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icomeanon6

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Oh, I've seen Evangelion now. I just hadn't when I wrote that. It's the first thing my boyfriend ever got me to marathon. Good times.
Have you seen the movie, End of Evangelion, yet? It's basically a more literal depiction of the events covered by the last two episodes. I'll warn you, though: In terms of graphic content, it makes the rest of the series look surprisingly clean and docile.

Other then Pokemon, where do you take your inspirations, style, and ideas from. (Such as other television shows, movies, books, etc.)

I like to think that my ideas are my own. I definitely will concede that I've taken a lot of style cues from Michael Crichton in my main fic. He might have been the author that really got me into reading books for fun, especially with Jurassic Park and Prey. I was really shaken up when he died. It didn't help that I found out on election night, so the only coverage was online. I remember saying to my family, "Michael Crichton's dead, and nobody cares."
 

Elite Overlord LeSabre™

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Other then Pokemon, where do you take your inspirations, style, and ideas from. (Such as other television shows, movies, books, etc.)
Here we go...

Numerous math textbooks ("Factorization and Primality Testing" by Bressoud being a major one)
Various editions of the Quality Inns/Choice Hotels International Travel & Vacation Directory
Various editions of the Rand McNally and American Map Road Atlases
Periodic Table of the Elements
Various Buick sales brochures (LeSabre, Century, Roadmaster, etc.)
Various sales brochures for competing/related vehicles (Grand Marquis, Town Car, New Yorker Fifth Avenue, Caprice Classic, Ninety-Eight Regency)
Crime documentaries such as "The FBI Files" and "Forensic Files"
Other crime-related programs such as "World's Wildest Police Chases" and "America's Most Wanted"

I can virtually guarantee that at least five of these will not appear on anyone else's answer for this topic.
 

An-chan

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What is the most common thing happening in your fan-fictions?

Uh, humour and comedy. I can't take myself seriously enough to write completely humourless stuff. Besides, why should I? Playing with words and personalities is simply a part of my style. I'm not going to stop it, so my fanfiction and original fiction will always come with free humour in them.

Another thing I tend to do is the protagonist getting beaten up, either physically or mentally. I like to torture them to the breaking point and then have them or their friend heroically overcome all the crap I've set before them. I'm currently in the process of beating one of them senseless, only this time I'm doing it trough some serious psychological trauma. Hah. Nice of me, eh?

Other then Pokemon, where do you take your inspirations, style, and ideas from. (Such as other television shows, movies, books, etc.)

From books I read: Artemis Fowl -series, Howl's Moving Castle -series, Tales of the Earthsea -series, Lord of the Rings, and Ender -series, for example. The last one's completely Astinus's fault. It gave me one great idea, though.
From movies or TV shows I see: Stargate Atlantis, Star Trek, the movies of Hayao Miyazaki and his son, the movies made by Pixar (I just adore them), and so on. Some movies or shows have directly given me some awesome inspiration, but I can't remember them now.
From music I listen: I'm not going to list all the songs I've ever heard. Some of them just lit up a tiny flame in me and force me to write something specific.
From places I go to: One story came to me when I was walking in a tunnel that leads to a subway station. The roof is white and there's a long line of lamps in it. Looking at that roof gave me an idea of a death scene that lead to a story I wrote for a long time and that is almost finished. It was many years ago, though, and I haven't touched that story in a long time.
From stuff I write myself: Yeah, one of my most epic stories came to be when I wrote a short story about a boyish girl who had never talked to boys in her life meeting a boy who had never talked to girls in his life. My boyfriend and my mother loved that short story, so I began to think about those characters. They kind of created the story for themselves... I love those two characters to death!
From things that are said around me: One time, my dad complained about our bathroom light, as the light didn't work properly anymore and was flickering annoyingly. For a couple days, no-one changed the lightbulb and so the flickering and the complaining went on. This led to me writing a short story where the protagonist gets arrested and goes to a prison, where the light in his cell keeps flickering. In the end, he gets the light changed and can happily read his books again.
Also, my mom kept bugging me about brushing my teeth once. As a result, I wrote a story where dentists had spread propaganda and now controlled the society trough their expensive services. The protagonist didn't want to succumb to their reign and never brushed his/her (that protagonist really doesn't have a gender) teeth. (S)He joined forces with some underground organizations and they managed to tell people of the conspiracy... Uh... I tend to exaggerate a bit, it seems...

