Counter that Pokemon! (READ THE FREAKING FIRST POST)

Ferrothorn@ sticky barb

Ability: anticipation
EVs: def 252 attk 252 sp. def 5
Powerwhip
Flash cannon
Iron defense
Ingrain

LOL flash cannon ferro I'm dying XD

Goodra @ Assault Vest
Ability: Sap Sipper
EVs: 248 HP / 252 SpA / 8 SpD
Modest Nature
- Draco Meteor
- Fire Blast
- Sludge Bomb
- Thunderbolt

Power Whip is absorbed via Sap Sipper, Fire Blast undeniably OHKO's, and Ferrothorn's Flash Cannon damage makes its user quit pokemon.
0 SpA Ferrothorn Flash Cannon vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Assault Vest Goodra: 25-31 (6.5 - 8%) -- possibly the worst move ever

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Also about the "counter" to the mega aggron I posted, I can't help but react:

thebest said:

Flygon@sitrusberry
Ability: levitate
Evs: 252 sp.attk sp. def 252 attk 4
Nature: mild
Earthquake
Dragon dance
Dragon pulse
Sand attack

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Lol your Flygon can't even reliably 4HKO Mega Aggron.
4 Atk Flygon Earthquake vs. 248 HP / 8 Def Filter Mega Aggron: 76-91 (22.1 - 26.5%) -- 20% chance to 4HKO

Meanwhile, 0 Atk Mega Aggron Heavy Slam (100 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0- Def Flygon: 193-228 (64.1 - 75.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

How is this even called countering? Word of advice, please check via calcs whether the thing you're suggesting is even viable enough to be a counter.

Salamence @ Life Orb
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Ability: Moxie
Nature : Jolly
~ Dragon Dance
~ Dragon Claw
~ Earthquake
~ Fire Fang

252 Atk Life Orb Salamence Dragon Claw vs. 248 HP / 0 Def Goodra: 468-554 (122.1 - 144.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
-2 252+ SpA Goodra Draco Meteor vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Salamence: 252-296 (76.1 - 89.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Whatever you do, don't switch it in on an incoming Draco Meteor. Easily outspeeds and OHKO's w/ Dragon Claw.
Can also easily avenge kill the Goodra and maybe even set up a Dragon Dance if at -2 from a previous Draco Meteor; and getting that +1 attk form the Moxie!

JustTheFx said:

Salamence @ Life Orb
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Ability: Moxie
Nature : Jolly
~ Dragon Dance
~ Dragon Claw
~ Earthquake
~ Fire Fang

252 Atk Life Orb Salamence Dragon Claw vs. 248 HP / 0 Def Goodra: 468-554 (122.1 - 144.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
-2 252+ SpA Goodra Draco Meteor vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Salamence: 252-296 (76.1 - 89.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Whatever you do, don't switch it in on an incoming Draco Meteor. Easily outspeeds and OHKO's w/ Dragon Claw.
Can also easily avenge kill the Goodra and maybe even set up a Dragon Dance if at -2 from a previous Draco Meteor; and getting that +1 attk form the Moxie!

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Salamence isnt a counter because it cant switch in. A counter is actually able to switch in. :/


Anyway,

Avalugg@Choice Band
248 HP / 252 Atk / 8 Def
Impish Nature
- Crunch
- Avalanche
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge

+1 252 Atk Life Orb Salamence Outrage vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Avalugg: 230-270 (58.3 - 68.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

+1 252 Atk Life Orb Salamence Fire Fang vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Avalugg: 166-198 (42.1 - 50.2%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery


252+ Atk Choice Band Avalugg Avalanche vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Salamence: 1444-1704 (436.2 - 514.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO

^^^^^^^^^^^


Thank goodness.


Alomomola @ Leftovers
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SAtk
Bold Nature
- Wish
- Protect
- Toxic
- Scald



Earthquake is a 5hko - and good luck achieving that with regen, wish, and scald :]

Galvantula @ Focus Sash
Ability: Compound Eyes
EVs: 252 SpA / 252 Spe / 4 SpD
Timid Nature
- Thunder
- Volt Switch
- Bug Buzz
- Sticky Web


4 SpA Alomomola Scald vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Galvantula: 66-78 (23.4 - 27.7%) -- 70.2% chance to 4HKO

252 SpA Galvantula Thunder vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Alomomola: 548-648 (102.6 - 121.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Magnezone@Choice Specs
Ability: Magnet Pull
EVs: 252 SpA/252 Spd/6 whatever
Nature: Modest
Moves: Hidden Power Fire, Flash Cannon, Volt Switch, Thunderbolt

252+ SpA Choice Specs Magnezone Hidden Power Fire vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Galvantula: 324-382 (115.3 - 135.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252 SpA Galvantula Thunder vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Magnezone: 80-95 (28.4 - 33.8%) -- 0.5% chance to 3HKO

Magnezone comfortably takes the Thunders and OHKOs with HP Fire. Bug Buzz does even less (23.4 - 27.7%).

Swampert@Leftovers
Ability: Torrent
Moves: Earthquake, Avalanche, Curse, Toxic
Nature: Impish
EVs: 252 HP/252 Def/4 Attack

252+ SpA Choice Specs Magnezone Flash Cannon vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Swampert: 117-138 (28.9 - 34.1%) -- 99.6% chance to 4HKO after Leftovers recovery

4 Atk Swampert Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Magnezone: 420-496 (122 - 144.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Swampert can comfortably switch into Magnezone's flash cannon, and Earthquake it to death on the next turn.

