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Chocolate™

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    Lucario (Mega-Lucario)@Lucarionite
    Nature: Adamant.
    Ability: Inner Focus.
    EVs: 252 HP, 252 attack, 4 speed.
    Moves:

    Earthquake.
    ExtremeSpeed.
    Power-up Punch.
    Blaze Kick.

    The story is simple. Lucario mega evolves and goes for Power Up Punch. It leaves Bastidoon with one HP and Bastidoon uses Stone Edge which does around 30%. Lucario then cleans up with any of his moves.
     
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    Gliscor @ Toxic Orb
    Ability: Poison Heal
    EVs: 252 Def / 252 HP / 4 Spd
    Impish Nature
    - Earthquake
    - Protect
    - Roost
    - Toxic

    It doesn't have to worry about any of Lucario's attacks, as it has enough bulk to endure them. With a couple of Earthquakes, Gliscor should be able to take it down without any sort of trouble. If its health is ever low, it could recover itself instantly with Roost.
     

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    -Cloyster w/Focus Sash
    Nature: Jolly
    Ability: Skill Link
    EVs: 252 Attack, 252 Speed, 4 HP
    Moves: Icicle Spear, Rock Blast, Shell Smash, Razor Shell

    Gliscor only 4HKOs Cloyster:
    0 Atk Gliscor Earthquake vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Cloyster: 61-73 (25.2 - 30.1%) -- guaranteed 4HKO

    And it doesn't even need to Shell Smash in order to destory Gliscor with Icicle Spear.
     

    Tyrael

    This is a Sailor's Prayer
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    Cresselia @ Light Clay
    Trait: Levitate
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpA
    - Psychic
    - Ice Beam
    - Reflect
    - Light Screen

    252 Atk Cloyster Icicle Spear (5 hits) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Cresselia: 110-135 (24.7 - 30.4%) -- approx. 100% chance to 4HKO
    252 Atk Cloyster Icicle Spear (5 hits) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Cresselia through Reflect: 55-65 (12.3 - 14.6%) -- possible 7HKO

    4 SpA Cresselia Psychic vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Cloyster: 144-171 (59.5 - 70.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

    Cress can easily come in and tank two Icicle Spears from Cloyster while it sets up Reflect then 2HKO's back with Psychic. Could also just come in and not set screens up and save itself a bit of HP.
     
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    Chandelure (F) @ Choice Scarf
    Ability: Shadow Tag
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spe
    Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
    • Shadow Ball
    • Fire Blast
    • Energy Ball
    • Hidden Power Ice

    Locks Cresselia onto the field with Shadow Tag, then wrecks it with a couple of Shadow Balls.

    252 SpA Chandelure Shadow Ball vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Cresselia: 228-270 (51.3 - 60.8%) -- 91% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

    4 SpA Cresselia Ice Beam vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Chandelure: 28-33 (10.7 - 12.6%) -- possible 8HKO
    4 SpA Cresselia Psychic vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Chandelure: 84-100 (32.1 - 38.3%) -- 96.9% chance to 3HKO
     

    KKJ

    Abominations of mankind
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    Mega-Garchomp @ Garchompite
    Ability : Sand Force
    EVs: 100 HP /252 Att / 52 Sp.de / 100 Spe (Not ideal but still )
    Moves:
    Earthquake
    Stone Edge
    Iron Head
    Outrage

    252 Atk Mega Garchomp Earthquake vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Chandelure: 438-516 (167.1 - 196.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO
    252+ SpA Chandelure Hidden Power Ice vs. 100 HP / 52 SpD Mega Garchomp: 312-368 (81.6 - 96.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
     
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  • Mega-Garchomp @ Garchompite
    Ability : Sand Force
    EVs: 100 HP /252 Att / 52 Sp.de / 100 Spe (Not ideal but still )
    Moves:
    Earthquake
    Stone Edge
    Iron Head
    Outrage

    252 Atk Mega Garchomp Earthquake vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Chandelure: 438-516 (167.1 - 196.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO
    252+ SpA Chandelure Hidden Power Ice vs. 100 HP / 52 SpD Mega Garchomp: 312-368 (81.6 - 96.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

    Mega Garchomp can't outspeed Choice Scarfed Chandelure. It takes over 80% damage from HP Ice on the turn it switches in and gets KO'd on the following turn. So that's a check, not a counter.

