pretty interesting reads, too.
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Both MX incarnations are creepy in their own ways, Geezernort from being a geezer and messing with young childrens' heads, and YMX from all that time travel and mindblowing illusions. Yeah I was expecting someone to show up and save him, too, but at least Ven attempted to save him before he completely fell into darkness. Yes, that secret ending actually gave me hope for Kairi even though I was convinced back then that giving her a Keyblade was a weird idea. But I'm okay with it now. Creeper Lea, haha. And you'd think he already had enough from being with Roxas and Xion during Days.
To many spoilers Im going to play these games now so cant just spoil myself with you two fangirling!
Sakura/everyone what would you (guys) think of a Kingdom Hearts movie?
Lightning already agreed it would be amazing but you are the other fangirl. Also do you (guys) think its got a good possibility of happening considering the disney partnering of KH??
It'd be really great if you finally get to play the games, haha.
A Kingdom Hearts movie a la Advent Children would actually be pretty awesome, but as far as chances go, there's only a slim chance of it actually happening. Sure Disney helping out Square-Enix would be a plus but it's going to be quite a high-budget movie, getting together all these stars to voice a full hour-length movie would prove to be quite a daunting task for them. I don't think KH has enough of an audience for their standards, either. I wish they'd still think of turning this idea into a reality though! It would just change my life.
It'd be really great if you finally get to play the games, haha.
A Kingdom Hearts movie a la Advent Children would actually be pretty awesome, but as far as chances go, there's only a slim chance of it actually happening. Sure Disney helping out Square-Enix would be a plus but it's going to be quite a high-budget movie, getting together all these stars to voice a full hour-length movie would prove to be quite a daunting task for them. I don't think KH has enough of an audience for their standards, either. I wish they'd still think of turning this idea into a reality though! It would just change my life.
Im getting around to it! I just gotta find me a PSP or a way to play PSP games >.>
Ugh all the spoilers make me want to read them but i dont want to ruin the games anymore then i have!
1 hour please it would have to be at least 2 xD. Kingdom hearts Advent Children style would be amazing! And I really don't think it'd cost all THAT much in all honesty..
Im also sure it'd make a bunch of money with people buying it! Probably even fairly profitable I'd say. I'd buy it for sure.
Im getting around to it! I just gotta find me a PSP or a way to play PSP games >.>
Ugh all the spoilers make me want to read them but i dont want to ruin the games anymore then i have!
1 hour please it would have to be at least 2 xD. Kingdom hearts Advent Children style would be amazing! And I really don't think it'd cost all THAT much in all honesty..
Im also sure it'd make a bunch of money with people buying it! Probably even fairly profitable I'd say. I'd buy it for sure.
Ah, that's hard. For the most part, getting the system was the most difficult part of playing the series. I had to help my brother save up money so we could both play. So much worth it, though.
Hey, don't worry. I'll try to lessen the spoilers and the tags of the same name from now on. I apologize for being part of filling the posts with them, though, but you'd expect it to be hard to get away from spoilers in a fan club.
Yeah, I actually meant to say full hours-length movie but it sounded weird. Hahaha. But yes it would be nothing short of spectacular, and they better make the numbered games on par with FFXIII in the graphics department. They have well-known English voice actors for the job. Not to mention the pay for each and every person on the team who would render all the cutscenes, the technology and equipment they'll need, the right marketing, the money they'll give the higher-ups from both Disney and SE, and a huge wad of cash for Nomura.
I actually don't know how movies like that can be made profitable. I'm thinking Advent Children did it but the huge fanbase played a large role on that. I must include here that I'll definitely buy the KH movie if it ever gets made, too. Or watch it if it airs in theaters.
I was a member of the last KH SE FC and yeah, Saku-chan told me about there being a new one~ May I please partake in discussions/fangirling/ avoidance of spoilers pertaining to Dream Drop Distance? Which I need a 3DS for
I'm gonna start marking my spoilers with what's spoilered since they aren't even all KH3D spoilers by this point so there are some parts of conversation that other people can jump into as well.
Also... KH is kind of taking over the general S-E thread and I feel like that must be alienating people. :( It's mainly just that 3D is out and we're speculating but it's not like other S-E games haven't been coming out too. Is this tolerable for everyone or should we maybe be looking at splitting up the club back into FF and KH separately? /flinging idea
@Ultimania
Gah, I hate this decision they made so much, too. I mean, why even bother with a Final Mix and a Secret Ending (which is totally the point of the Final Mix, aside from more BBS goodness) if you're not going to take it seriously? I really wish Nomura was just kidding with his wry laughs and all. D:
The laughs are always what get me, haha. ;_; I know it's just to make it loose and not so serious sounding but it also sounds like he's just brushing it off, aww.
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I always thought Master Xehanort put a little of himself into Ven's darkness, but who knows, maybe Ven had a really dark past. If MX deed put his seed in Vanitas (Oh God that sounds so wrong) then maybe we'll be seeing him as one of the thirteen darknesses or something. Why does MX remind me so much of Voldemort?
I'm pretty sure Vanitas will be one of the 13 Darknesses somehow. I mean, he pretty much literally is darkness and I can't see MX passing him up. Who knows, maybe we'll find out that MK managed to extract Vanitas from Sora (assuming Vanitas became a part of him too? I was under the assumption he did) while Sora was asleep in his grasp so he could show up again.
And he reminds you of Voldemort because YMX almost literally splits off his soul every time he does that time travel thing and there are like 20 versions of him right now that just won't die. XD;
@DiZ, Nami, Lea etc.
Yeah I hated DiZ after what he did to Roxas and Namine. I thought he was awesome in CoM but yeah, KHII ruined him. Namine was really one of my favourite characters, she arguably had more development than Kairi. But yeah, I did find it off when she started being this ghostly presence for Roxas and everyone else in KHII.
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Goodness, I just watched that scene Sakura described now and I just wanted to get Sora out of there, gah. And the ending was really awkward but funny all the same. I wish they gave Kairi more of a role in the game, though! D: But yeah, in the ending Sora was still really happy-go-lucky which was odd, but I loved how he appeared when he looked into the distance as he set-off on his own, like he was all grown up like never before or something. And whoa, I just realized how creepy Lea was in that scene.
Namine just had more to do in the games than Kairi, so she got more development by default. :( It kinda sucks since I like Kairi a lot too but spoilers for: KH3D
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Hopefully she'll get something to do in KH3! Now that I think about it, maybe they only tossed her in as a Keyblade Wielder so that they could use her as the tutorial or something. XD; Still okay with it!
Yeah, Lea's creepy very nearly overpowered Sora's weirdness in that scene. @_@ It's a really strange ending, lmao. I would hate to wake up to that! Poor Riku.
@Ven x Nami
Lightning's headcanon is pretty darn awesome, haha. And I'd be okay with a Ven x Namine ship because the poor girl seems to have no chance to be with Sora (even though she obviously likes Sora more than she's supposed to judging CoM, yes Namine from KHII is not valid because it doesn't feel right when she's all sweet with Roxas at all), and it would make good history of her finding out about Ventus, Terra and Aqua.
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She knew from the Re:Coded ending remember? I don't think it's just DiZ ordering her to tell Sora as her Data self, I think she actually heard about it from Ven in CO.
I would've been fine with Roxas/Namine if they'd done something with them in Days. They had the chance to make it so they met somehow and it would help explain why they suddenly decide to be friends at the end of KH2 and it'd explain their connection but they didn't do that so they had no connection which is why it was disappointing. :(
spoilers for: re:coded, BBS
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This is true! I know she had to have found something about TAV locked away in Sora's heart. It would be kind of adorable if she found out from Ven. Although, if that's the case, how'd she know about Terra and Aqua? o_O; Their fates were decied after Ven fell asleep, mostly. Ven might have some idea that Aqua saved him and set him to rest in what became C.O. but it was after she left him that she found Terranort and fell into the Darkness trying to save him. Hmm.
She supposedly has power over people who are close to Sora, too, so maybe the original trio counted with that? She was able to erase the memory/idea of Sora from mostly everyone's head until Sora came back, right? Maybe that extended to absolutely everyone who'd come in contact with him. I think Aqua considered passing on the Keyblade to Sora for a moment until she realized that Terra had already done that to Riku so maybe that left enough of an impression that Namine had access to her heart/memories and could piece things together from there? But then you'd think she (and DiZ?) would have tried to get that message across in a better way than just hacking extra data into Jiminy's paper-journal. (Square-Enix, I don't think diaries work the way you think they work.) Instead they left a cryptic message on the last page that explains nothing and the true meaning was only found after making data!Sora play through a crappy game. >:O
Then again, BBS just added all sorts of plotholes-that-when-you-thing-about-them-makes-everyone-seem-like-a-jerk. 'Cause Mickey and Yen Sid would've known all about TAV too, and they never said a thing about them to Sora/Riku, lmao. ;_;
@KH3D Final Boss
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I don't understand why the final boss was exactly a letdown when that fight was a complete 180 degree reversal of the Sora vs Riku fight except Ven's fighting style is used but! Sora's still in the armor isn't he? I guess it is Ven. It did look really awesome and epic, not disappointing at all. And Lightning describes it as really awesome.
spoilers for: 3DS. like. massive spoilers. all the end-game bosses. XD
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It's hard to describe until you play it.
