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Ace Trainer?

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    • Seen Aug 16, 2012
    Volcarona [Tigrinum] @ Rocky Helmet
    Flame Body
    Psychic
    Bug Buzz
    Fiery Dance
    Quiver Dance

    Lilligant [Dianthus] @ Big Root
    Own Tempo
    Petal Dance
    Dream Eater
    Quiver Dance
    Sleep Powder

    Vaporeon [Nereid] @ Leftovers
    Water Absorb
    Scald
    Ice Beam
    Hyper Beam
    Shadow Ball

    Latias [Bianca] @ Wise Glasses
    Levitate
    Surf
    Psychic
    Thunderbolt
    Dragon Pulse

    Lucario [Anubis] @ Expert Belt
    Inner Focus
    Earthquake
    Aura Sphere
    Flash Cannon
    Extremespeed

    Meloetta [Thalia] @ Sitrus Berry
    Serene Grace
    Psychic
    Acrobatics
    Relic Song
    Close Combat

    ... Well? What's the verdict?
     
    Uh, was this made in-game or on Pokemon Online? If it's in-game we're probably going to need levels (only assuming so because of Hyper Beam - which isn't good due to leaving to immobile for one turn and doesn't do the greatest damage in comparison to STAB attacks and LO boosts etc overall) aaand natures/EVs will also help, especially for things like Lucario which can be special or physical and your natures etc may not fit.

    Anyway just going to add in a few things, consider Hidden Power (rock or fire) over Dream Eater, since Petal Dance isn't necessarily destroy everything alone - and the HP loss from that isn't really worth it, plus the fact that Sleep Powder itself is unreliable. If it is in-game then that's okay, but it's something to be weary of, since you'll have issues with grass/flying/bugs etc.

    Vaporeon is kinda all over the place. With Scald & its general movesets it mostly abuses the hidden ability, Hydration, however yours doesn't really serve any kind of purpose. You could try acid armor/baton pass/substitute with scald to help others with not the greatest defenses or things with double weaknesses, like Lucario, and with things like Terrakion running around a defense boost or three can be useful.

    Latias doesn't really need Psychic (or rather Psyshock would be better for fighting types but it can otherwise kill with dragon pulse) so you could replace that with calm mind to further the great defenses and boost spa anyway.

    Also on Lucario, EQ is usually redundant when you have a fighting attack w/ STAB that can hit pretty much the same things. However, it would be to your benefit to really specialise in either special or physical, so you could utilise nasty plot, swords dance, choice specs, choice band, etc. So yeah, natures will definitely help that.

    But ya, also don't really know much of Meloetta, and it's also unreleased currently, so keep that in mind that people may not want to battle it/you for that reason.
     
    Also, we need to see your EVs. I'll assume this is a PO team.

    To back up on what Nica said about Vaporeon, it's better off supporting the team with Wish:
    -Wish
    -Scald
    -Protect
    -Ice Beam/Toxic
    Nature: Bold
    EVs: 248 HP/252 Def/8 SDef
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Water Absorb

    While Own Tempo + Petal Dance is tempting, Lilligant is better off using Giga Drain as its STAB because Grass is a pretty poor offensive type. Lilligant isn't a good choice in OU too because of its very shallow movepool. You're better off using Ferrothorn, who has a better movepool and can support the team:
    -Spikes/Stealth Rock
    -Leech Seed
    -Power Whip/Protect
    -Gyro Ball/Thunder Wave/Protect
    Nature: Relaxed
    EVs: 252 HP/88 Def/168 SDef
    Item: Leftovers

    Latios is better offensively than Latias. If you want to continue using Latias, use this:
    -Calm Mind
    -Dragon Pulse
    -Recover
    -Hidden Power (Fire)/Substitute/Roar
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 252 HP/4 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Leftovers

    For Lucario, you can choose between these sets:
    -Swords Dance
    -Close Combat
    -Crunch
    -ExtremeSpeed/Ice Punch/Stone Edge
    Nature: Adamant/Jolly
    EVs: 4 Def/252 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Life Orb

    or
    -Nasty Plot
    -Aura Sphere
    -Dark Pulse/Shadow Ball
    -Hidden Power (Ice)/Vacuum Wave
    Nature: Modest/Timid
    EVs: 4 Def/252 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Life Orb

    Meloetta hasn't been officially released yet. You have to find something else to take that slot. I'll let other people decide on that.
     
    Thank you, Platinum Dude. I will revise my team accordingly.

    In truth, I only recently got access to WiFi, so I am new to competitive battling- it seems it shows ^^'

    Shall I presume my Volcarona alright?
     
    Thank you, Platinum Dude. I will revise my team accordingly.

    In truth, I only recently got access to WiFi, so I am new to competitive battling- it seems it shows ^^'

    Shall I presume my Volcarona alright?

    Not really; just change the item to Life Orb and you're all set.
     
    Perhaps Gardevoir would make a good replacement for Meloetta? And Haxorus for Lucario...
     
    Perhaps Gardevoir would make a good replacement for Meloetta? And Haxorus for Lucario...

    Generally, Alakazam or Reuniclus would be better replacements. Both share the Magic Guard ability, so that's good for protection against sandstorm, Toxic/burn damage and Life Orb recoil. Here are a couple sets you should use if you go with either one:

    Alakazam:
    -Calm Mind/Substitute
    -Psychic/Psyshock
    -Shadow Ball
    -Focus Blast
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item Life Orb/Focus Sash
    Ability: Magic Guard

    Reuniclus:
    -Calm Mind
    -Psychic/Psyshock
    -Focus Blast
    -Recover
    Nature: Bold
    EVs: 252 HP/252 Def/4 SDef
    Item Life Orb/Leftovers
    Ability: Magic Guard

    Why would you replace Lucario, though?
     
    (Modest) Volcarona [Tigrinum] @ Life Orb
    Flame Body
    Psychic
    Bug Buzz
    Fiery Dance
    Quiver Dance

    (Relaxed) Ferrothorn [Tribulus] @ Rocky Helmet
    Iron Barbs
    Protect
    Gyro Ball
    Leech Seed
    Stealth Rock

    (Modest) Vaporeon [Nereid] @ Leftovers
    Water Absorb
    Scald
    Protect
    Ice Beam
    Hidden Power (Grass)

    (Timid) Latias [Bianca] @ Soul Dew
    Levitate
    Toxic
    Recover
    Substitute
    Dragon Pulse

    (Adamant) Lucario [Anubis] @ Life Orb
    Inner Focus
    Earthquake
    Close Combat
    ExtremeSpeed
    Swords Dance

    (Bold) Reuniclus [Homunculus] @ Life Orb
    Magic Guard
    Psychic
    Recover
    Calm Mind
    Focus Blast

    How's that?
     
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