Also, I get inspiration from art, poems, games, comics, newspapers, instruction manuals, scientific facts, science magazines, folk stories, objects, vehicles, shapes, colours, single words... I don't think there is anything I can't get inspiration from. My train of tought is often very peculiar.

Chances are I'm not the only one.

Anyone have cookies?
...I could sure use one right now.
 

An-chan

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Weeellll... You smoke crack, really. Cocaine, on the other hand, you can either snort or shoot.

...Don't ask me how I know this.

...I'm going to resist the urge to ask, then...

But really, imagine if you hadn't told me that and one day, I would go to New York and someone would ask me whether I want to snort coke and I'd be like "hey, why not, I like Coke!" and end up in a situation where it would be extremely hard to say "hey, guys, I thought you meant the soda pop, so I'm just going to beat it now" and I would be forced to become a serious drug addict and die in a ditch because I don't have the money to go home anymore because I've been robbed.

I think you saved my life there, Jax. ( I swear I will forever have troubles calling you Xanthine...)

Although I understand that the actual words for most body parts are somewhat turn-offs (I mean, really.)

True, but most of the synonyms or euphemisms for those body parts are so overused they turn into turn-offs, too. Some of the words I've seen used out there are seriously so... not-good that they make it all highly laughable. Some things are just easier left unsaid, expecially if you're not exactly the best writer anyway.

But, yeah. Super-odd euphemisms ftw. The one who used the word "member" sounds like they've never seen a human body if they didn't come up with a better word.

...Why do I know all this? I haven't even reached the legal age of maturity yet...

Actually, depends on the archive. XD On LJ (where people completely disregard LJ's want for no fandom smut unless they can use it to feed drama), you get comments pretty much similar to FFNet. As in, "This description was so hot!" On actual porn sites, you get people attempting to add to the story or expressing their love for whatever fetish might be involved. So, yeah. You either have one-liner reviews or exactly what you're describing.

...Don't ask me how I know this.

Neither one-liners nor what I described qualifies as something you need a message board for. The former are something you don't need and the latter is something you don't want. So, why bother in the first place?

Also, you're making it really hard not to ask.

I'm imagining Asty as a member of the Justice League, and it amuses me.

Exactly my thoughts! Only that my idea had cookies in it.

Yeah, you'll have to make one yourself. Sorry.

...Bummer. In that case, you can keep your stupid chainsaw. I never wanted one anyway. Poisoned darts are a lot cooler!

Oh, and why are we the only ones talking? Where is everyone?
 
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I'M MORE

OOPS

I'm more active in other fandoms that aren't on PC. And I have to read through three stories now.

:D

Edit: Four stories.
 

TurtleKing

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What is the most common thing happening in your fan-fictions?

Weather is a common thing going on in my novel. Kind of like a drastic comparison and contradiction. It's snowing in much of Western Sinnoh, while the East is rather warm. This is kind of occurring because of Neo Team Rockets production through out the western portion of Mt. Coronet and eventually bringing their wrath east.

Off Topic:

[leet]FW33333 N0 sK00L!!!!1!!!1 I GET 2 WRITE!!!!![/l33t]
 

icomeanon6

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[leet]FW33333 N0 sK00L!!!!1!!!1 I GET 2 WRITE!!!!![/l33t]
Yeah, I've got the day off for weather, too. Due to a freak combination of sickness, end of semester holidays, the inauguration, and snow/ice, I haven't been at school for twelve days.

I'm starting to miss it, is that weird?
 

Heart's Soul

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Yeah, I've got the day off for weather, too. Due to a freak combination of sickness, end of semester holidays, the inauguration, and snow/ice, I haven't been at school for twelve days.

I'm starting to miss it, is that weird?

No, not really. Anyway, that's odd that you have no school for 12 days, when it's -40C Windchill outside and we have to go to school. Not fun.

Also, *gives cookie to An-chan*


Back on-topic:
Other then Pokemon, where do you take your inspirations, style, and ideas from. (Such as other television shows, movies, books, etc.)

Not much, just random books, like Harry Potter, and the occasional school assignment gives me ideas. Television, never, but other fan-fictions made by kids who follow my lead. Yeah, those guys can't write one, but I just like to laugh at their inability to do so.
 

Scarlet Weather

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Oh, I've seen Evangelion now. I just hadn't when I wrote that. It's the first thing my boyfriend ever got me to marathon. Good times.

I've seriously got to be the only seventeen-or-older on this forum who has not yet seen Evangelion, then. Rats.