As with most KH games, once you hit the last world, everything starts going crazy and plot lines you didn't even know were a thing start wrapping up and the inevitable "WTF IS GOING ON???" begins. Sora wanders through the City That Never Was and has to take on Xemnas. Right after the fight, they drop him off to sleep "for good" and it's all up to Riku. Riku starts off in the Castle That Never Was and fights his way up it and takes on Ansem, only to find out that he was in Sora's dream the whole time. (I think this was how that part went?) From there, he wakes up back in the City That Never Was an has to make his way to the Castle again. Once he gets there, Sora's about to be turned into a mindless puppet of darkness. Riku has to put an end to YMX before MX can revive and do the deed. There, you get the awesome YMX/MF fight with time travel and series throwbacks and it's just epic. The scene after it has all the epic that a closing scene in KH should, too. Sora's about to die, Lea shows up and saves the day, and it's Riku and Mickey and Lea and Donald and Goofy against the bad guys and you're sitting there going "WOW THIS IS A REALLY SATISFYING ENDING". The YMX fight is pretty tough and frustrating (as was the Ansem fight for me, haha, my Riku was so underlevelled ;_;) so now you're just glad it's over so you can watch the ending go by.
...and then it's not over. You get out of there and Sora's still sleeping. So Riku has to dive into him to wake him up and... wait. W-why are we fighting Ven? Why is he controlled by darkness? DID SOMETHING HAPPEN TO HIM? NO. BAD. BAD SERIES. The fight isn't too difficult but it's not exactly a walk in the park either. :( It just felt very out of place. I look back on it now and like the idea of it, and I feel it was appropriate story-wise and all, but gameplay-wise it was kind of anti-climatic and tacked on. So that's where all the complaints come from, I think. It just... after the epicness of the fights up to this point, it sort of made all of them lose a bit of importance just because there were so many. Or something.
@Re:Coded and KH soundtrack
I thought Re:Coded was decent for its well-designed gameplay. Just not on-par with the rest of the series. But yeah, that's true the secret ending is basically useless now. And BBS really is a great game, I absolutely loved its Dearly Beloved too (I just listen to it randomly and just feel all dreamy and in the KH mood). Yeah, btw Sakura if you're looking for a final boss theme with the stuff you wanted more in the spoiler, look no further than the soundtrack for Ven's final boss in BBS. Some awesome music right there.
I actually want them to just announce either that game or KHIII already since it's taking such a long time for them to release even just a glimpse of the game. And yes it was announced alongside FFXIII, and that makes me wonder, aren't the Osaka teams making FF Versus XIII and KHIII one and the same?
Really? I... I didn't think Re:Coded had good gameplay at all. XD; They took the command system from BBS so I went in expecting great things but it didn't port very well to the DS and I found the controls difficult and I just... I dunno. I wasn't very good at it, and I just chalked it up to bad controls/gameplay because I'm never not good at a KH game. But I also pretty much advised all my friends to not bother with the game unless they "needed" to play it, so I don't really know anyone who could confirm my assumption. XD; That game made me so worried about KH3D because it uses the command system too but they made it all better for 3D.
But yeah, you are literally the only person I know who actually liked (and not just "tolerated" Re:Coded). XD;
I think the Osaka team is the BBS team which did 3D and is probably working on other stuff. They've renamed all the teams since they started work on FF13VS so I don't even know what's up anymore, but I know whichever team previously worked on KH is working exclusively on VS now. So one would think they'd be the same team.
I think Osaka might be mostly handheld games? Honestly, though, if they'd just get a freakin' move on with KH and let the Osaka team handle the numbered sequel, I'd be absolutely okay with it. >:|
I actually tried multiple quotes but the post had more quotes than my replies so I made it the way it is now instead. XD
"Ven, I thought you were supposed to get all the colours before going back to start. You're missing green though..."
"Uhhhh there's this... special rule, where if you go Red, Blue and Yellow in that order, you don't have to go get Green. You just get... uhhhh... less points. Yeah."
spoilers for: uhh... Days and BBS
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...and since everyone in Sora's heart is gullible as heck, they would all nod, think it made lots of sense, and that would be the new rule.
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How dare you yell at Ven, MX I will break your nose and arms and ribs and whatever else occurs to me. And yeah, he wouldn't fight the Neoshadows and they all jumped on him and knocked him out and this is when the cutscene we discussed earlier takes place (Creation of Vanitas, blank-eyes Ven) and ICK OLD MAN DARKNESS SDLFKSDFJL. and now I'm sort of wondering if Vanitas is going to be one of the new Nortys, asdfjkl. I don't see how this could happen unless Vanitas is somehow separated from Ven, though.ohgod you shouldn't have DON'T MIX THE TWO TOGETHER IT ONLY COMPLICATES MATTERS
Don't forget that he also took off Ven's shirt around the time of blank-eyes Ven when he went to go dump him in Destiny Islands! :D I... I still never did figure out why that was necessary. (And I often forget about it because if you select a new game and skip the tutorial, I think it skips that scene too. Nooothing can top the sheer confusion when I started up the game for the first time and suddenly there was an Organization member with a shirtless dead-looking Roxas in DI. It was so WTF-worthy.)
Ohgod he was. I was going "CHILD ABUSE! CHILD ABUSE! CALL CHILDREN'S SERVICES PLEASE" but yeah. Marluxia sort of did the same thing but he's a bad guy I guess it is part of his character to be sadistic and mean and yeah so it's amazing that someone who is apparently a "good guy" would treat someone like that. jesus. Diz I am disappoint.
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and wasn't Data-Namine all-knowing as well? Like she knew about Xion and the BbS trio, didn't she? I like Riku, except in KHI, for obvious reasons. He's angsty in CoM/Days all the way up to the end of KHII but I think he really improved in Dream Drop Distance so I was proud of him okay
Marluxia had no heart and I'm of the opinion he didn't try very hard to get it back or pretend he did have one or anything like that. So when he was using Namine, he didn't feel bad or good about it, he just used her like a tool because she was the easiest way to get what he wanted. That's not okay, but DiZ had a heart and feelings and would have had to look at Namine every time he gave her orders and go "oh wow, I am abusing this girl who looks younger than 14; but if I remind myself she has no heart, it's TOTALLY OKAY." So I think that makes it a lot worse. (Honestly, in my last post, I think I completely forgot about the fact that Marluxia had no heart when I was trying to justify why I didn't mind his actions but hated DiZ's. Wooow. /fail XD)
spoilers for: KH3D
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I mean, to be fair, 3D kind of steps all over the original definition of a Nobody so they kind of built up hearts in the end anyway but I still feel like Marluxia never bothered making connections to people and doing the whole "caring" thing to get one.
Anyway! Yeah I hated Riku in KH1, didn't like him in COM (probably for his horrible gameplay--MAKE YOUR OWN DECK, CHILD, STOP USING RANDOM CARDS), and thought he was an idiot in KH2. As a rule, I really do not like angsty characters, so he's always just bugged me. I... I warmed up to him a lot in KH3D, though. :( He wasn't angsty and he was legitimately making up for his mistakes and he succeeded and went above and beyond in capability and...
...>_<; By the end of it, I think I didn't mind him much at all. I mean, he'll still probably never be anywhere near my favourite characters list, but I got a lot of development at the end of KH2 to now and he's become a lot more likeable. (Guys this is kind of a big step for me, to admit that I don't hate Riku anymore. Wow.)
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I often call both KH3D and Re:coded "Soriku: The Game". Because they both really are lol. And that hug that hug I was loling so hard and then there was the part where Riku was trying to wake Sora up and he grabbed his hand and Sora heard Riku in his dream and I was like "I CAN HEAR THE CRIES OF THE FANGIRLS" and I sort of started shipping them after KH3D please don't judge me I COULDN'T HELP IT XD;
Y-yeah. I can see that. (Although omg I don't even remember Riku in Re:Coded LMAO. I was listing the games I disliked him in above and went "wait, wasn't he in Re:Coded? But I only remember Sora. Oh well.") Pretty much any time something happened in either Sora or Riku's worlds during the game that affected the other person's version, they'd get all dreamy-eyed and look up toward the heavens with trust and joy and friendship in their eyes and I was just like "omg stop that please". XD; I didn't come out of the game shipping it, but I guess coming out of the game not hating Riku was a big enough step for me! Maybe by the next one. :P
Here you go, dear~ I really really like it, it's fluffy and it makes my heart go doki doki so it's legit XD and now I'm off to Tumblr to FIND ALL THE VEN/NAMI FANART WHEEEEE~ don't worry hun I ship everything too as of KH3D lol
"No you're not! Everyone's a somebody. His tone turned indignant, as if he was insulted by how little she thought of herself." OH MY GOD. ;_; HE WOULD. HE WOULD BE LIKE IN TEARS AND THEN THINK SOMEONE ELSE WAS SAD AND JUMP TO COMFORT THEM. dying. i definitely ship this now. so hard. (And then later "Call me Ven!"... that's our wifi password in this house hahaha. XD;)
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Well, considering my INTENSE HATRED for anything Xehanort-related and my love and feels for Ven, I would probably like Ven'sArmor!Sora more, entirely because it's Ven's armor XD. On the other hand, though, DAT DARK IMPETUS REMIX. WORDS CANNOT EXPRESS MY LOVE FOR THOSE STRINGS asdfjkl. and I suppose they didn't want to put two tough bosses right in a row, so they toned down Ven'sArmor!Sora a bit (lol poor Sora doesn't know how to fight backhand XD) So since Ven is obviously my favorite and I have over 9000 files for him, I will definitely recognize his attacks? Because as I've previously mentioned, low quality cutscenes are the devil and I really couldn't see what he was doing D8 NOOOOOOO AQUA WILL NEVER GIVE IN TO DARKNESS. Maybe a possessed!Aqua fight? Aquanort?XEHANORTTTTTTTTT D:<
You will definitely recognize his attacks, I think. XD; If I could pick them out here and there with minimal Ven playtime, you will be able to.