    Bronzong @ Leftovers
    Trait: Levitate
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SAtk
    Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
    - Gyro Ball
    - Earthquake
    - Stealth Rock
    - Hidden Power [Ice]

    Bronzong resists Stone Edge, Iron Head and Outrage thanks to its Steel typing. Levitate makes it immune to Earthquake.

    252 Atk Mega Garchomp Outrage vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Bronzong: 78-92 (23 - 27.2%) -- possible 5HKO after Leftovers recovery

    4 SpA Bronzong Hidden Power Ice vs. 100 HP / 52 SpD Mega Garchomp: 144-172 (37.6 - 45%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
     

    Chocolate™

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    Magnezone@Air Balloon
    Trait: Magnet pull.
    Nature: Modest.
    EVs: 252 special attack, 252 speed, 4 special defense.
    Moves:

    Hidden Power Fire.
    Thunder Bolt.
    Flash Cannon.
    Magnet Rise.

    This set was made to destroy Bronzong. Magnezone easilyout speeds Bronzong and uses Magnet Rise. Bronzong uses Earthquake and sadly misses. Then within four turns the match is up.

    4 special Atk Bronzong Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 4 special Def Magnezone: 11-16 (3.1-4.5%) -- One of the worst moves ever.

    252+ SPA Magnezone Hidden Power Fire vs. 242 HP / 0 SpD Bronzong: 112-124 (35-37%) -- guaranteed 4HKO

    Note: These are not the actual figures. But they are around the smae number.
     
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  • Camerupt (F) @ Life Orb
    Trait: Solid Rock
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 SAtk / 4 SDef
    Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
    - Earth Power
    - Eruption
    - Will-O-Wisp
    - Hidden Power [Grass]

    Magnezone gets OHKOd by Eruption.
     

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    -Swanna w/Life Orb
    Nature: Timid
    Ability: Hydration
    EVs: 252 Sp.Attack, 252 Speed, 4 Defense
    Moves: Surf, Hurricane, Roost, Rain Dance

    Can take a full power Eruption and live, then outspeeds and OHKOs with Surf.
     

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    -Swanna w/Life Orb
    Nature: Timid
    Ability: Hydration
    EVs: 252 Sp.Attack, 252 Speed, 4 Defense
    Moves: Surf, Hurricane, Roost, Rain Dance

    Time for another Lanturn build! (I am starting to love this guy)

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    Lanturn @ Assault Vest
    Ability: Water Absorb
    Nature: Modest (+SAtk, -Atk)
    EVs: 252 SAtk, 130 HP, 128 SDef

    Thunder
    Signal Beam
    Hidden Power (Grass)
    Scald

    Absorbs the Surf and OHKO with Thunder. Able to take a Hurricane due to a good, natural Special Defense (+EV) with Assault Vest, and resistance.
     

    Opposite Day

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    EDIT: I HATE THESE THINGS

    but hell, if there is anything kec is it is flexible:

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    Kecleon @ Leftovers
    Ability: Protean
    EV's: 248 HP / 8 Att / 252 SpD
    Careful Nature (+SDef, -SpA)
    - Recover
    - Facade
    - Sucker Punch
    - Dig (lol)

    Has to be careful (heheheh) to avoid the burn from scald, but since burn no longer drops your attack if you use Facade, Kec doesn't care too much either way.
    Status Facade is a 2hko, Dig is a 2hko (though it is most likely wiser to alternate between sucker punch and recover to be fair)

    Lanturn vs Kec:
    Scald 19.7 - 23.4%
    Thunder 27.1 - 32.4%
    Ice Beam 15.1 - 17.9%

    will the REAL "showing off long body-parts to gain attention" pokemon please stand up
     
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    -Tyrantrum w/Air Balloon
    Nature: Adamant
    Ability: Strong Jaw (when are they gonna release Rock Head for it?)
    EVs: 252 Attack, 252 Speed, 4 HP
    Moves: Stone Edge, Earthquake, Dragon Dance, Ice Fang

    Air Balloon is there for Dig and such. All of Kecleon's other attacks only 4HKO at best, while Tyrantrum's Stone Edge is an easy 2HKO. Earthquake will have a chance to OHKO if Kecleon is Digging.
     

