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  • Scrafty @ Life Orb/Lum berry
    Jolly Nature, Shed Skin

    -Dragon Dance
    -Drain Punch/Hi jump kick
    -Crunch
    -Ice Punch

    Scrafty doesn't fear Chansey's Seismic toss and in return dish out huge damage with Drain punch while healing half as much HP which is huge.

    252 Atk Life Orb Scrafty Drain Punch vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Chansey: 330-390 (46.87 - 55.39%) -- 74.22% chance to 2HKO with Life Orb
    252 Atk Scrafty Hi Jump Kick vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Chansey: 440-518 (62.5 - 73.57%) -- guaranteed 2HKO with Lum berry

    Scrafty's Shed skin means Toxic isn't a huge problem, even more so if it carries Lum berry. Scrafty can get free Dragon dance with correct predictions which will make him even harder to stop.

    Edit: Ninja'd -.- But I think this still walls it so I'll edit some calculations.
    Edit2: I just finished changing my post to accommodate the above post which he deleted for some mysterious reason -.- I'm still keeping this up because same Scrafty still owns Blissey in the 2 posts above.
     
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    Dark Azelf

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    Heracross@Choice Band
    6 Hp / 252 Atk / 252 Speed
    Adamant Nature
    Trait: Guts
    - Close Combat
    - Megahorn
    - Stone Edge
    - Night Slash

    Lives everything whilst resisting both stab moves and returns the KO.
     
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  • Keldeo @C. Scarf/Specs
    Modest/Timid, Justified

    Hydro Pump
    Secret Sword
    HP Ghost
    Surf
    4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Speed

    Can take down a +1 Scrafty, and can out speed based on natures. With Scrafy not using Zen Headbutt, Scrafty isn't even a threat to Keldeo, unless he gets a crit.
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    Ambipom @ Life Orb
    Adamant, Technician
    - Fake Out
    - U-Turn
    - Aerial Ace
    - Shadow Claw
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    Possibly one of the less conventional sets, Fakeout, for strong damage, U-turn to switch out incase of a switch it, Aerial Ace for fighting types, and S. Claw to counter the predicted chadelure .... Coffagarus would be a problem with this set <_<; as it is heavily reliant on technician
     
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  • Aggron
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    -Head Smash
    -Heavy Slam
    -Earthquake
    -Aqua Tail/Fire Punch
    Nature: Adamant
    EVs: 116 HP/252 Atk/140 Spe
    Item: Choice Band
    Ability: Rock Head

    Since Ambipom isn't using Low Sweep or Low Kick, Aggron can come in safely, resisting any move Ambipom throws at it and threaten it out with Head Smash or Heavy Slam.
     

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    Keldeo @C. Scarf/Specs
    Modest/Timid, Justified

    Hydro Pump
    Secret Sword
    HP Ghost
    Surf
    4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Speed

    Can take down a +1 Scrafty, and can out speed based on natures. With Scrafy not using Zen Headbutt, Scrafty isn't even a threat to Keldeo, unless he gets a crit.
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    Ambipom @ Life Orb
    Adamant, Technician
    - Fake Out
    - U-Turn
    - Aerial Ace
    - Shadow Claw
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    Possibly one of the less conventional sets, Fakeout, for strong damage, U-turn to switch out incase of a switch it, Aerial Ace for fighting types, and S. Claw to counter the predicted chadelure ....
    Coffagarus would be a problem with this set <_<; as it is heavily reliant on technician

    Ambipom as a Heracross COUNTER? Seriously? >____> Good luck switching in, i mean taking 600% from Close Combat isnt that much. ._.

    Aggron
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    -Head Smash
    -Heavy Slam
    -Earthquake
    -Aqua Tail/Fire Punch
    Nature: Adamant
    EVs: 116 HP/252 Atk/140 Spe
    Item: Choice Band
    Ability: Rock Head

    Since Ambipom isn't using Low Sweep or Low Kick, Aggron can come in safely, resisting any move Ambipom throws at it and threaten it out with Head Smash or Heavy Slam.