No Waterfall?

Abomasnow @ Abomasite
Trait: Soundproof
EVs: 252 Atk / 244 SpA / 12 Spe
Mild Nature

- Wood Hammer
- Blizzard
- Earthquake / Focus Miss
- Ice Shard

252 Atk Mega Abomasnow Wood Hammer vs. +1 252 HP / 252+ Def Swampert: 408-484 (100.9 - 119.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
+1 4 Atk Swampert Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mega Abomasnow: 84-99 (26.1 - 30.8%) -- guaranteed 4HKO

Mega Abomasnow doesn't care about anything Swampert uses, even Curse, and OHKOes with Wood Hammer even at +1.

Well my Swampert set tends to be a stall defensive set most of the time, which is why I tend to forgo Waterfall when it comes to the fourth move slot. Anyways:

Scizor@Choice Band
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 252 HP/252 Attack/4 SpDef
IVs: 31/31/31/x/31/31
Moveset: Bullet Punch, Bug Bite, Superpower, Pursuit

Max HP and Max Special Attack Mega Abomasnow set calculations

252+ SpA Mega Abomasnow Blizzard vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Scizor: 120-141 (34.8 - 40.9%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after hail damage

252+ Atk Choice Band Technician Scizor Bug Bite vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mega Abomasnow: 464-548 (120.8 - 142.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Shipper's set calculations

244 Atk Mega Abomasnow Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Scizor: 110-130 (31.9 - 37.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after hail damage

252+ Atk Choice Band Technician Scizor Bullet Punch vs. 0 HP / 0- Def Mega Abomasnow: 344-408 (107.1 - 127.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252+ Atk Choice Band Technician Scizor Bug Bite vs. 0 HP / 0- Def Mega Abomasnow: 518-612 (161.3 - 190.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252+ Atk Choice Band Scizor Superpower vs. 0 HP / 0- Def Mega Abomasnow: 460-542 (143.3 - 168.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Scizor easily survives the switch-in on Blizzard or Earthquake, and makes Mega Abomasnow's life a living hell on the next turn by mercilessly OHKOing it with Bug Bite, Bullet Punch, or Superpower.

Torkoal @ Leftovers
Ability: Shell Armor
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpA
Bold Nature
- Rapid Spin
- Lava Plume
- Rock Slide
- Yawn

252+ Atk Choice Band Scizor Superpower vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Torkoal: 123-145 (35.7 - 42.1%) -- 90.6% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
4 SpA Torkoal Lava Plume vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Scizor: 364-432 (105.8 - 125.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Ah yeeeeeeeeah.

Tentacruel@Black Sludge
Nature: Bold
EVs: 252 HP/240 Def/16 Speed
IVs: 31/31/31/31/31/31
Moveset: Scald, Knock Off, Rapid Spin, Toxic Spikes

0- Atk Torkoal Rock Slide vs. 252 HP / 240+ Def Tentacruel: 40-48 (10.9 - 13.1%) -- possibly the worst move ever

0 SpA Tentacruel Scald vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Torkoal: 192-228 (55.8 - 66.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

Oh wow, Tentacruel can survive the switch-in, wall Torkoal for hours and hours (even when asleep), AND recover almost all of it's HP from Rock Slide damage with its black sludge, while at the same time either knocking off Torkoal's item first or scalding it to death in the two turns after the initial switch-in.

Toxicroak @ Life Orb
Ability: Dry Skin
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Gunk Shot
- Drain Punch
- Sucker Punch
- Swords Dance

Immune to Scald and Toxic Spikes, takes minor damage from Knock Off and Rapid Spin. Can freely set up and kill.

Slowking@leftovers
calm mind
scald
psyshock
slack off

regenerator
bold
248 hp 216 def 44 spe

should work pretty well against that 4x psychic weakness

Umbreon@leftovers
Nature: calm
Dark pulse
Gaurs swap
Moonlight
Taunt



252 / sp. def
252 / def
HP 4

Heracross@Heracrossite
Adamant Nature
40 HP / 252 Atk / 216 Speed
Trait: Guts ---> Skill Link
- Swords Dance
- Close Combat
- Pin Missile
- Rock Blast

Doublade @ Eviolite
Ability: No Guard
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Def
Adamant Nature
- Swords Dance
- Aerial Ace
- Iron Head
- Shadow Sneak

Ghost vs Ghost :O

Cofagrigus @ Leftovers
Ability: Mummy
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
Sassy Nature
- Knock Off
- Shadow Ball
- Will-O-Wisp
- Pain Split

Annoyer Cofagrigus. It can switch on any attacks Doublade can muster, and answer with a burn from Will-O-Wisp. Afterwards it could proceed for a 2HKO with 2 shadowballs or Knock Off + Shadowball, and Pain Split excess damage from random crits.

Houndoom@Houndoominite
Timid Nature
Flash Fire ---> Solar Power
252 SAtk / 252 Speed / 6 Def
- Nasty Plot
- Fire Blast
- Dark Pulse
- Destiny Bond

golem

one hit KO
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