4th Gen 4th Gen Help Thread

Being an online competitive battler and also playing through the fourth generation I have to say, it depends! In-game wise, I would advise that you don't fret over your Pokemon's nature too much seeing as it only makes a small impact. However competitively natures do make a great difference surprisingly. Let's take a look at a Pokemon with a Relaxed nature. Relaxed raises Defense and lowers Speed, yes? Lugia has fantastic defenses and the added boost makes it incredibly bulky, which is always great. However the speed factor, we need to look at. Speed, speed, speed. This stat can make all the difference on who moves first. Lugia is naturally bulky and can take a few good hits, so unless you're really upset about being outspeeded and taking a bit of damage I'd say that Relaxed is a good nature, seeing as the speed drop shouldn't matter too much, in my opinion. n__n;

No. Relaxed isn't a good nature on Lugia at all. Lugia is extremely fast for a wall and wasting away that Speed is just detrimental. Lugia needs it high base 110 Speed to outspeed other walls so that it can do whatever it has to do before it gets Taunted.

It's a shiny though, I think the speed is not to bad it's 150 for level 70 but because of being relaxed nature it boosts defense and it also has good Ivs for defense I think (capable of taking hits)

I've finally beaten the Elite Four and Cynthia in Platinum (yay!), and am now in what I think is the Survival Area--near Routes 229-230. Could someone please point me to a walk-through for that area? I'm having trouble reaching the item in this screenshot...

ISNorden said:

I've finally beaten the Elite Four and Cynthia in Platinum (yay!), and am now in what I think is the Survival Area--near Routes 229-230. Could someone please point me to a walk-through for that area? I'm having trouble reaching the item in this screenshot...

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On the other side of where you are, if you can see the rock, there is a cut tree under it, just cut it down and collect the item.

Where the heck is that tree?

vaporeon7 said:

On the other side of where you are, if you can see the rock, there is a cut tree under it, just cut it down and collect the item.

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How do I spot the tree? The usual "face the rock and press A" method revealed nothing; will the Dowsing app (which I've seldom needed) be any help?

EDIT: I tried the Dowsing app, clicking just east of my location (where the rock would be); the tree is still unrevealed. :(

ISNorden said:

How do I spot the tree? The usual "face the rock and press A" method revealed nothing; will the Dowsing app (which I've seldom needed) be any help?

EDIT: I tried the Dowsing app, clicking just east of my location (where the rock would be); the tree is still unrevealed. :(

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The tile one tile down from the rock, there is a cut tree, it is just hidden by the big tree down from it.

Is magickarp worth it?

I recently restarted pearl. And was wondering. IS it worth it to train magikarp to garydos? Or no?

You can't really go wrong with Gyarados. It has great bulk and very high attack, and it learns very useful moves such as Ice Fang, Aqua Tail and Dragon Dance, plus lots more through TM, Earthquake for example.

Evolving at Lv. 20 is actually quite early, it will definitely prove an asset to your team. ^_^

If you have an exp. share, absolutely. As mentioned, Gyarados is a beast. But if you don't, I'm not sure I have the patience to put it into battle and take it out right away, over and over.

Yeah, that's the obvious downside with Magikarp. You could work around this however, simply by not capturing a Magikarp lower than Lv. 19. Relatively early in the game, at Route 209, you get the Good Rod, capable of capturing Magikarp as high as lv. 25.

He's always a staple in my early parties. Just grind early on with him, switching magikarp out. The patience brings a nice reward.

Yes, and if you wanted to, you could've just used Exp. Share on it, and get it to a high level. I got Gyarados to level 100, but you could wait til a later game to get it a high level so it can learn better moves along the way.

Yes, I always use Gyarados as my Water type. I just use a Exp.Share or give it to the daycare when training it since it's quite troublesome to train as it only learns splash tackle and flail. :3

Ok I'm trying to get a houndour with the egg move sucker punch, I have a male rattata with that move and a female hondour in the DC but the the hatched egg is not picking up the move, why?

I wasn't ever particularly good with knowing what to do when breeding, but after looking around a little I've figured out the problem. Houndour can get the Egg Move Sucker Punch in only Gen V, not Gen IV. In Gen IV it can't so that's why you're not getting Sucker Punch even though you're doing the breeding egg move method right. However, Houndour can still learn Sucker Punch from a Move Tutor in Gen IV, so you can always go to the Move Tutor as well and learn it! :)

Where is the move tutor? I still have the 2 in the DC but will breed on my 5th gen. game no matter.

You can find the Move Tutor who teaches Sucker Punch on Route 212 in Platinum exclusively! In D/P however if you go to the same location you'll just find a lady who used to work in the Weather Institute in Hoenn. The Move Tutor will teach you moves for shards and yeah, hope this helped! :>

Moving to the 4th Gen Help Thread. Simple questions belong in that thread, so please post any future questions there.

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Moving to the 4th Gen Help Thread. Simple questions belong in that thread, so please post any future questions there.

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Sorry Curious, I clicked the 4th gen. help link at the top of the page, if this needed to be moved you may need to check into that and delete this post.