New question, everybody. xD

When writing about canon characters from the main cast of the series, how loose of an interpretation is permissible before you're better off writing with your own OCs?

I'm not talking about Bill, Surge, and other characters who mostly get one-offs in the anime, I'm talking about members of the main cast (who, arguably, pretty much only get written about for shipping fics these days, but that's beside the point). How far is too far?

See, I'm playing around with what has got to be the loosest adaptation I've ever seen of canon characters in the form of a personal favorite fanfic of mine to spork. (Seriously, this thing is like the Twilight of the Pokemon fandom). I'm wondering if anyone else here would look at the ways that the canon characters have had their personalities morphed 'over the years', and wondering if anyone besides me would find the changes as stupid as I am.
 

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Have you seen the movie, End of Evangelion, yet? It's basically a more literal depiction of the events covered by the last two episodes. I'll warn you, though: In terms of graphic content, it makes the rest of the series look surprisingly clean and docile.

He showed me End of Evangelion too. It's his favorite film ever and he had seen it something like 230 times when he stopped counting.

Other then Pokemon, where do you take your inspirations, style, and ideas from. (Such as other television shows, movies, books, etc.)
I don't really take inspiration from other fiction much, or if I do it escapes my notice. :/ I mean, often I read or watch something and my brain comes up with an idea inspired by it, but I generally think of myself as being reasonably aware of it when that happens and it would usually feel kind of wrong to me to actually use an idea I know is directly inspired by somebody else's work. Some of the stuff I come up with could be subconsciously inspired by something I read or watched long ago, but if so, it's vague enough for me not to really realize the connection.

As for nonfictional inspirations, I was inspired to write Morphic by an article about gene splicing in animals that I read in a magazine, started it and then didn't really continue because I didn't have a plot; later I decided to pick it up again after there was a thread about Pokémorph fics on Serebii. A Pokémon splicing guide on one of my favorite websites in 2001 made me create Molzapart and Rainteicune, which were the subject of my first ever Pokémon fanfic. The entries in a fake Pokémon contest on that same site also inspired me to create Chaletwo, because I had this silly idea of trying to figure out just how something could be "rarer than Mewtwo and Mew and Celebi put together!!" (by traveling through time so that it only exists for a few seconds every year), and a Gym contest made me create the Mew Hunter's Gym. An event at my school inspired me to write The Type Chart (a Pokémon/The Matrix crossover parody thing), and the very basic concept of The Second Clone (a story about a genetically enhanced Sentret clone that I really need to keep writing) came from a dream I had. Then there's that drawing that inspired Chains.

...okay, I guess you could say that the first fanfic I ever read "inspired" me to create The Quest for the Legends, in that it made me want to write an actual trainer fic in a new region, and that From Rookie to Champion by Kecleon "inspired" me to realize how battle descriptions were supposed to be written.

Oh, hey, wait. Part of The Trainer With No Dreams, whenever I actually continue that thing, was sort of inspired by The Hound of the Baskervilles, which I had been reading. The underlying concepts aren't really very similar when I think about it, but at least it did originate there.
 

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When writing about canon characters from the main cast of the series, how loose of an interpretation is permissible before you're better off writing with your own OCs?

Being what some people define a "canon nazi," I'm one to say, "If the reader can't recognize these kids as the same ones who are in the original canon, get your own characters."

Basically speaking, I'd say it's okay to bend characterization slightly. For example, Ash Ketchum having a crush on Dawn but still being the lovable dumbass we see in the show? Okay, sure. Giovanni having a cute and fuzzy moment with his Persian's kittens behind closed doors but still being the charismatic, cold mafia boss as soon as one of his subordinates steps in? Okay, that's cool too. Brock abandoning the kids to go chase after skirts? A bit on the arguable side but still Brocky enough to buy.

But Ash Ketchum suddenly turning into an eloquent and ever-serious kung-fu master who doesn't give a second thought to killing a Pokémon? Ye-uh, no. Same thing with a ditzy Lorelei who wants in bed with another member of the Elite Four, a Brock who's willing to settle for one woman even after she leaves him (multiple times), and a Steven who cares more about his One True Love than his duties, his Metagross, Wallace, et cetera. All of which, sadly, exist in this fandom. *facepalm*

It also depends on the genre as well. Crackfic can get away with pretty much anything (so long as it's funny) because it's crackfic. So, Giovanni getting drunk and signing a plan to create a giant Slowpoke and then claiming it makes him warm and fuzzy thinking about it? Hey, why not? (Even if it wasn't canon.) But a serious fic that takes a character extremely OOC to the point where you can no longer recognize him? No.

