RSE Remake Speculation Thread

[Dmatt]

Also, the number 2 in the boxes has this little texture that matches Groudon/Kyogre being red and blue, as well, for each of the games... It was a neat decoy, with all the fans wanting a R/S remake/sequel or whatever, but it all ended up being nothing... Or was it?

I really love, as you point out, how many features and details were implemented into this games, that somehow "bound" Black and White with Ruby and Sapphire. The sad part is I really, really doubt they're going to release a proper game. But at least they gave us this.

[Keiran777]

It's called rehashing content, it happens in every video game series. There are no definite "hints" to remakes in BW2, most of the things people come up with make no logical sense anyway. There is a thread about RSE remake speculations/"hints" in Pokemon General.

[XanderO]

Merging with the RS Remake discussion in PGC...

TTwTT Lost my earlier post discussing this...may try to rewrite it when I get off work.

[JollyRoger25]

Ya know I like the idea of a Ruby and Sapphire remake, but what I would really like is a hand-held version of XD gale of Darkness. Not even a remake, just a new game with Orre in it.

[Magmaruby and Aquasapphire]

I doubt they would make a sequel to RS. So far the only games I see having direct sequels Gen V style are DP.

[Haza]

I feel like Hoenn isn't as classic as Kanto/Johto to even deserve a remake... even though it is my favorite region, I just don't feel like it left the mark that the original two did with the general public. Maybe it's just me though...

[Emrald]

Originally Posted by Haza

I feel like Hoenn isn't as classic as Kanto/Johto to even deserve a remake... even though it is my favorite region, I just don't feel like it left the mark that the original two did with the general public. Maybe it's just me though...

When people think of Hoenn, they think of the Advanced Generation and how exotic the Pokemon were. Its a different land far from Johto and Kanto, making it a underrated generation.

Now, that people have come to terms with the far awayness of other Regions, Hoenn has become the fan favorite region.

While, I agree it is not a classic, because it presented brand new ideas that we were unfamiliar with, it still kept to the old traditions of the older generations minus the day/night system. Its where many current Pokemon fans come from, to them Hoenn is the classic generation, because they never got to experience the older games that included Kanto and Johto. (And yes I know FRLG brough back Kanto, but that's part of Generation 3)

Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire

I doubt they would make a sequel to RS. So far the only games I see having direct sequels Gen V style are DP.

That's true, Cyrus is still looking to create his brand new universe, and where ever he ended up, he's most likely made a brand new Team Galactic.

Originally Posted by scprepschool

Now to the point i wanna make and share. There is a ton of r/s tiles in black and white 2. A huge amount it just overwhelms me how brilliant it is. Heres the ones ive noticed and some others that i i am guessing.

Reversal mountain- groudon and kyogre respective lairs
Strange house- i am guessing the inside tiles can be the inside tiles that are in the stranded hip
Humilua- pacifidlog town
The plasma frigate- the inside tiles kind of remind me of the space center in r/s
Lentimas town- that route after the mountain lift cart
the route near the seaside cave also reminds me of the r/s route to victory rd

I just thought this was interesting. It may also point out a earlier release to a r/s revamp than some might expect.
Now is there any maps you guys have noticed in bw2 that are similar to rse?

Ok, so I did find it weird about Reversal mountain, theirs absolutely no point but to show the differences between Black and White version. Truly it makes no sense to me, Heatran in Black 2 just doesn't go with a water themed cave. But in White 2 he does, because its a lava filled cave.

Strange house, I found nothing really related to Hoenn. At all. Its just a continuation of the story from where that one little girl disappeared from Marvelous bridge.

Himilua town is very much similar to Pacifidlog town which I found a bit suprising why they would add a water town and gym.

The Plasma Frigate, its just the frigate owned by Team Plasma, its their mobile base, it may have similar tilesets with the Moss Deep Space Center but that's it. I don't really see anything there, however, when I was there in the aftergame, a Team Plasma member did say: "The Sky sure is Vast." I thought that was pretty interesting thing to say.

Lentimas Town is a town made out of Adobe structures. The only thing I find similar between Lentimas Town and Hoenn is that both Lentimas and Lavridge are right by a Volcano.