    Poliwrath@Leftovers
    Relaxed Nature
    252 HP / 216 Def / 40 Sp.Atk
    Trait: Water Absorb
    - Circle Throw
    - Scald
    - Rest
    - Sleep Talk

    Resists Aggrons whole moveset bar Earthquake which 4hko's most of the time. Scald and Circle throw in return waste Aggron.
     
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  • Ambipom as a Heracross COUNTER? Seriously? >____> Good luck switching in, i mean taking 600% from Close Combat isnt that much. ._.
    revenge kill .. unless it was scarfed.

    Rotom @ Leftovers
    Levitate
    ~ Thunderbolt
    ~ Shadow Ball
    ~ Will-O-Wisp
    ~ Pain Split
    180 HP / 252 Def / 76 Spe

    It can burn the Poliwrath (long as it doesn't have a sub), Thunderbolt it, and pain split off damage.
     
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    Lazer

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    Drifblim @ Flame Orb
    Trait: Flare Boost
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
    Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
    - Psychic
    - Shadow Ball
    - Thunderbolt
    - Hidden Power [Fighting]
    Resists Circle Throws, and it's already burned and has a high enough HP to switch into Scalds. Throw a Thunderbolt at it and that Poliwrath should be done.

    Post ninja'd, currently editing.

    Krookodile (M) @ Choice Band
    Trait: Moxie
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Crunch
    - Earthquake
    - Stone Edge
    - Fire Fang
    It's immune Thunderbolt and resistant to Shadow Ball. Crunch should be able to defeat Rotom backed by a Choice Band and possibly some Moxie boosts.
     
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    Krookodile is not very ideal since it gets severely crippled by burn, but it's good enough.

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    Tangrowth @ Leftovers
    Regenerator
    252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SAtk
    Bold Nature
    - Giga Drain
    - Hidden Power Ice
    - Sleep Powder
    - Leech Seed​

    252+ Atk Choice Band Krookodile Fire Fang vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Tangrowth: 136-160 (33.66 - 39.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Stealth Rock
    4 SpA Tangrowth Giga Drain vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Krookodile: 236-278 (71.29 - 83.98%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock

    Fire Fang 3HKOes, but Giga Drain and Leftovers recovery should be enough to prevent that.
     
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  • Darmanitan @ Life Orb
    Sheer force, Adamant Nature
    252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

    - Flare Blitz
    - Rock Slide
    - Superpower
    - U-turn

    Can take anything Tangrowth throws at it and KO it with STAB flare blitz.
     

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    Milotic (F) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Marvel Scale
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Spd
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
    - Scald
    - Recover
    - Ice Beam
    - Dragon Tail
    It can take all of Darmanitan's moves and Scald+Recover until Darmanitan faints.
     

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    Rotom-W@Choice Specs
    128 HP / 252 S.Atk / 128 Speed
    Modest Nature
    - Volt Switch
    - Hydro Pump
    - Hidden Power [Fire]
    - Trick

    Resists the whole set and can either Volt Switch or Trick it.

    revenge kill .. unless it was scarfed.

    Yeah but this is about countering only. It cant switch in so its not a counter.
     
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  • Gastrodon@Leftovers
    Storm Drain
    252 HP / 84 Def / 172 SpD
    Calm Nature
    ~ Toxic
    ~ Scald
    ~ Ice Beam
    ~ Recover

    not necessarily a counter, but it defiantly walls Rotom-W. Voltswitch, and hydro pump are ineffective, even if Gastro is burned it can toxic stall the rotom with recover.
     
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    Tentacruel @ Life Orb
    Rain Dish
    4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spe
    Timid Nature
    - Hydro Pump
    - Sludge Bomb
    - Ice Beam
    - Giga Drain​

    252 SpA Life Orb Tentacruel Giga Drain vs. 252 HP / 172+ SpD Gastrodon: 276-328 (64.78 - 76.99%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
    0 SpA Gastrodon Scald vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Tentacruel: 34-41 (11.25 - 13.57%) -- 9HKO at best

    Yessssssss.
     