To be fair, she considered it for a moment until Terra and Ven were somehow like "NOPE, TACKY FRIENDSHIP GESTURE" with their keyblades. XD; I think I'd be equally sad with a posessed!Aqua though. Maybe MX will make use of her armour which should still be in the Chamber of Repose? It's obvious by now that the Keyblade Armour definitely retains a fair bit of the fighting patterns of the people who used it, even if they aren't there. (Terra's Armour was still able to fight Sora in KH2FM, presumably, long after Terranort disappeared from the area.) So if it could be reanimated, it could definitely show up as a boss fight or something. I kind of want this to happen now. :D That would be so fun.
Yesssss this is entirely me. MUST HAVE COMPLETE COLLECTION. (...I am going to assume getting an english 3DS is out of the question? in that case yeah I would just borrow it from someone else. Butbut then you won't own it for yourself and asdfjkl THAT CAN'T HAPPEN DX)
...well. The Japanese one was like $300. x_X; I don't think I can justify getting an English one at all this year. I also don't mind just playing the Japanese version of KH3D. I can always pick up the English one sometime way down the road when it's on sale and my roommates are long done with the 3DS. I'm really hoping what little interactivity there is in 3D works between JP and English this time, but I somewhat doubt that since Days and BBS never played nice together between languages. ;_;' So I guess I'd be missing out on that sort of thing if I don't buy my own console but... not any time soon.
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Xemnas' is fantastic, and the boss music from the Tron:Legacy world is spectacular but all of them need moar Ven's Theme or at least Ven'sArmor!Sora does because I mean come on humor the Ven fangirl just a bit please ;_;
Omg, I'd forgotten about the boss music from Tron. Seriously, I set down the 3DS when the Sora vs Tron fight started and just listened to it and I've only done that a few times in the series. (I did it again later in the game during the normal battle music of TWTNW. Maaan Deep Dive is AWESOME. *u* It mixes up all the Organization themes with the original Deep Drive track. It's probably my second-favourite song on the OST after the Impetus remixes.
Sorry 'bout that. 8D I usually contain myself. (God I'm like halfway through this post and it's taken me an hour or more to write. We should probably slow down a bit. XD)
H-hopefully the spoilers are fairly well contained. Looks like we've started tossing anything important after KH2 in spoiler tags so hopefully that should do it? :D
Sakura/everyone what would you (guys) think of a Kingdom Hearts movie?
Lightning already agreed it would be amazing but you are the other fangirl. Also do you (guys) think its got a good possibility of happening considering the disney partnering of KH??
I'm pretty sure this has come up in an interview before, now that I think about it. The consensus might have been that Nomura was somewhat interested but Disney didn't seem overly interested? :( I should see if I can look this up. I'd like it if only because it's more canon for me to absorb, but I think I'd also feel a bit gypped if there were awesome fight scenes in it or something and I couldn't be doing them myself. XD;
Heh I don't mind that much. I've posted a fair share of walls of text myself.
So yeah, just continue on fangirling, this is the SE Fan Club after all. They act as pretty interesting reads, too.
I like the walls of text! It's so much fun to discuss this kind of thing and my roommates are gone for the summer and my brother hasn't played anything after KH2 so I need somewhere to vent my theories and speculation. 83
I'm glad. I've been a little worried that I'm just rambling and everyone's rolling their eyes and putting up with me because red-name, lmfao. 8(
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Both MX incarnations are creepy in their own ways, Geezernort from being a geezer and messing with young childrens' heads, and YMX from all that time travel and mindblowing illusions. Yeah I was expecting someone to show up and save him, too, but at least Ven attempted to save him before he completely fell into darkness. Yes, that secret ending actually gave me hope for Kairi even though I was convinced back then that giving her a Keyblade was a weird idea. But I'm okay with it now. Creeper Lea, haha. And you'd think he already had enough from being with Roxas and Xion during Days.
At the point where Sora's in danger, I don't think anyone but Riku even knew where he was, really. YMX & Co kept everything so under wraps until the very end that I was a little impressed that Mickey and everyone even managed to show up in time for anything at all.
Lea will never be satisfied until he has creeped all the children Keyblade users. Ven will wake up from his slumber--BAM. Lea, standing over him. Aqua will find her way out of the darkness--BAM. Lea, standing in the corner & watching her. ALWAYS.
A Kingdom Hearts movie a la Advent Children would actually be pretty awesome, but as far as chances go, there's only a slim chance of it actually happening. Sure Disney helping out Square-Enix would be a plus but it's going to be quite a high-budget movie, getting together all these stars to voice a full hour-length movie would prove to be quite a daunting task for them. I don't think KH has enough of an audience for their standards, either. I wish they'd still think of turning this idea into a reality though! It would just change my life.
I don't think voice actors would really be difficult to get. Disney is kind of ace at that, honestly. Most of the people they hire (I say most because WTF Terra and Aqua's voices in English [I've already ranted about this to Sakura in VMs today xD]) are pretty well known in the industry or they've been doing acting and voice acting for Disney for ages in some way. :B If you think about it, pulling together all the voices from the cutscenes throughout a game give you something like 6 hours, so an hour or two would be nothing. XD;
I think the difficult part would be coming up with a release that didn't make the Disney execs nervous. I heard the reason Mickey was only in one or two scenes in KH1 was because they didn't want the game to be a cash crab that only wanted to use Mickey's fame to get people to play it. (Mickey wasn't allowed to be used in TV commercials for it or anything for that reason, either.) But games are fairly different from films/DVDs. :x Disney makes a lot of lame spinoffs in the direct-to-DVD market and making something KH-based would probably have some Disney characters in it meaning random parents would probably buy it just seeing the characters and the Disney logo so... they'd have to be a lot more careful with how it was presented than they would be for a game. I think.
Ah, that's hard. For the most part, getting the system was the most difficult part of playing the series. I had to help my brother save up money so we could both play. So much worth it, though.
I got my PSP a few years before BBS came out, so I could play Crisis Core, but the main reason I got one in advance was for BBS. If BBS had never come out, I probably wouldn't have bothered with the PSP. (I have quite a few friends who bought their PSPs just for BBS and haven't touched them since. XD)
Yeah, I actually meant to say full hours-length movie but it sounded weird. Hahaha. But yes it would be nothing short of spectacular, and they better make the numbered games on par with FFXIII in the graphics department. They have well-known English voice actors for the job. Not to mention the pay for each and every person on the team who would render all the cutscenes, the technology and equipment they'll need, the right marketing, the money they'll give the higher-ups from both Disney and SE, and a huge wad of cash for Nomura.
Well, honestly, KH3D already looks really amazing. o.o Seriously, the characters in the Tron world were so realistic. The nice thing about KH's inherent cartoon-y style is that it's fairly easy to make it look good on any platform because they can go with stylized worlds over realism which is what the FFs have turned towards. So I feel like any future projects they do won't really be hindered by graphics or anything like that. It'll look good even if it ends up on a less powerful console.
I was a member of the last KH SE FC and yeah, Saku-chan told me about there being a new one~ May I please partake in discussions/fangirling/ avoidance of spoilers pertaining to Dream Drop Distance? Which I need a 3DS for
I was a member of the last KH SE FC and yeah, Saku-chan told me about there being a new one~ May I please partake in discussions/fangirling/ avoidance of spoilers pertaining to Dream Drop Distance? Which I need a 3DS for
Walls of text are fantastic okay and sorry hun. VEN IS JUST OUR FAVORITE, OKAY
Sakura/everyone what would you (guys) think of a Kingdom Hearts movie?
Lightning already agreed it would be amazing but you are the other fangirl. Also do you (guys) think its got a good possibility of happening considering the disney partnering of KH??
um my only condition for a KH movie is it has to have Ven in it. And I think whoever would do the movie would have to pay sooooo muchhhhh moneeeeey omg to Disney for the use of their characters. So it'd have to be one of the bigger studios. So if they have the money and put Ven in it I say AWESOME~
Heh I don't mind that much. I've posted a fair share of walls of text myself.
So yeah, just continue on fangirling, this is the SE Fan Club after all.
They act as pretty interesting reads, too.
erm I think we've turned it into the "Ven is Awesome" fanclub ;;
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Both MX incarnations are creepy in their own ways, Geezernort from being a geezer and messing with young childrens' heads, and YMX from all that time travel and mindblowing illusions. Yeah I was expecting someone to show up and save him, too, but at least Ven attempted to save him before he completely fell into darkness. Yes, that secret ending actually gave me hope for Kairi even though I was convinced back then that giving her a Keyblade was a weird idea. But I'm okay with it now. Creeper Lea, haha. And you'd think he already had enough from being with Roxas and Xion during Days.
ohgod I SERIOUSLY THOUGHT THAT HE WAS GOING TO MURDER SORA, OKAY even though this game is half-Disney and as such it would never happen BUT STILL. and yesyes VEN YOU ARE TOO SWEET. erm so if Ven hadn't gave Sora his armor what exactly would've happened because I am imagining horrible things omg. And as for the Kairi thing, I was convinced that it was a one-time deal but then I saw the keyblade in bbs and I was like "nooooope." And Leaaaaaaaaa. He's used to carrying/watching unconscious kids, lol.
