• Our software update is now concluded. You will need to reset your password to log in. In order to do this, you will have to click "Log in" in the top right corner and then "Forgot your password?".
  • Welcome to PokéCommunity! Register now and join one of the best fan communities on the 'net to talk Pokémon and more! We are not affiliated with The Pokémon Company or Nintendo.

3rd Gen Hardest Hoenn Gym Leader?

Who is the hardest Hoenn Gym Leader?

  • Roxanne

    Votes: 5 1.7%
  • Brawly

    Votes: 25 8.7%
  • Wattson

    Votes: 26 9.1%
  • Flannery

    Votes: 7 2.4%
  • Norman

    Votes: 53 18.5%
  • Winona

    Votes: 22 7.7%
  • Tate & Liza

    Votes: 129 45.1%
  • Wallace/Juan

    Votes: 19 6.6%

  • Total voters
    286
72
Posts
11
Years
    • Age 25
    • Seen Apr 21, 2024
    tate and liza. I hated them so much. earlier in my pokemon days i would only raise one or two pokemon. i thought if i did that i should be overleveled. i was wrong. when i got to them, they wiped the floor with me. i was a bit stupid for getting 2 wailords and no sharpedos. at that time i didnt think anything about types.
     

    Jimmyray

    Bish Bash Bosh
    563
    Posts
    16
    Years
  • Roxanne's Nosepass used to grind my gears, I also remember Norman's Slaking causing problems
     
    483
    Posts
    11
    Years
    • Seen Oct 2, 2020
    Since I don't use a set team, the gym leaders' strategies aren't much of an issue. I rotate through pokemon constantly, and for gym battles, I put together a team specifically for that gym, so I always have multiple ways of dealing with something if one doesn't work (which got me through Tate and Liza fine). The only things that pose a problem are individual pokemon who are good enough on their own that they're a challenge even though I'm prepared for them. Of those, the toughest is probably Juan's Kingdra, followed closely by Wallace's Milotic, so that's my vote. Norman's Slaking isn't far behind though.
     
    7
    Posts
    11
    Years
    • Seen Oct 27, 2013
    Tate & Liza, then Norman is a close second (or third...). Lunatone and Solrock whopped my ass a bunch of times until I was able to beat them, and Slaking gave me a really hard time too.
     
    39
    Posts
    11
    Years
    • Seen Jun 12, 2014
    Tate And Liza. All the Way. I can't count the number of times I had to fight them before I won. Unless you bothered to pick up a Duskull or a Mudkip at the beginning, you really couldn't fight against them
     
    2
    Posts
    11
    Years
    • Seen May 25, 2013
    The third gym (Wattson) was really annoying.. he kept using Shock Wave all over again.. I mean, he used it nine times in a row. Even worse, every time I changed my Pokémon, it didn't even get the chance to strike against him..
     

    Zorogami

    WUB WUB
    2,164
    Posts
    11
    Years
  • Tate & Liza were in my opinion the hardest Gym Leaders. Both their pokemon had a way higher Level than mine at that time and they always teamed up on one of my pokemon.
    Since i always pick Torchic, these guys were always extra hard for me
     

    Torrentblade

    Bring on the flood.
    31
    Posts
    11
    Years
    • Seen Sep 19, 2013
    I would say Wallace, it is hard taking out all water types with all water types....
     

    Demon Days

    Element of Magic
    177
    Posts
    11
    Years
  • Tate and Liza.
    I usually pick Torchic for 3rd Gen runs (and it's my second favorite Pokémon, so...), which ends up with me usually struggling against dem Earthquakes.
     
    10
    Posts
    11
    Years
    • Seen Jul 8, 2023
    No matter what starter I pick, Winona actually gives me a ton of trouble. Her Altaria is just...ugh.

    Watson is sometimes tough, as is Norman.

    Tate and Liza are only tough in Emerald. :P
     

    Golden Warrior

    Pokemon Professor
    375
    Posts
    12
    Years
  • For me Tate and Lisa were absolute pushovers, but Flannery knocked my team flat multiple times in my last run, it got annoying.
     

    disciplish

    supreme meme machine
    880
    Posts
    11
    Years
  • Tate and Liza were pretty damn hard back when I played Emerald my first time. Probably cause my team revolved around my starter and my legend lol. When I actually put in strategy and effort they were all pretty easy, 'cept Norman. That damn Slaking.
     

    JustChillin810

    xX_ElectricPikachu_Xx
    31
    Posts
    11
    Years
  • I would have to agree with SlitWeaver Norman was by far the hardest for me because of his Slaking as well. Its defense was indestructible and I always had a balanced team with a lot of speed so it took all of my pokémon out with only about two shots.
     
    Last edited:
    52
    Posts
    13
    Years
    • Age 25
    • Seen Apr 4, 2022
    WOW. Where to start. Well, for me, "Daddy" is the hardest, Slaking with that Yawn and high defense... *shivers* But all of them had their own strengths, and the difficulty is really based on who you have on your team. Even with Treecko Roxanne's Nosepass was hard. Then Wattson the Magnemite/Magneton's typing made it difficult since I didn't have anyone strong for fighting against him. Tate and Liza were actually easy, seeing I'd carry a Mightyena and Sceptile for a Bite/Leaf Blade combo.
     
    Back
    Top