The route to seaside cave, I don't see much similarity between Hoenns sea route to Victory Road and Seaside caves water route, besides the small push to the right of the route and then the push up north, in which case it does look somewhat similar to Hoenns, except without the waterfall, and the only reason I say somewhat is because the route to the north is short just like it is in Hoenn.

These are great findings by the way. I don't think anyone has payed much attention to these.

[Magmaruby and Aquasapphire]

I noticed that Team Plasma's two plans are somewhat similar to Magma and Aqua's. N wanted to make a better world for Pokemon just how M and A wanted to make a better world for their pokemon of choice. While Ghetsis wanted to freeze over Unova similar to how M and A activated a drought and a flood over Hoenn. In a way it seems like Ghetsis got his latest idea from M and A which makes no sense as why would he freeze over what he wanted to rule...GF logic. Unless of course it's a reference to the weather Teams (M and A) of Hoenn.

When the remakes come I hope they give Archie more water Pokemon...he only had one and if irc it had no water moves at all...

[XanderO]

Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire

I noticed that Team Plasma's two plans are somewhat similar to Magma and Aqua's. N wanted to make a better world for Pokemon just how M and A wanted to make a better world for their pokemon of choice. While Ghetsis wanted to freeze over Unova similar to how M and A activated a drought and a flood over Hoenn. In a way it seems like Ghetsis got his latest idea from M and A which makes no sense as why would he freeze over what he wanted to rule...GF logic. Unless of course it's a reference to the weather Teams (M and A) of Hoenn.

When the remakes come I hope they give Archie more water Pokemon...he only had one and if irc it had no water moves at all...

Ghetsis' new plan was the same as cyrus' plan. Destroy everything and rebuild a utopia afterwards.

[MiTjA]

Originally Posted by Dmatt

Also, the number 2 in the boxes has this little texture that matches Groudon/Kyogre being red and blue, as well, for each of the games... It was a neat decoy, with all the fans wanting a R/S remake/sequel or whatever, but it all ended up being nothing... Or was it?

The details were from Reshiram/Zekroms tails. The color and the pattern..

[Magmaruby and Aquasapphire]

Considering the anime is continuing for some time after the league it proably means this generation isn't over yet. Which could mean we might have another main game (or two if pair) in that time. Why else would the creators of the anime stretch it out? I take it as a hint that gen VI isn't coming just yet.

[LaVida]

Ohhh, I so badly want a R/S/E remake. Now that Black 2 /White 2 have been released, there should be some news regarding new games sooner or later.
How long has it been since Ruby and Sapphire were released in Japan anyway? Isn't it already 10 years or something? Man, they sure need to announce something soon or I'll get hopeless :(

If they do make a remake, I hope they will add some more stuff to do after the Pokemon League, for example, something like the Sevii Islands in Pokemon FR/LG.

[Magmaruby and Aquasapphire]

Hoenn sure has a lot of islands so it's likely. I'll like if they added a piece to the left of Hoenn's map, aka the island of the Embedded tower,ect. Though it won't be the Johto part...unless GF wants to add Johto, I'll be fine with that. If it's for the 3DS it'll fit especially seeing how it's not that big...I'll doubt it though as it'll be a whole chuck of land would make the remakes the games with the most land.

For E4 rematches I'll like it if they gave Sydney Scrufty as it has a similar haircut to his plus it's dark. And Tyranitar just for extra raw power boost.
Phoebe should receive Dusknoir.
Glacia should get Abomasnow to set up blizzard, oh and a Glaceon. People think she's from Sinnoh so having two sinnoh mon's would fit nicely.
Drake should get Hydreigon and Dragonite...that might make his harder than Wallace however...well if Steven is champ the Hoenn league will have all the pseudo legends...

Also give them all themes. Roxanne's will have a lecture hall vibe...elegant music?
Brawly will have wave like sounds.
Wattson would have gears turning.
Flannery will have steam like sounds in her mix.
Norman's would be the same as he's normal like Cheren.
Winnona would have wind chimes...
The Twins would have...I'm not sure...creepy twin music remix? (they aren't creepy however).

Juan would get a elegant, classical remix.