"Ven, I thought you were supposed to get all the colours before going back to start. You're missing green though..."
"Uhhhh there's this... special rule, where if you go Red, Blue and Yellow in that order, you don't have to go get Green. You just get... uhhhh... less points. Yeah."
VEN YOU ARE MY FAVORITE ASDFJKL didn't your master teach you not to lie? Oh of course he didn't 'cause he's a BIG STUPID
spoilers for: BBS
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Don't forget that he also took off Ven's shirt around the time of blank-eyes Ven when he went to go dump him in Destiny Islands! :D I... I still never did figure out why that was necessary. (And I often forget about it because if you select a new game and skip the tutorial, I think it skips that scene too. Nooothing can top the sheer confusion when I started up the game for the first time and suddenly there was an Organization member with a shirtless dead-looking Roxas in DI. It was so WTF-worthy.)
WAS THAT ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY MX. JESUS. WHY EXACTLY DID YOU HAVE TO TAKE AN UNDERAGE BOY'S SHIRT OFF? WAS IT TO MAXIMIZE YOUR CREEPINESS? it does skip that and I'm grateful for it because blank-eyes Ven and MX together give me all kinds of RAGE OMG
Marluxia had no heart and I'm of the opinion he didn't try very hard to get it back or pretend he did have one or anything like that. So when he was using Namine, he didn't feel bad or good about it, he just used her like a tool because she was the easiest way to get what he wanted. That's not okay, but DiZ had a heart and feelings and would have had to look at Namine every time he gave her orders and go "oh wow, I am abusing this girl who looks younger than 14; but if I remind myself she has no heart, it's TOTALLY OKAY." So I think that makes it a lot worse. (Honestly, in my last post, I think I completely forgot about the fact that Marluxia had no heart when I was trying to justify why I didn't mind his actions but hated DiZ's. Wooow. /fail XD)
Omg i know. He acted pretty much like a Nobody and in fact the first time I played KHII do I have to spoiler-tag KHII stuff? I don't think so so I won'tI thought he was one. and then at the end of the game he's ansem and I was like "butbutbut YOU ARE A HORRIBLE PERSON ;___;" hun you just love dat flower scythe don't you XD
spoilers for: KH3D
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Y-yeah. I can see that. (Although omg I don't even remember Riku in Re:Coded LMAO. I was listing the games I disliked him in above and went "wait, wasn't he in Re:Coded? But I only remember Sora. Oh well.") Pretty much any time something happened in either Sora or Riku's worlds during the game that affected the other person's version, they'd get all dreamy-eyed and look up toward the heavens with trust and joy and friendship in their eyes and I was just like "omg stop that please". XD; I didn't come out of the game shipping it, but I guess coming out of the game not hating Riku was a big enough step for me! Maybe by the next one. :P
He was in fact in re:coded as I was watching my best friend play it last night but idk the journal took riku's form so idk if it actually counts as riku. And yeah like the last half of re:coded turns soriku lol. omg i was like "BOYS. STOP THAT THIS INSTANT OR I AM GOING TO SHIP YOU" but they didn't so I did D; KH3D is definitely Riku's best game, imo. At least he's not whiny anymore. butbutbut I sort of loved him even when he was whiny don't judge me D; He's MASTER RIKU <3
"No you're not! Everyone's a somebody. His tone turned indignant, as if he was insulted by how little she thought of herself." OH MY GOD. ;_; HE WOULD. HE WOULD BE LIKE IN TEARS AND THEN THINK SOMEONE ELSE WAS SAD AND JUMP TO COMFORT THEM. dying. i definitely ship this now. so hard. (And then later "Call me Ven!"... that's our wifi password in this house hahaha. XD;)
omg i know this fanfic has a completely in character and heartbreakingly adorable Ven and that makes me so happy omg. HE HATES IT WHEN OTHER PEOPLE ARE SAD BECAUSE HE IS THE BEST. omg i was dying too the first time I read it i was like "a;klgjdslfjdslhglsdkfjhskldgjfd;lg YOU SWEETHEART" VenxNami 3rd OTP behind Soriku and Akuroku I CAN'T HELP IT THEY BOTH MAKE ME HAVE ALL THE FEELINGS and this is saying something, as I don't like namine too much outside of shipping her with Ven omg
spoilers for: KH3D, BBS
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You will definitely recognize his attacks, I think. XD; If I could pick them out here and there with minimal Ven playtime, you will be able to.
To be fair, she considered it for a moment until Terra and Ven were somehow like "NOPE, TACKY FRIENDSHIP GESTURE" with their keyblades. XD; I think I'd be equally sad with a posessed!Aqua though. Maybe MX will make use of her armour which should still be in the Chamber of Repose? It's obvious by now that the Keyblade Armour definitely retains a fair bit of the fighting patterns of the people who used it, even if they aren't there. (Terra's Armour was still able to fight Sora in KH2FM, presumably, long after Terranort disappeared from the area.) So if it could be reanimated, it could definitely show up as a boss fight or something. I kind of want this to happen now. :D That would be so fun.
But you know I'm probably going to feel bad about beating him up. I felt bad about beating up Venitas and Vanitas was the one in control and I hate Vanitas but it was Ven's body but sdfkjlsd. I CAN'T RATIONALIZE MY THOUGHTS OKAY. If he can find her armor, perhaps. Wasn't Xemnas the only one who knew where the Chamber of Repose is? Though if MX is reformed, does that mean he got Ansem: SoD's and Xemnas's memories? Idk this is confusing. and apparently Nomura said that the Lingering Sentiment fight in KHII is non-canon. REALLY BECAUSE IF SORA REMEMBERED IT THAT MIGHT SOLVE A FEW PROBLEMS. I think Yen Sid and Mickey are still clueless about Terra's whereabouts, aren't they? though idk if either of them would recognize the armor since I'm fairly certain that Mickey never even met Terra D; AQUA'S ARMOR FIGHT I WANT THIS TO BECOME A THING
...well. The Japanese one was like $300. x_X; I don't think I can justify getting an English one at all this year. I also don't mind just playing the Japanese version of KH3D. I can always pick up the English one sometime way down the road when it's on sale and my roommates are long done with the 3DS. I'm really hoping what little interactivity there is in 3D works between JP and English this time, but I somewhat doubt that since Days and BBS never played nice together between languages. ;_;' So I guess I'd be missing out on that sort of thing if I don't buy my own console but... not any time soon.
I bet it won't though, since apparently PLAYING WITH PEOPLE FROM OTHER COUNTRIES IS BAD. BAAAAAAAAAD. DX
spoilers for: KH3D
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Omg, I'd forgotten about the boss music from Tron. Seriously, I set down the 3DS when the Sora vs Tron fight started and just listened to it and I've only done that a few times in the series. (I did it again later in the game during the normal battle music of TWTNW. Maaan Deep Dive is AWESOME. *u* It mixes up all the Organization themes with the original Deep Drive track. It's probably my second-favourite song on the OST after the Impetus remixes.
It is in fact called "Rinzler Recompiled" and I thought it was epic and heartbreaking at the same time omg. Poor Sora. asdfjkl DEEP DIVE ASDFJKL SPECTACULAR. Of course, Ven'sArmor!Sora boss music is first for me, then YMX, then Ansem/Xemnas sort of tie for third, and then Rinzler Recompiled. THIS MUSIC IS SPECTACULAR
@Cid
Yeah its difficult I may just find aslightly less legal way to play it.. dont judge.
They could just tie it all into the next kingdom hearts (console) games and have it as a bonus for say a collectors editions with the movie also purchasable as a seperate item. I think that would make it profitable and worth while for them to do it!
@Rokususa
You dont need to ask permission to join into the discussion. Just say youre joining and jump right into it so youre adding to the conversation as well as joining xD. More in line with the rules of the forum this way
So welcome and please jump right it! (Just label any spoilers for me so I dont kill the games for myself!) :P
@lightning
I went to quote your post and nearly died. :O So much writing!
But the movie thing, WHERE IS THIS INTERVIEW! You must find and deliver it to usme! I would love so much to see KH in a movie for the fight scenes Advent Children Spoiler
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Cloud vs Sephiroth in Advent Children Complete fight scene, MY GOD!!!!
with the kingdom hearts characters, I've seen some cut scenes of KH fight scenes and they look awesomeeeee!! (would insert the gif if I could be bothered finding it.)
Also thanks heaps for labeling the spoilers now so I know not to let my curiosity ruin the games for me!
@Sakura
-You just ninja'd me >.>-
I wish there was something I could comment on in your post but its all spoilers of what I can't look at >.> :(. Just yours and Lightnings fangirling is so cute, especially how much you two are in love with Ven.
You put this in smalltext as if it's something to be ashamed of! :(
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ohgod I SERIOUSLY THOUGHT THAT HE WAS GOING TO MURDER SORA, OKAY even though this game is half-Disney and as such it would never happen BUT STILL. and yesyes VEN YOU ARE TOO SWEET. erm so if Ven hadn't gave Sora his armor what exactly would've happened because I am imagining horrible things omg. And as for the Kairi thing, I was convinced that it was a one-time deal but then I saw the keyblade in bbs and I was like "nooooope." And Leaaaaaaaaa. He's used to carrying/watching unconscious kids, lol.
I think Sora just would've not woken up but... what would happen to the people in his heart? :( Would they be dropped into Oblivion too? That's depressing. Omg, imagine Aqua coming back and fixing Terra and all that and going to get Ven together like she said they would and then Ven just never wakes up. My heart. It is breaking.