Incidentally, yes, stripping a character of all personality counts as OOC. So, if you've got someone like Bella running around claiming she's Misty, that's still not something you do.

Point is, the entire purpose of fanfiction is to base your story on a set canon. It's fanfiction, after all, so you have to give some respect to the original work. This goes especially if you choose to use canon characters.

Seriously, I don't get it, guys. If you're going to use the preset characters, usually, that means you actually want to use the characters. Not just the names. Not just the looks. The characters themselves. If you choose to use canon characters, yes, you have to keep in mind the way they actually are. Personality, personal details, everything. Otherwise, this fandom's pretty blinking open. It's not unheard of to write an entire fanfiction without having to use the main cast or any canon characters whatsoever. (In fact, I'd say it's more common in this fandom to do that than actually write about the canon cast.)

And I'm still trying to refrain from giving my entire rant about the "I don't like canon" opinion that's rampant in this fandom with regards to fanfiction. If anyone wants to bait me, go right ahead.
 

The Ebon Blade

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When writing about canon characters from the main cast of the series, how loose of an interpretation is permissible before you're better off writing with your own OCs?

This is the reason that, if I'm incorporating canon characters into my fic which I have done in my fic so far, I only use them briefly and try not to make them main characters in the story. In fact, in my fic I only described them and gave them like one line of dialouge. Now, by the way I described them, it's obvious who they are but they say almost nothing because I don't want to mess up there character or make them seem to be who they aren't. Now granted, they are 40 years older then they were, which also makes it hard because it's not possible to gauge how someone will grow. For example, how is someone going to know that, when Ash is 50 years old, he's still not going to be that wild kid from the anime? In conclusion, I would say that you need to keep them as true to their character as possible.
 

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And I'm still trying to refrain from giving my entire rant about the "I don't like canon" opinion that's rampant in this fandom with regards to fanfiction. If anyone wants to bait me, go right ahead.

Well, Xanthine, what do you think about people who don't like canon and use it...? -baits-
 

icomeanon6

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One thing that people often forget is that there are multiple kinds of canon. There's anime canon, game canon, manga canon, etc. The real problem is that those canons often contradict each other. For example: Mewtwo. Is Mewtwo Mew's offspring, or Mew's clone? What I want to know is how acceptable it is to cross continuities, let's say by creating a story that contains distinct elements from the anime and manga. It's obvious that the stories aren't in continuity with each other, but they still are both accepted as "true" under certain circumstances.

Another issue arises with alternate universe fics. Is it acceptable to create story elements that can't be contiguous with either the game, anime, or manga's story? I'm under the impression that when one creates a new Pokemon universe, just about everything's fair game as long as the monster designs remain perfectly intact (no exploding Charizards, for example).
 

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OAnother issue arises with alternate universe fics. Is it acceptable to create story elements that can't be contiguous with either the game, anime, or manga's story? I'm under the impression that when one creates a new Pokemon universe, just about everything's fair game as long as the monster designs remain perfectly intact (no exploding Charizards, for example).
That sounds about right... :\ Except in crack universes, exploding Charizards are in the clear. Although we aren't talking about that. xD
 

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Well, Xanthine, what do you think about people who don't like canon and use it...? -baits-

*throws bait*

Now I want to hear the rant. xD

I hate you both. XD

First, let me start off by linking to a few rants that might say it better than me. (One of them also answers icomeanon's comment about doing whatever you want in fanfiction.)

Rant #1 (Although, okay, I wrote this one two years ago.)
Rant #2
Rant #3

What do all three have in common?

The fact that we're all emphasizing the fan part of fanfiction.

Here's what I don't get about people who say they're not following canon because they don't like it. The entire purpose of writing fanfiction is because you're a fan. I mean, seriously. Honestly. Obviously. Look at the prefix. It's just three little letters, and they spell "fan." So, right off the bat, you really have no choice but to respect canon because you're doing this out of fan love.

I mean, sure, fanfiction's also about expanding on the canon world. After all, the point isn't to simply restate canon because if we did that, we might as well just watch, play, or read the original material. The entire point is to be creative in the set world and laws that the creator gave us. But that's really the thing. We're bound on at least a minute level to someone else's creation because otherwise, all we're doing is writing original fiction and slapping vague references to someone else's work in our own. That's not called being creative. That's called not having enough balls to cut yourself off from canon completely. (After all, fanfiction usually comes with a preset audience of people who are also fans and are also looking for something about the things they're familiar with. Original fiction tends to sell a bit harder because you have to get across an entire new world. It's unfamiliar to them, so you don't have the benefit of attracting the audience of an already published work.)