[roosterman]

i was hoping for emerald but if there's going to be any remake, they'll probably make 2 just to get more money, the latis thing is a good point, we may have to wait till the next gen, although i'm still thinking the last 5th gen will be gray with the true form of kyurem

[Suicune™]

Yeah, my first initial thought after B2W2 was announced was that they would go for an Emerald remake but then I realized there would be no version exclusives.

[HyperXhydra]

If the anime actually follows games, probably the next game is Pokemon Grey, because the next saga is about N.

[rocky505]

That means nothing. All they did for HGSS was a little festival about Johto. May caught a Bulbasaur for FRLG, but after emerald came out they put something from it and FRLG together. All they need to do is make an episode based on Hoenn like they did for HGSS.

[Emrald]

I don't think there will be a Pokemon Grey/Gray version. We've been through Unova twice already, and traveling through it all over again for the third time three years in a row in order to get all three legendaries again, would just be redundant. Also, N has not yet appeared in the Anime. So, this will be his first appearance, and he will act like his B1W1 self.

[XanderO]

Originally Posted by Emrald

I don't think there will be a Pokemon Grey/Gray version. We've been through Unova twice already, and traveling through it all over again for the third time three years in a row in order to get all three legendaries again, would just be redundant. Also, N has not yet appeared in the Anime. So, this will be his first appearance, and he will act like his B1W1 self.

The main site said "plasma's old leader" or something to that respect. I think it was the main site not 100% sure though. If it did we can't say which version of N we'll get.

[JamesTehGamer9896]

Ohhh i really hope there is a gen 3 remake, i want it so bad, gen 3 got me into pokemon and i really hope they will make it happen, it will make me a happy trainer

[Magmaruby and Aquasapphire]

A hint for third gen remakes (Kanto included) can be the trio badge from BW, a badge with a Ruby,Sapphire,Emerald with trainers who use Fire, Water, and Grass which were the types of the first three mascots (Japan). Also the trio got replaced by a normal type gym leader, Norman is normal type and lives in the first town, Littleroot town (though he does need to walk to his gym two towns away). Hmm come to think about it Norman himself was like Giovanni, we couldn't battle them until later. Also eighth gym leader is a water gym leader who replaced the old gym. Neo Plasma has a pirate like theme like Aqua. Also the old plasma tried stopping Neo Plasma similar to how Aqua in Ruby, and Magma in Sapphire tried to stop the evil group.

[MiTjA]

Trio badge has the same colour as the starter types, therefore RS remakes.
Okay.


But my favourite "hint" is still the post that said Reshiram and Zekroms names are the initials of the spanish names for RS or something lol

[glitchguy]

In BW there is a guy in Icirrus City that says he was a former Team rocket member and in B2W2 in that same house there are now former members of Team Magma and Aqua.So, that might be a hint to the Gen 3 remakes.

[MiTjA]

Originally Posted by glitchguy

In BW there is a guy in Icirrus City that says he was a former Team rocket member and in B2W2 in that same house there are now former members of Team Magma and Aqua.So, that might be a hint to the Gen 3 remakes.

The Rocket one was at least as much, if not more suspicious than the new ones.

I didn't see anyone saying we will get FRLG remakes before.

[Emrald]

Ok, here is what the former Team Rocket guy says in B1W1: "Oh! Member of Team Rocket I was, long time ago! But Team Rocket bye-bye a go-go. I my region went home. Make new Team Rocket, I did! So myself I pledged! But now I married am. Now for Team Rocket there is no time by me. But happy family is big hooray!"

Now the quotes from the two people from the two people who now live there: "We tried to expand the ocean, but then there would be fewer Pokemon that live on land. That might make the Pokemon in the ocean sad... Oh! This is a secret from my darling husband!" That was the woman who lives in the house.

This is the man's: "We were going to make more land, but we realized it would cause problems for Pokemon living in the sea... Oh! Don't tell my girlfriend!"

Now, there's a third person in the house, but he's the sound designer. If you talk to him you can activate music, which is from another Pokemon game. I'm going to see if there is any similar music in FRLG and RSE.

Ok, after about ten minutes of flying to each city with the Pokemon that remain in both FireRed and Emerald versions, I have found the Sound Designers music it best compares to... It sounds like Sootopolis City to me.