Lea + unconscious kids just sounds like the worst case of babysitting ever.
VEN YOU ARE MY FAVORITE ASDFJKL didn't your master teach you not to lie? Oh of course he didn't 'cause he's a BIG STUPID
Well, if he did teach him, Terra probably untaught him. XD Ven looks up to him so much, he'd probably just do whatever Terra does and I can see Terra making stuff like that up all the time when caught doing something wrong. Ven, nooo. ;_; If you need a role model, pick Aqua. You don't wanna be like Terra.
spoilers for: BbS, of course
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WAS THAT ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY MX. JESUS. WHY EXACTLY DID YOU HAVE TO TAKE AN UNDERAGE BOY'S SHIRT OFF? WAS IT TO MAXIMIZE YOUR CREEPINESS? it does skip that and I'm grateful for it because blank-eyes Ven and MX together give me all kinds of RAGE OMG
It's still creepy but I sometimes feel like if Ven had been completely stripped, maybe it would've made more sense? Like, I don't know, maybe physical additions (clothes, accessories) to the body disappear when your heart/body is split into two. Or maybe it only works when you aren't wearing something. Or maybe it's stylistic effects like when magical girls transform. But just the shirt? wtf!
Omg i know. He acted pretty much like a Nobody and in fact the first time I played KHII do I have to spoiler-tag KHII stuff? I don't think so so I won'tI thought he was one. and then at the end of the game he's ansem and I was like "butbutbut YOU ARE A HORRIBLE PERSON ;___;" hun you just love dat flower scythe don't you XD
Right? In the end, he was kind of the most heartless of all because he did have one but he was either too much of a jerk to listen to it or he ignored his common sense on purpose. >:( I feel like if it's been 6 years since KH2 came out (omg it's been 6 years since KH2 came out), anyone who hasn't played it shouldn't be complaining about spoilers. I'm not marking them. XD
It's the pink. It's definitely the pink.
spoilers for: KH3D, re:coded
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He was in fact in re:coded as I was watching my best friend play it last night but idk the journal took riku's form so idk if it actually counts as riku. And yeah like the last half of re:coded turns soriku lol. omg i was like "BOYS. STOP THAT THIS INSTANT OR I AM GOING TO SHIP YOU" but they didn't so I did D; KH3D is definitely Riku's best game, imo. At least he's not whiny anymore. butbutbut I sort of loved him even when he was whiny don't judge me D; He's MASTER RIKU <3
OH RIGHT. I definitely remember now. I like how that's like, the main plot of the whole game, and I totally forgot it. XD;
Whiny/emo types just aren't really my thing. :( I've aaalways been a fan moreso of the Sora kinds of protagonists and characters moreso than the Rikus. But now that I don't hate Riku, I kind of want to go back and play some of the other games and maybe possibly feel ~sympathy~ for him instead of rolling my eyes and laughing at the fact that he has no friends.
Okay, no, I'll still laugh at the fact that he has no friends. [/easily amused]
look, no spoilers!
omg i know this fanfic has a completely in character and heartbreakingly adorable Ven and that makes me so happy omg. HE HATES IT WHEN OTHER PEOPLE ARE SAD BECAUSE HE IS THE BEST. omg i was dying too the first time I read it i was like "a;klgjdslfjdslhglsdkfjhskldgjfd;lg YOU SWEETHEART" VenxNami 3rd OTP behind Soriku and Akuroku I CAN'T HELP IT THEY BOTH MAKE ME HAVE ALL THE FEELINGS and this is saying something, as I don't like namine too much outside of shipping her with Ven omg
I only feel strongly about like... 3 pairings in KH (and one is strongly negative) so Ven/Namine is already pretty high up. XD; Might just be a phase (god knows I go through enough pairing phases) but still! Man, if I wasn't too lazy to go find my tablet or paper, I would be drawing all of the fanart... but alas. XD;
I love Namine and I love the idea of her having a friend or anyone who doesn't just associate with her because they have to, because she has answers they need, or because of who she's connected to. ;~; And Ven would be all of those things!
spoilers for: KH3D, BbS
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But you know I'm probably going to feel bad about beating him up. I felt bad about beating up Venitas and Vanitas was the one in control and I hate Vanitas but it was Ven's body but sdfkjlsd. I CAN'T RATIONALIZE MY THOUGHTS OKAY. If he can find her armor, perhaps. Wasn't Xemnas the only one who knew where the Chamber of Repose is? Though if MX is reformed, does that mean he got Ansem: SoD's and Xemnas's memories? Idk this is confusing. and apparently Nomura said that the Lingering Sentiment fight in KHII is non-canon. REALLY BECAUSE IF SORA REMEMBERED IT THAT MIGHT SOLVE A FEW PROBLEMS. I think Yen Sid and Mickey are still clueless about Terra's whereabouts, aren't they? though idk if either of them would recognize the armor since I'm fairly certain that Mickey never even met Terra D; AQUA'S ARMOR FIGHT I WANT THIS TO BECOME A THING
No, Xigbar/Braig also knew where the chamber was. He talks to Zexion about it in a flashback scene in KH2FM right after we see Xemnas walk excrutiatingly slowly toward the room during the frantic events going on in Radiant Garden above him oh my god Xemnas I don't want to skip this cutscene but you are insufferable HURRY UP heading to it. In KH3D, even though Xigbar/Braig/whatever has kind of been taken over by Xehanort to be one of the darkness people, he still seems to have enough of his conscious mind that if Xemnas doesn't remember where the room is, he probably does. And really, if they're just looking for empty shells anyway, they can't do much better than a freaking Keyblade Master's armour if it retains muscle memory or some sort of equivalent.
I have no idea what memories MX has now. :s The fact that Ansem and Xemnas are both there throw me off something fierce. He can't really be them reformed if they're both still around unless something weird is going on like with Kairi/Sora (how they kept their bodies despite creating Nobodies [even though isn't that the whole point of Nobodies, to be the shell after the heart is gone??]). Is he an MX that sort of time leapt like YMX does? I don't knoooow.
NOMURA ALSO SAID THERE WOULD BE A BBS2 WHEN HE MADE BBSFM SO I DON'T TRUST A WORD OUT OF THAT MAN'S MOUTH. /sob. I know he said that about the fight, but it doesn't feel out of place and I think it still works just fine in canon. I mean, yeah, it's weird that Sora would be transported to that place from Disney Castle's basement but even that could probably be rationalized. (ie, that's where Mickey was standing when he used that teleport-y bouncy object and Disney Castle just kind of remembers that the place was important?) Sora's memory is spotty at best, so I can totally see him just not even recognizing Terra's Armour if he saw it again and he sooo did not remember to tell Mickey about fighting it in the first place. XD; He probably finished the fight after years of attempts, if he is controlled by me and then said "Well that was weird!" and went back to flying around in his gummi ship. While Ven yells in his head "OMG THAT WAS TERRA NO GO BACK WHAT HAPPENED TERRAAAAA".
Also, Yen Sid totally knows what happened to Terra. I wouldn't believe him for a second if he said he didn't. Terra went to his castle for advice or something during BBS and they all knew where Terra was during the events of the final fights in BBS. They knew Terra was there and that MX became a looot younger so it's probably safe to assume that Yen Sid at least put 2 + 2 together. He's just a MASSIVE DOUCHEBAG FOR NOT TELLING ANYONE ABOUT IT AND RAISING FLAGS EARLIER. god. ;_;
spoilers for: KH3D
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It is in fact called "Rinzler Recompiled" and I thought it was epic and heartbreaking at the same time omg. Poor Sora. asdfjkl DEEP DIVE ASDFJKL SPECTACULAR. Of course, Ven'sArmor!Sora boss music is first for me, then YMX, then Ansem/Xemnas sort of tie for third, and then Rinzler Recompiled. THIS MUSIC IS SPECTACULAR
I never remember new!Tron's name. I have nooo idea what happened in that world since I never saw the original TRON and never saw the sequel either. XD; So I just kind of wandered through it, got confused during the scene when Xemnas sloooowwwwwllllyyyy tries to teach Sora about copy/pasting (seriously), and then got to that fight and went "ooh, pretty!" and then humiliated Tron Rinzler with RIKU SUXwondernyan Meow Wow, whatever the heck it's called.
Although omg Sora's insistence that Rinzler was good aww. ;~; Tron's personality was adorable in KH2 and I so wanted him to be good again in 3D. (I think he saved Sora from something in the end and like reached out for him and AWWW. ;_; I had no idea wtf was going on and it was still sad.)
I-I don't think there's an emulator for PSP. (But if you can get your hands on a system, even to borrow, I'm pretty sure [hypothetically, of course! :P] that PSP games are really easy to download and play on a hacked console and it is reversible.)
They could just tie it all into the next kingdom hearts (console) games and have it as a bonus for say a collectors editions with the movie also purchasable as a seperate item. I think that would make it profitable and worth while for them to do it!
Honestly, they could probably just package all the cutscenes from the games on a blu-ray and sell it to me and I'd buy it, no questions. XD; No need for new content, lmao.
@lightning
I went to quote your post and nearly died. :O So much writing!
But the movie thing, WHERE IS THIS INTERVIEW! You must find and deliver it to usme! I would love so much to see KH in a movie for the fight scenes Advent Children Spoiler
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Cloud vs Sephiroth in Advent Children Complete fight scene, MY GOD!!!!
with the kingdom hearts characters, I've seen some cut scenes of KH fight scenes and they look awesomeeeee!! (would insert the gif if I could be bothered finding it.)