    Tyrael

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    Mega Medicham @ Medichamite
    Trait: Pure Power
    Jolly Nature
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
    - Drain Punch
    - Ice Punch
    - Psycho Cut
    - Bullet Punch

    252+ Atk Tyrantrum Earthquake vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Mega Medicham: 130-154 (49.6 - 58.7%) -- 99.6% chance to 2HKO
    252+ Atk Strong Jaw Tyrantrum Ice Fang vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Mega Medicham: 127-150 (48.4 - 57.2%) -- 94.1% chance to 2HKO
    252+ Atk Tyrantrum Stone Edge vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Mega Medicham: 97-115 (37 - 43.8%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

    252 Atk Pure Power Mega Medicham Drain Punch vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Tyrantrum: 354-416 (115.6 - 135.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO

    Can easily come in and tank a hit, then OHKO back with Drain Punch. Would even gain back a good chunk of HP in the process! :D
     
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    Scizor @ Scizorite
    Ability: Technician
    Nature: Adamant
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SDef
    - Superpower
    - U-Turn
    - Bullet Punch
    - Pursuit

    Should be able to take a couple of hits from Medicham, then knock it out with Bullet Punch.

    252+ Atk Technician Mega Scizor Bullet Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mega Medicham: 138-163 (52.8 - 62.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

    252 Atk Pure Power Mega Medicham Ice Punch vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mega Scizor: 51-60 (14.8 - 17.4%) -- possible 6HKO
    252 Atk Pure Power Mega Medicham Psycho Cut vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mega Scizor: 72-84 (20.9 - 24.4%) -- guaranteed 5HKO
    252 Atk Pure Power Mega Medicham Drain Punch vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mega Scizor: 153-181 (44.4 - 52.6%) -- 21.5% chance to 2HKO
     

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    -Talonflame w/Life Orb
    Nature: Adamant
    Ability: Gale Wings
    EVs: 92 HP, 252 Attack, 164 Speed
    Moves: Flare Blitz, Brave Bird, U-Turn, Roost

    Enter Talonflame, the slightly suicidal fire bird that is on every other team you face. Pursuit and Superpower from Mega Scizor only 3HKO, and what happens when Flare Blitz is used is obvious.
     

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  • Rhyperior @ Leftovers
    Ability: Solid Rock
    EVs: 252 Atk / 252 HP / 4 SDef
    Adamant Nature
    - Rock Slide
    - Earthquake
    - Hammer Arm
    - Megahorn

    Do I even need to explain this one?
     
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    Vaporeon (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Water Absorb
    EVs: 252 HP / 4 SAtk / 252 Def
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
    - Scald
    - Wish
    - Ice Beam
    - Protect

    4 SpA Vaporeon Scald vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Solid Rock Rhyperior: 453-534 (104.3 - 123%) -- guaranteed OHKO

    252+ Atk Rhyperior Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Vaporeon: 186-220 (40 - 47.4%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
    252+ Atk Rhyperior Rock Slide vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Vaporeon: 141-166 (30.3 - 35.7%) -- guaranteed 4HKO after Leftovers recovery
    252+ Atk Rhyperior Megahorn vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Vaporeon: 149-176 (32.1 - 37.9%) -- 0.5% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
    252+ Atk Rhyperior Hammer Arm vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Vaporeon: 124-147 (26.7 - 31.6%) -- 27.8% chance to 4HKO after Leftovers recovery
     

    Tyrael

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    Mega Venusaur @ Venusaurite
    Trait: Thick Fat
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 SpD
    - Giga Drain
    - Sludge Bomb
    - Protect
    - Synthesis

    4 SpA Vaporeon Scald vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Mega Venusaur: 40-48 (10.9 - 13.1%) -- possible 8HKO
    4 SpA Vaporeon Ice Beam vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Thick Fat Mega Venusaur: 60-72 (16.4 - 19.7%) -- possible 6HKO

    252+ SpA Mega Venusaur Giga Drain vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Vaporeon: 270-320 (58.1 - 68.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

    Easily takes all of Vap's hits and 2HKO's back with Giga Drain.
     

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  • Metagross @ Assault Vest
    Ability: Clear Body
    EVs: 252 Atk / 252 HP / 4 SDef
    Adamant Nature
    - Meteor Mash
    - Earthquake
    - Zen Headbutt
    - Pursuit

    Either is immune or resists all of Megasaur's attacks and can strike back with a super effective Zen Headbutt.
     
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