Point is, you're doing this because it's called fanfiction. Therefore, if it's not Ash Ketchum's personality, it isn't Ash Ketchum. If you screw with the six-Pokémon limit, you'd better have a workable explanation besides you did it because you don't like the limit. (Same thing with the age limit, for that matter.) If you decide Charizard can use Explosion to knock out a bunch of Haunter, I'm sorry, but that's called raping canon, and you can't just do that. I know I keep saying this, but if you can't at least respect the original laws, why are you calling yourself a fan?

That's another part of the rant that I really feel needs to be touched. All too often in this fandom (and it seems to be only this fandom that has this problem, whereas other fandoms simply reject parts of canon), people say they hate canon but still write fanfiction.

Um, what?

Okay, okay, okay. You're a fan of Pokémon... but you don't like Pokémon? Not even one form of canon? Not the games, not the manga, not the show... nothing? I'd hate to be a nazi about it, but why are you still calling yourself a fan?

Basically, what I don't get is this kind of mentality. It's one thing to like writing Pokémon fic in which you create your own region and your own set of Pokémon. You might not even touch the canon ones. However, there's still one fundamental string in your story that makes it a Pokémon fic. Otherwise, you wouldn't be labeling it as such, right? (I mean, it doesn't make sense to completely disregard all the laws and norms of canon, create your fancreated land with a bunch of fancreated monsters, and call it a Pokémon fic when there's no way for us to recognize that there's anything related between your world and the one in general canon.) But if you don't like canon, I don't quite understand how it's possible to like Pokémon. Yes, you might like the individual creatures, but that's about as basic as you can go. After that point, you're back in canon.

Before I go any further, I'd like to point out that there's such a thing as general canon. It's simply the sorts of things that are shared by all forms of canon and are never contradicted. These include the existence of gyms, badges, Poké Balls (and an accompanying transportation method that enforces a six-ball limit -- which occurs later on in Special but still exists), the trainer class... I could go on, but if you can think of it and it exists in pretty much every canon, yeah, it's general canon.

Now, with that in mind, if you say your character's a trainer, you're back in general canon. If you have the six-Pokémon limit, that's general canon again. If you say Mewtwo is a clone created by Team Rocket, you're in either Special canon or anime canon. If you have a League end in a tournament, chances are, you might be in anime canon. In any case, yes, you're going to end up using canon. Even if you go with the very basics, you like canon to an extent because you're using certain elements of canon, even if you don't recognize it as such.

And, even simpler, let's face it. You're writing fanfiction. Fan. Fan. This implies that you, the writer, are a fan of the series. Why would you waste your time and energy writing something that's essentially dedicated to (because it's completely about) something you don't even like?

So, simply speaking, canon's the original material. It's the facts, as presented by the media in question. Fanfiction is the act of writing a story based (even loosely) on canon because the writer happens to like the media. (After all, it doesn't make sense to waste time doing something for something you don't even like.) If you write fanfiction and don't like the canon, that's a bit of a paradox there, and it sounds like you might be a bit confused as to what it means to write fanfiction in the first place.

In other words, yes, I don't like it when people say, "lolz i write fanfiction and don't like canon!" Because you're contradicting yourselves there, lovelies.

And there you have it. The canon rant.
 

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I've seriously got to be the only seventeen-or-older on this forum who has not yet seen Evangelion, then. Rats.

I haven't seen it, either. Which is odd for me, seeing as I'm a total sci-fi/fantasy buff.

EDIT: Just realized I have more stuff to talk about.

Alright: my fatherly type seems to think I should be writing a completely original story instead of using pokemon. To tl;dr quote him, "your story sounds so interesting, but why don't you make it original? Most people will be turned off by the fact that it's a fanfic." This is obviously true, but that's were the problems start popping up.

First off, I enjoy writing fanfiction. Pokemon just fits the stories I create so well. Secondly, if I do want to go original, it's going to be nigh-on impossible to convert my current stories. I could create original characters with the same traits as the pokemon in my fics, but it screams knock-off.

Basically, if I try to make everything I've written thus far original, I feel it will be ruined. But I also would like stories I can call fully original. Maybe it's odd of me, but I feel like less of a writer for depending on canon.

This is more of a rant than anything now that I look back, but any thoughts or suggestions?
 
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