I know, right? You might wanna avoid using the quote button on my posts though. Kind of a lot of spoilers you'd have to scroll past to delete. XD;
Well, one of the things I like about KH (especially 3D, since it's great for this) is that all those ridiculous battles you see in movies and cutscenes in other games are playable in KH. With reaction commands and the realtime action battle system, most things are actually doable. I think the only reason they ever put fights in cutscenes in KH is when they can't fit an actual fight in the game for time/space restraints. (For example, they ran out of time in KH2 and had to turn the fight against Roxas in TWTNW into a cutscene but they made it playable in KH2FM.) I shall look for the interview, though! I think it was in one of the earlier Ultimanias.
I would also want a KH movie for the music. Omg, the music in Advent Children was so awesome, I'd love KH to get the same treatment. *u*
@Sakura
-You just ninja'd me >.>-
I wish there was something I could comment on in your post but its all spoilers of what I can't look at >.> :(. Just yours and Lightnings fangirling is so cute, especially how much you two are in love with Ven.
@Sakura
-You just ninja'd me >.>-
I wish there was something I could comment on in your post but its all spoilers of what I can't look at >.> . Just yours and Lightnings fangirling is so cute, especially how much you two are in love with Ven.
asdfjkl. I'm sorrrryyyyy omg. What games have you played? If you haven't played BbS then yeah my posts are ~full of spoilers omg~ and Ven is just fantastic okay. He's just so cute and he loves his friends so much and HE DOES A LOT OF STUFF THAT I CAN'T SPEAK OF RIGHT NOW ASDFJKL but I just love him and Lightning is apparently the only other Ven fangirl on this planet because everyone seems to hate him and gah.
No, no! I just don't want everyone else to get fed up with us, lol. but veeeeeeeeen. he deserves to be talked about more ;;
spoiler: KH3D, BBS
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I think Sora just would've not woken up but... what would happen to the people in his heart? :( Would they be dropped into Oblivion too? That's depressing. Omg, imagine Aqua coming back and fixing Terra and all that and going to get Ven together like she said they would and then Ven just never wakes up. My heart. It is breaking.
Lea + unconscious kids just sounds like the worst case of babysitting ever.
ASDFJKL NO MY BABIES D; Well Roxas and Ven anyway not the biggest fan of Xion D; but asdfjkl no no no no noNO that can never happen VEN MUST WAKE UP BECAUSE EVERYONE NEEDS HIM ;; now my heart is breaking too. I can't imagine what Aqua would do ;_____; well technically it was Axel that carted around unconscious Roxas at CO and then unconscious Xion but he totally has nothing on Ven's babysitter skills <3
Well, if he did teach him, Terra probably untaught him. XD Ven looks up to him so much, he'd probably just do whatever Terra does and I can see Terra making stuff like that up all the time when caught doing something wrong. Ven, nooo. ;_; If you need a role model, pick Aqua. You don't wanna be like Terra.
Man, you've got some Terra issues going on up in here. IT'S BROMANCE, OKAY. but yeah terra would make stuff up on the spot and Aqua KNOWS ALL THE THINGS and she has ALL THE LOGICS so go ask her how to play ven XD
spoiler: BBS
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It's still creepy but I sometimes feel like if Ven had been completely stripped, maybe it would've made more sense? Like, I don't know, maybe physical additions (clothes, accessories) to the body disappear when your heart/body is split into two. Or maybe it only works when you aren't wearing something. Or maybe it's stylistic effects like when magical girls transform. But just the shirt? wtf!
Or maybe MX just likes shirtless and/or unconscious underage boys. IT SEEMS TO BE A TREND WITH HIM, AM I RIGHT. With the way YMX was like "DON'T TOUCH THE NEW VESSEL |:<" or perhaps it was catering to the fangirls who wanted to see Naked!Roxas!Ven. I'm going to guess the latter XD
Right? In the end, he was kind of the most heartless of all because he did have one but he was either too much of a jerk to listen to it or he ignored his common sense on purpose. >:( I feel like if it's been 6 years since KH2 came out (omg it's been 6 years since KH2 came out), anyone who hasn't played it shouldn't be complaining about spoilers. I'm not marking them. XD
I think he was blinded by his desire for revenge, and since he was banished or whatever from Radiant Garden by Nobodies, he just generalizes all Nobodies as EVIL. Which to be fair most of them are.especially Xigbar for reasons but Roxas and Namine weren't evil so wtf Diz :/ Good. omg seriously six years six asdfjkl KHIII WHERE ARE YOU D:
You know, Marluxia was originally supposed to be a woman. But then it would have been two women trying to oppose a male-dominated organization and getting crushed for it in the end. Unfortunate implications~
OH RIGHT. I definitely remember now. I like how that's like, the main plot of the whole game, and I totally forgot it. XD;
Whiny/emo types just aren't really my thing. :( I've aaalways been a fan moreso of the Sora kinds of protagonists and characters moreso than the Rikus. But now that I don't hate Riku, I kind of want to go back and play some of the other games and maybe possibly feel ~sympathy~ for him instead of rolling my eyes and laughing at the fact that he has no friends.
Okay, no, I'll still laugh at the fact that he has no friends. [/easily amused]
I tend to dislike both kinds of characters but nooooooo not in KH :/ Sora and Riku are both my babies and Ven too of course and Terra will be if he gets his head screwed on correctly in KHIII. poor dear no one likes him ): AWWWWWWWWWW POOR RIKU XD
look, no spoilers!
I only feel strongly about like... 3 pairings in KH (and one is strongly negative) so Ven/Namine is already pretty high up. XD; Might just be a phase (god knows I go through enough pairing phases) but still! Man, if I wasn't too lazy to go find my tablet or paper, I would be drawing all of the fanart... but alas. XD;
I love Namine and I love the idea of her having a friend or anyone who doesn't just associate with her because they have to, because she has answers they need, or because of who she's connected to. ;~; And Ven would be all of those things!
hun, go find your tablet and draw some ven/nami or more
Spoiler:
babysitter!ven
BECAUSE IT IS SPECTACULAR
Because Ven would be friends with anyone who's not Xehanort or Vanitas. BECAUSE HE'S JUST SO AWESOME SDLKFJSL.
spoiler: BBS, 3DS
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No, Xigbar/Braig also knew where the chamber was. He talks to Zexion about it in a flashback scene in KH2FM right after we see Xemnas walk excrutiatingly slowly toward the room during the frantic events going on in Radiant Garden above him oh my god Xemnas I don't want to skip this cutscene but you are insufferable HURRY UP heading to it. In KH3D, even though Xigbar/Braig/whatever has kind of been taken over by Xehanort to be one of the darkness people, he still seems to have enough of his conscious mind that if Xemnas doesn't remember where the room is, he probably does. And really, if they're just looking for empty shells anyway, they can't do much better than a freaking Keyblade Master's armour if it retains muscle memory or some sort of equivalent.
Oh yeah, forgot about that. I tend to zone out whenever Xigbar/Braig starts speaking because he is a prick of the highest order omg. and omg omg I watched that cutscene on youtube and I was like "Wtf why did I just watch Xemnas walk for four hours? Jesus." and forgot about that too. Idk why he would just let himself become a Xehanort. YOU MIGHT WANT TO RETHINK YOUR LIFE STRATEGY, THERE. he made me rage a little bit when he said the bit about the "drowned goldfish" to Sora asdfjkl I was like "GET SOME NEW MATERIAL MAN, YOU'VE BEEN USING THAT FOR TEN YEARS |:<" and then he got all up in Sora's face and I was like "YOU BEST STEP OFF, SON." and gaaaah. 3DS is one big rage-fest.
spoiler: BBS, 3DS
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I have no idea what memories MX has now. :s The fact that Ansem and Xemnas are both there throw me off something fierce. He can't really be them reformed if they're both still around unless something weird is going on like with Kairi/Sora (how they kept their bodies despite creating Nobodies [even though isn't that the whole point of Nobodies, to be the shell after the heart is gone??]). Is he an MX that sort of time leapt like YMX does? I don't knoooow.
Looked around on some other forums and general consensus is that this MX was pulled out of his timeline by YMX, before MX possessed Terra. Ansem and Xemnas were also pulled out of their timelines before they were destroyed by Sora/Riku. Now idk if this is the actual truth but it makes more sense than "LOL OLD!MASTER XEHANORT IS BACK WITH NO EXPLANATION WHATSOEVER", don't you think? and general consensus is also that all these Xehanorts were sent back to their timelines at the end of the game with no memory of what had happened. So that explains away the mass vanishing of the Xehanorts after Lea is a complete and utter boss and swoops in to save Sora.
spoiler:BBS
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NOMURA ALSO SAID THERE WOULD BE A BBS2 WHEN HE MADE BBSFM SO I DON'T TRUST A WORD OUT OF THAT MAN'S MOUTH. /sob. I know he said that about the fight, but it doesn't feel out of place and I think it still works just fine in canon. I mean, yeah, it's weird that Sora would be transported to that place from Disney Castle's basement but even that could probably be rationalized. (ie, that's where Mickey was standing when he used that teleport-y bouncy object and Disney Castle just kind of remembers that the place was important?) Sora's memory is spotty at best, so I can totally see him just not even recognizing Terra's Armour if he saw it again and he sooo did not remember to tell Mickey about fighting it in the first place. XD; He probably finished the fight after years of attempts, if he is controlled by me and then said "Well that was weird!" and went back to flying around in his gummi ship. While Ven yells in his head "OMG THAT WAS TERRA NO GO
BACK WHAT HAPPENED TERRAAAAA".
NOMURAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! I think that man is a compulsive liar ;_; yeah I never saw anything wrong with it either. You just need to fill in a couple of blanks (ie, the Disney Castle thing) I mean really. Sora sweetie, when you are attacked by a strange creature of armor who confuses you for Riku and then Xehanort of all people, you need to tell someone knowledgeable about this. The Ven thing, though, I'm not sure if Ven was completely conscious at this point. Like he was probably close to being somewhat conscious, but he wasn't yet. lol really? The fight always looked hard but alas no KHIIFM for me so I wouldn't know from experience D;SPEAKING OF LINGERING SENTIMENT~ this is seriously well-done and you need to watch it all the way through
spoiler:BBS
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Also, Yen Sid totally knows what happened to Terra. I wouldn't believe him for a second if he said he didn't. Terra went to his castle for advice or something during BBS and they all knew where Terra was during the events of the final fights in BBS. They knew Terra was there and that MX became a looot younger so it's probably safe to assume that Yen Sid at least put 2 + 2 together. He's just a MASSIVE DOUCHEBAG FOR NOT TELLING ANYONE ABOUT IT AND RAISING FLAGS EARLIER. god. ;_;
Omg seriously? You think so? Well, in that case YEN SID I AM DISAPPOINT. I mean how dare you do that Terra deserves to be saved like everyone else you big stupid. what is it with all these Keyblade Masters being big stupids. Except for Aqua of course <3
spoiler: KH3D
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I never remember new!Tron's name. I have nooo idea what happened in that world since I never saw the original TRON and never saw the sequel either. XD; So I just kind of wandered through it, got confused during the scene when Xemnas sloooowwwwwllllyyyy tries to teach Sora about copy/pasting (seriously), and then got to that fight and went "ooh, pretty!" and then humiliated Tron Rinzler with RIKU SUXwondernyan Meow Wow, whatever the heck it's called. Although omg Sora's insistence that Rinzler was good aww. ;~; Tron's personality was adorable in KH2 and I so wanted him to be good again in 3D. (I think he saved Sora from something in the end and like reached out for him and AWWW. ;_; I had no idea wtf was going on and it was still sad.)
Well, I saw the sequel why no not because of Space Paranoids why do you ask and I already knew who Rinzler was and then it came out that the Grid was going to be in 3D and I was like "uh-oh. UH-OH." copy/pasting whaaaaaaaaaaaaat. I FELT SO BAD FOR SORA DURING THAT BOSS FIGHT OMG. THE POOR DEAR. meow wow what. is that what it's called in english are you serious and I think Sora was trying to grab TronRinzler's hand but he didn't and Tron fell but I'm not too clear on any part of the game other than the endgame because when it came out I was like "ENDGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMEEEEEE" and yeah. >_<' but I think the Tron in KH3D is not the same Tron from KHII. I think the Grid is supposed to be a copy of Space Paranoids, so take heart from that? I think? god this game it's going to give me as many feels as BbS did asdfjkl.
jesus i hope everything is spoiler-tagged. There's too much of it DX
Soo.. Many.. Spoiler tag.. You two should just spoiler tag the whole post thats just to eachother while you fangirl xD.
@Sakura I havent played BbS :S
So yeah I dont know who Ven is.. But you two seem in love with him big time. Cuties!
/moves away from KH.
Since I have brought up Advent Children and got some of you talking about it, would anyone be interested in a Final Fantasy 7 remake for the PS3, Xbox 360 etc..? Also would you want it to keep the turnbased (or whatever youd call it) combat system or adapt over a more kingdom hearts (actual decent combat system) over into the FF games?
Personally I'd get the remake and play it if it had KH style combat xD I think itd be fantastic!
asdfjkl. I'm sorrrryyyyy omg. What games have you played? If you haven't played BbS then yeah my posts are ~full of spoilers omg~ and Ven is just fantastic okay. He's just so cute and he loves his friends so much and HE DOES A LOT OF STUFF THAT I CAN'T SPEAK OF RIGHT NOW ASDFJKL but I just love him and Lightning is apparently the only other Ven fangirl on this planet because everyone seems to hate him and gah.
HOW CAN ANYONE HATE VEN. I DON'T THINK THAT'S PHYSICALLY POSSIBLE. you must be mixing up "don't love to the sheer extent that we do" with "hate". *solemn nod*
No, no! I just don't want everyone else to get fed up with us, lol. but veeeeeeeeen. he deserves to be talked about more ;;
we could offer to take it to VMs but we already have and the VMs are almost as long as the posts too. how is this happening
spoiler: KH3D, BbS, Days
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ASDFJKL NO MY BABIES D; Well Roxas and Ven anyway not the biggest fan of Xion D; but asdfjkl no no no no noNO that can never happen VEN MUST WAKE UP BECAUSE EVERYONE NEEDS HIM ;; now my heart is breaking too. I can't imagine what Aqua would do ;_____; well technically it was Axel that carted around unconscious Roxas at CO and then unconscious Xion but he totally has nothing on Ven's babysitter skills <3
I feel like there's another kid Axel has touched inappropriately had to deal w--oh right. He drags an unconscious Sora around in 3D, too. I knew someone was missing. XD God, Axel, you suck at this.
Man, you've got some Terra issues going on up in here. IT'S BROMANCE, OKAY. but yeah terra would make stuff up on the spot and Aqua KNOWS ALL THE THINGS and she has ALL THE LOGICS so go ask her how to play ven XD
TERRA IS JUST HILARIOUSLY BAD AT LIFE, OKAY. I find it difficult to take him seriously in the slightest.
spoiler:KH3D, BbS
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Or maybe MX just likes shirtless and/or unconscious underage boys. IT SEEMS TO BE A TREND WITH HIM, AM I RIGHT. With the way YMX was like "DON'T TOUCH THE NEW VESSEL |:<" or perhaps it was catering to the fangirls who wanted to see Naked!Roxas!Ven. I'm going to guess the latter XD
I suppose the better option is the latter but that didn't make it any less awkward to sit through. ;_; I felt like a pedo or something lmao.
I think he was blinded by his desire for revenge, and since he was banished or whatever from Radiant Garden by Nobodies, he just generalizes all Nobodies as EVIL. Which to be fair most of them are.especially Xigbar for reasons but Roxas and Namine weren't evil so wtf Diz :/ Good. omg seriously six years six asdfjkl KHIII WHERE ARE YOU D:
You know, Marluxia was originally supposed to be a woman. But then it would have been two women trying to oppose a male-dominated organization and getting crushed for it in the end. Unfortunate implications~
Most of the Nobodies weren't kids, either. (Namine looks the right age in KH2 but when DiZ met her, she totally looked 8. Who in their right mind suspects 8 year olds of being irreversibly evil?? Especially when you know what kind of background they came from before you met them!) >:( Even if Namine and Roxas WERE evil, dude, they were created from 14 year olds. They wouldn't know any better anyway!
haha i know. I don't think anyone is ever surprised to hear it. :( They didn't try very hard to mask that change, lmao.
I tend to dislike both kinds of characters but nooooooo not in KH :/ Sora and Riku are both my babies and Ven too of course and Terra will be if he gets his head screwed on correctly in KHIII. poor dear no one likes him ): AWWWWWWWWWW POOR RIKU XD
I've become so chill in fandoms over the years that it's really hard for me to dislike anyone. Even the characters whose personalities/actions I dislike, I usually like the idea of their character to some extent. (Except MX. Will never like MX.) And of course I'm that weird fangirl in the series who actually likes every single one of the girls oops. @_@; I'm just indifferent to everyone else lol.
hun, go find your tablet and draw some ven/nami or more
Spoiler:
babysitter!ven
BECAUSE IT IS SPECTACULAR
Because Ven would be friends with anyone who's not Xehanort or Vanitas. BECAUSE HE'S JUST SO AWESOME SDLKFJSL.
:( Ven would probably try to be friends with them too, if they'd met under different circumstances. I mean, it wouldn't have lasted long. But still would have tried.
.......no arguments here. XD
spoiler: BbS, 3DS
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Oh yeah, forgot about that. I tend to zone out whenever Xigbar/Braig starts speaking because he is a prick of the highest order omg. and omg omg I watched that cutscene on youtube and I was like "Wtf why did I just watch Xemnas walk for four hours? Jesus." and forgot about that too. Idk why he would just let himself become a Xehanort. YOU MIGHT WANT TO RETHINK YOUR LIFE STRATEGY, THERE. he made me rage a little bit when he said the bit about the "drowned goldfish" to Sora asdfjkl I was like "GET SOME NEW MATERIAL MAN, YOU'VE BEEN USING THAT FOR TEN YEARS |:<" and then he got all up in Sora's face and I was like "YOU BEST STEP OFF, SON." and gaaaah. 3DS is one big rage-fest.
