6th Gen Pokemon Bank

No Chance Without Zekrom said:

Maybe it was Scarfed instead of Banded? Then it could outspeed you. And Machamp learns Dynamic Punch via level up, btw.

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I meant scarf... and the only reason I mentioned Dynamic Punch is because that was the only attack I saw so I couldn't say the rest of its moveset. I wasn't saying that Dynamic Punch was part of the hack.

But yeah, with a scarf its base speed should be around 80... since its original speed is 55.

XxCassiexX said:

I meant scarf... and the only reason I mentioned Dynamic Punch is because that was the only attack I saw so I couldn't say the rest of its moveset. I wasn't saying that Dynamic Punch was part of the hack.

But yeah, with a scarf its base speed should be around 80... since its original speed is 55.

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It's actually possible for a Scarfed Machamp to out-speed Mega Kanga:


Machamp Speed with 252 EVs, 31 IVs, and a +Speed Nature= 229


Mega Kangaskhan Speed with 252 EVs, 31 IVs, and a +Speed Nature=328


229 Speed x Choice Scarf (multiplies by 1.5)= 343 Speed


And 343 > 328


Choice items do not effect base stats, but the actual stat displayed on the status screen.

XxCassiexX said:

I meant scarf... and the only reason I mentioned Dynamic Punch is because that was the only attack I saw so I couldn't say the rest of its moveset. I wasn't saying that Dynamic Punch was part of the hack.

But yeah, with a scarf its base speed should be around 80... since its original speed is 55.

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are you using actual stats or base stats? because at level 50 a Machamp can have a maximum speed stat of 117 actually (229 at level 100), and if a hold item boosts that speed by 50% (or is one of the hold items that lets it go first regardless of speed) that can also make it outspeed whatever you had up against it.

Howmander said:

are you using actual stats or base stats? because at level 50 a Machamp can have a maximum speed stat of 117 actually (229 at level 100), and if a hold item boosts that speed by 50% (or is one of the hold items that lets it go first regardless of speed) that can also make it outspeed whatever you had up against it.

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Nah, I'm just talking about base stats.. http://www.smogon.com/bw/pokemon/Machamp

Base stat of 55*1.5=82.5...

Mega Kangaskhan base stat is 100..

Assuming both pokemon were +spd nature and 252EVs/Flawless IVs, Kangaskhan should outspeed Machamp with or without choice scarf... to my knowledge. I don't think there's any other item that can raise your speed more than choice scarf aside from quick claw.

No Chance Without Zekrom said:

It's actually possible for a Scarfed Machamp to out-speed Mega Kanga:


Machamp Speed with 252 EVs, 31 IVs, and a +Speed Nature= 229


Mega Kangaskhan Speed with 252 EVs, 31 IVs, and a +Speed Nature=328


229 Speed x Choice Scarf (multiplies by 1.5)= 343 Speed


And 343 > 328


Choice items do not effect base stats, but the actual stat displayed on the status screen.

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Ahhhhh.. Well color me surprised. I guess you can't go by base stats then. =P

XxCassiexX said:

Ahhhhh.. Well color me surprised. I guess you can't go by base stats then. =P

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Yeah, it's the IVs/EVs side of things that messes everything up. If IVs/EVs were straightforward multiplication, like the Nature and Scarf, then using the base Speed would be fine. But instead they add stat points, so (simplifying a little) it actually ends up as:

Speed = (Base + IVs + EVs) * Nature * Scarf = (Base * Nature * Scarf) + (IVs * Nature * Scarf) + (EVs * Nature * Scarf)

So the base Speed only affects the first part, whereas the Scarf affects all three.

So, is there ANY way for me to only add enough money needed for pokebank to my account? The lowest amount to add is 10.00 and I really don't want to add 10.00 because there isn't anything else I want to buy from the eshop. I only want to add what I need for pokebank but it won't let me. I already tried deleting pokebank in hopes it would prompt me to add the amount I needed to redownload it but that did not work because apparently re-downloads are free. :/

AuroraBeam said:

So, is there ANY way for me to only add enough money needed for pokebank to my account? The lowest amount to add is 10.00 and I really don't want to add 10.00 because there isn't anything else I want to buy from the eshop. I only want to add what I need for pokebank but it won't let me. I already tried deleting pokebank in hopes it would prompt me to add the amount I needed to redownload it but that did not work because apparently re-downloads are free. :/

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You could do that with a credit card.

I'm doing the trial right now when I should've done it later, I deleted my save file on Pokemon White 2 with many good pokemon I caught awhile ago and made a new file. I got too excited and got the free trial too early, transfered a bit of pokemon to pokemon Y but starting te trial already wasn't worth it, I recommend only paying for pokemon bank when you have tons of IV breeded and EV trained pokemon in your boxes before you use the trial or pay for it. At least 5 Boxes of good pokemon before you use it, and the 5$ is worth it. If you don't hardly have any pokemon to transfer and store for 30 days, it's not worth it. Since I made this mistake, I felt like I ripped off myself, I only transfered like 10 pokemon and I'm almost done with the trial and wish I didn't delete my save file cause I could've transfered many pokemon with my old deleted save file. I'm planning to play Pokemon White 2 soon, and get many competive pokemon to transfer and store with pokemon bank for that 5$ at the right time. I could've had 7 boxes of competive pokemon to transfer over to Pokemon Y using the trial version and never paid for pokemon bank again. My mistake. Why 5$ per month though, right?

Why 5$ per month though, right?

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Pokemon Bank is five dollars a year, not five dollars a month. And the charge is to allow Nintendo to upkeep their servers that store everyone's Pokemon data.

LOL at being worried about the subscription - just read the mistake too! Funny stuff :P

bought bank last night, very useful utility!

AuroraBeam said:

So, is there ANY way for me to only add enough money needed for pokebank to my account? The lowest amount to add is 10.00 and I really don't want to add 10.00 because there isn't anything else I want to buy from the eshop. I only want to add what I need for pokebank but it won't let me. I already tried deleting pokebank in hopes it would prompt me to add the amount I needed to redownload it but that did not work because apparently re-downloads are free. :/

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Yes, there is :) If you try to purchase it with insufficient funds (as opposed to pressing "add funds"), it will ask if you want to add the exact cost of the purchase.