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    Tentacruel @ Life Orb
    Rain Dish
    4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spe
    Timid Nature
    - Hydro Pump
    - Sludge Bomb
    - Ice Beam
    - Giga Drain​

    252 SpA Life Orb Tentacruel Giga Drain vs. 252 HP / 172+ SpD Gastrodon: 276-328 (64.78 - 76.99%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
    0 SpA Gastrodon Scald vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Tentacruel: 34-41 (11.25 - 13.57%) -- 9HKO at best

    Yessssssss.


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    Regice @ Leftovers
    Clear Body
    248 HP / 252 SpA / 8 Spe
    Modest Nature
    - Rest
    - Sleep Talk
    - Ice Beam
    - Thunderbolt

    252 SpA Life Orb Tentacruel Hydro Pump vs. 248 HP / 0 SpD Regice: 99-118 (27.27 - 32.5%) -- possible 4HKO
    252+ SpA Regice Thunderbolt vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Tentacruel: 162-192 (53.82 - 63.78%) -- guaranteed 2HKO


    Who ever said Ice was a horrible defensive typing?
     

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    Mamoswine (M) @ Life Orb
    Trait: Thick Fat
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Superpower
    - Icicle Crash
    - Ice Shard
    - Earthquake

    Mamoswine can take its Ice Beams and resists Thunderbolts. A Superpower should be able to defeat Regice.
     

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    Bronzong@Chesto Berry
    252 HP / 216 Def / 40 S.Atk
    Bold Nature
    Trait: Levitate
    - Calm Mind
    - Rest
    - Psychic
    - Hidden Power [Fighting]

    Yeah switches in, CM's Up and whacks around mamoswine. Resists its whole set also bar superpower which it can easily tank.
     
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    Murkrow @ Eviolite
    Prankster
    248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SDef
    Bold Nature
    - Dark Pulse
    - Calm Mind
    - Roost
    - Taunt​
    +1 40 SpA Bronzong Hidden Power Fighting vs. 248 HP / 8 SpD Eviolite Murkrow: 85-100 (26.31 - 30.95%)
    +1 40 SpA Bronzong Hidden Power Fighting vs. +1 248 HP / 8 SpD Eviolite Murkrow: 56-67 (17.33 - 20.74%)
    +1 40 SpA Bronzong Hidden Power Fighting vs. +2 248 HP / 8 SpD Eviolite Murkrow: 43-51 (13.31 - 15.78%)
    +1 40 SpA Bronzong Hidden Power Fighting vs. +2 248 HP / 8 SpD Eviolite Murkrow: 86-102 (26.62 - 31.57%) (while Roosting)
    +6 0 SpA Murkrow Dark Pulse vs. +1 252 HP / 0 SpD Bronzong: 177-208 (52.36 - 61.53%) -- 96.88% chance to 2HKO

    u lose
     

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    Lucario@Choice Band
    252 Atk / 252 Speed / 6 HP
    Adamant Nature
    Trait: Justified
    - Close Combat
    - Extremespeed
    - Crunch
    - Ice Punch

    Noob krow cant Roost or it gets massacred by CC. Also, 4x resists Dark Pulse. :)
     

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    Qwilfish @ Leftovers
    Intimidate
    252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Spe
    Impish Nature
    - Spikes
    - Waterfall
    - Pain Split
    - Thunder Wave / Taunt
    -1 252+ Atk Choice Band Lucario Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Qwilfish: 83-98 (24.85 - 29.34%) -- guaranteed 5HKO

    SPIKE SPIKE SPIKE

    or, assuming that it switches into Lucario's most powerful move against it, Luke outspeeds it and hits it twice, which means

    0 Atk Qwilfish Waterfall vs. -2 4 HP / 0 Def Lucario: 220-261 (78.01 - 92.55%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

    ouch.
     

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    Manectric (M) @ Air Balloon
    Trait: Static
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
    Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
    - Thunderbolt
    - Flamethrower
    - Hidden Power [Grass]
    - Volt Switch
    Qwilfish has pretty low special defense, and since it's all invested into defense, a Thunderbolt from Manetric can easily defeat it, and it also receives a boost from Lightningrod when hit by Thunder Wave. Manetric can also out speed Qwilfish.
     
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