Xigbar takes too long to get to the point and I don't think anyone ever actually tells him anything to begin with so he doesn't know what he's talking about anyway. I think Zexion spends the whole scene telling him to go away. I cannot blame him. I am really curious to know what his motive for becoming a Xehanort is. And Isa, too. Were they tricked into it? And why tf does Braig follow MX in the first place? It's MX's fault that he lost his eye. I'd excommunicate anyone who got me into a situation like that. >:O
spoiler: BbS, 3DS
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Looked around on some other forums and general consensus is that this MX was pulled out of his timeline by YMX, before MX possessed Terra. Ansem and Xemnas were also pulled out of their timelines before they were destroyed by Sora/Riku. Now idk if this is the actual truth but it makes more sense than "LOL OLD!MASTER XEHANORT IS BACK WITH NO EXPLANATION WHATSOEVER", don't you think? and general consensus is also that all these Xehanorts were sent back to their timelines at the end of the game with no memory of what had happened. So that explains away the mass vanishing of the Xehanorts after Lea is a complete and utter boss and swoops in to save Sora.
Oh. Wait, so then... (Y)MX has to go around collecting them all again? The hell? So what was the point of pulling Xemnas/Ansem out of their timelines anyway? Just to act as distractions for Riku and Sora while MX was compiled? I mean, I gues that kind of makes sense but it seems like kind of a waste.
Augh, time travel is confusing, why did they have to bring it into KH lmao. ;_;
spoiler:BbS
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NOMURAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! I think that man is a compulsive liar ;_; yeah I never saw anything wrong with it either. You just need to fill in a couple of blanks (ie, the Disney Castle thing) I mean really. Sora sweetie, when you are attacked by a strange creature of armor who confuses you for Riku and then Xehanort of all people, you need to tell someone knowledgeable about this. The Ven thing, though, I'm not sure if Ven was completely conscious at this point. Like he was probably close to being somewhat conscious, but he wasn't yet. lol really? The fight always looked hard but alas no KHIIFM for me so I wouldn't know from experience D;SPEAKING OF LINGERING SENTIMENT~ this is seriously well-done and you need to watch it all the way through
I like the idea of Ven being conscious pretty much all the time in Sora's head. When Sora's writing math tests in school, they'd be able to sit there brainstorming together. (But I don't think Ven would be very much help in that situation.) Sora probably just thinks of Ven as his imaginary friend. 8D
>18 minute video
>like this post isn't taking me long enough XD
Wow, I recognize this Youtuber. They're the reason I got through Ven's side of my LV1 playthrough because they'd already done it before. Wow, and they're good at dubbing too, it's so well-done. And awww that ending. I really want to go back and do this fight now... I haven't since BBS came out since I only managed to do it the first time a few days before BBS arrived on my doorstep anyway.
I also like that according to this video, Terra('s Armour) picked the wrong side again. "Don't mind me, just attacking the only person capable of stopping future!Me from taking over the world!"
spoiler:BbS
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Omg seriously? You think so? Well, in that case YEN SID I AM DISAPPOINT. I mean how dare you do that Terra deserves to be saved like everyone else you big stupid. what is it with all these Keyblade Masters being big stupids. Except for Aqua of course <3
Well. To be fair. Terra probably deserves to be saved last, but it's probably safest to save him first since it would solve at least some of the Xehanort problems. u_u; But I mean, I hate that they never tell Sora the whole story ever. They have to assume in the first game that there's only one Keyblade ever, in KH2, they don't even tell them that Ansem = Xehanort until halfway through the game... god. It's like they want him to bumble through his role as SAVIOR OF THE UNIVERSE by accident. >:/ I mean, I can't reeeally think of any problems it would have solved for Sora to be more knowledgeable about the past the whole time, but it couldn't be a bad thing either.
spoiler: KH3D
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Well, I saw the sequel why no not because of Space Paranoids why do you ask and I already knew who Rinzler was and then it came out that the Grid was going to be in 3D and I was like "uh-oh. UH-OH." copy/pasting whaaaaaaaaaaaaat. I FELT SO BAD FOR SORA DURING THAT BOSS FIGHT OMG. THE POOR DEAR. meow wow what. is that what it's called in english are you serious and I think Sora was trying to grab TronRinzler's hand but he didn't and Tron fell but I'm not too clear on any part of the game other than the endgame because when it came out I was like "ENDGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMEEEEEE" and yeah. >_<' but I think the Tron in KH3D is not the same Tron from KHII. I think the Grid is supposed to be a copy of Space Paranoids, so take heart from that? I think? god this game it's going to give me as many feels as BbS did asdfjkl.
Yeah, only reason I ever have any intention of seeing a TRON movie is because of KH. XD As for copy/pasting... there's this long scene where Xemnas shows up while Sora's in The Grid and Xemnas starts going on about copies and how every time Sora does something, there's another version of him that did something else and I think he was going on and on about alternate universe things, trying to explain (very round-aboutly) how YMX's time travel works. He's also explaining how The Grid is just a copy of the program used in Space Paranoids, but Sora just does. not. get it. And Xemnas also threw something about feelings in there, but I never did figure out why. Anyway! There are like 20 Soras walking around during the cutscene or something so I just called it the copy/pasting lesson. 8D Hopefully this is accurate. I was high on painkillers for pretty much every part of this game except the last 2-3 worlds so I rarely (if ever) knew wtf was going on. XD;
After the Rinzler fight was just confusing. So you fight him, and then ActualBadGuy attacks, but Rinzler/Tron/whoever blocks his attacks so it does seem like there's some sort of connection between him and Sora. (I think the characters try to rationalize it as their hearts were connected even if it wasn't the same Tron? Sounds KH-y enough.) But in protecting Sora, Rinzler falls to his doom or whatever--and he and Sora definitely have a moment going on when they reach for each other, but Sora doesn't make it in time and Rinzler disappears. I was so ready for the waterworks then because BAAAW but... Sora just stares at his hand, and then gets all happy about the fact that Tron "remembered" him. I was left sitting there going "WAIT. But... you let him fall... WTF SORA." @_@
Since I have brought up Advent Children and got some of you talking about it, would anyone be interested in a Final Fantasy 7 remake for the PS3, Xbox 360 etc..? Also would you want it to keep the turnbased (or whatever youd call it) combat system or adapt over a more kingdom hearts (actual decent combat system) over into the FF games?
Personally I'd get the remake and play it if it had KH style combat xD I think itd be fantastic!
I would love one but they've as good as confirmed it's not coming any time soon, if ever. :( Apparently it would just be too big a project to undertake since it would take almost all of their resources to recreate everything on a current-gen console. I imagine changing the fighting system around would take even more work. XD;
But I'd still love something like this. ;~; I don't have a problem with old graphics anyway, but a lot of people I know do so the only way they'll play older games like FF7 is if it gets remade. :/
I would love one but they've as good as confirmed it's not coming any time soon, if ever. :( Apparently it would just be too big a project to undertake since it would take almost all of their resources to recreate everything on a current-gen console. I imagine changing the fighting system around would take even more work. XD;
But I'd still love something like this. ;~; I don't have a problem with old graphics anyway, but a lot of people I know do so the only way they'll play older games like FF7 is if it gets remade. :/
Naw, I saw that somewhere I think but I was hoping they'd recreate it. The old graphics were very tedious to look at especially with the horrible combat system.
The FF combat system is definitely my least favourite combat system I can remember using.
Id play the whole game through if they remade it.. even with the horrible combat system.. Just to see the cut scenes xD.
Speaking of which what does everyone think about the FF combat system? Like or dislike it? And why do you like/dislike it??
Naw, I saw that somewhere I think but I was hoping they'd recreate it. The old graphics were very tedious to look at especially with the horrible combat system.
The FF combat system is definitely my least favourite combat system I can remember using.
Id play the whole game through if they remade it.. even with the horrible combat system.. Just to see the cut scenes xD.
Speaking of which what does everyone think about the FF combat system? Like or dislike it? And why do you like/dislike it??
Really?? I looove the ATB system. I'm not usually a fan of turn-based battles but I love the realtime element that the Final Fantasy series usually uses. I didn't like FFX as much as others because they took out the realtime aspect. My favourites are probably XIII(-2), X-2, XII and VII in that order. (I say VII because I haven't *actually* played many others and they sort of seem pretty similar from what I can tell anyway. XD)
I have nothing against turn-based, but battles never feel epic or down-to-the-wire unless there's some sort of timing element. (I only like XII's so much because it allowed me to pretty much set everything up perfectly and then never touch the controller during fights because everything was set to do it for me. XD *lazy*)
Really?? I looove the ATB system. I'm not usually a fan of turn-based battles but I love the realtime element that the Final Fantasy series usually uses. I didn't like FFX as much as others because they took out the realtime aspect. My favourites are probably XIII(-2), X-2, XII and VII in that order. (I say VII because I haven't *actually* played many others and they sort of seem pretty similar from what I can tell anyway. XD)
I have nothing against turn-based, but battles never feel epic or down-to-the-wire unless there's some sort of timing element. (I only like XII's so much because it allowed me to pretty much set everything up perfectly and then never touch the controller during fights because everything was set to do it for me. XD *lazy*)
My main problem is that it stops game play and has to load up the battle instead of just getting right into it. If it was really quick so you barely noticed the change itd be alright i just hate the fact it takes so long to load up each battle and that you cant actively be apart of the fights (Because all you do is click do this attack or this attack, not a combinations of buttons, which i do like a lot better).
I have nothing against turn-based at all either I just don't think its a very good combat system for a fighting based game such as FF..
Plus turn based combat doesnt feel as risky or tense because you know how much damage your move has and its chance of critting so its basically just click the move that does the most damage then watch it happen then repeat. :S but thats just me. Im sure someone here loveesss the FF style combat!
I wonder what kind of battle system KH 3 will have. I noticed each game they change it. TBH if they did Free Flow from 3D,Summons and Reactions from KH 2 and D Link from BBS I'd be happy.