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Old February 16th, 2013, 06:51 AM
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I remember this same debate raging when Rerisham and Zekrom were revealed. their types were ??? as well, for months, until they were revealed. people thought they were gonna be new types, but nope, electric dragon and fire dragon. the same will happen here. not being told yet means nothing.

I highly HIGHLY doubt there will be a new type added. i will eat my hat if there is. For me, the Sylveon name comes from Sylph, which is a spirit of the air depicted in the mythology of europe (where this new land is supposedly based). They are usually seen as elegant and feminine, and linked to fairies. Sylveon is gonna be flying type, i tell you now!
Not true. Reshiram/Zekrom typing was hidden and revealed a few weeks later, with no mention at all in CoroCoro or on the sites to what there type is and why its a mystery, and here ,well, we do. They want us to get excited for the type, and I doubt its so they can throw us a normal eevee curveball.
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Not true. Reshiram/Zekrom typing was hidden and revealed a few weeks later, with no mention at all in CoroCoro or on the sites to what there type is and why its a mystery, and here ,well, we do. They want us to get excited for the type, and I doubt its so they can throw us a normal eevee curveball.
Zekrom and Reshiram were revealed in Coro Coro. Daisuke Club revealed the next day that they were both Dragons. Two days later rumor about Zekrom being Electric appears on a VA's blog.

It was actually a handful of days after release that their types were confirmed.

There is still a big difference between this and Sylveon. Sylveon plays an important role in the Mini Movie and Its Type as well as Evolution Method can be seen as spoilers for the movie. Which stands to reason, they'd hold back this info until closer to the movie if not revealing it during the movie. Evolution Method most likely won't be shown until then cause that's a heavy spoiler. Type can be a minor spoiler.
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Old February 16th, 2013, 01:18 PM
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Sylveon is in the short though so I don't see the big deal is spoiling a short, unless it's also in the main movie...
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Old February 16th, 2013, 01:55 PM
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Zekrom and Reshiram were revealed in Coro Coro. Daisuke Club revealed the next day that they were both Dragons. Two days later rumor about Zekrom being Electric appears on a VA's blog.

It was actually a handful of days after release that their types were confirmed.

There is still a big difference between this and Sylveon. Sylveon plays an important role in the Mini Movie and Its Type as well as Evolution Method can be seen as spoilers for the movie. Which stands to reason, they'd hold back this info until closer to the movie if not revealing it during the movie. Evolution Method most likely won't be shown until then cause that's a heavy spoiler. Type can be a minor spoiler.
While the correction is fine, are you arguing with what I said? I'm asking cause we're basically saying the same thing, that Sylveon is widely different, and possibly is exactly what we're expecting, a Pokemon to introduce a new type.
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Old February 16th, 2013, 05:49 PM
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Judging by the moves used in the short video featuring the new Eeveelution, it looks like a Normal type. I mean, Swift is a Normal type move.

However, those bows on its head look a bit like butterflies, so perhaps a Bug type would be a possibility. However, the look of it is just so vague that it has to fit with the other Normal types.

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Judging by the moves used in the short video featuring the new Eeveelution, it looks like a Normal type. I mean, Swift is a Normal type move.

However, those bows on its head look a bit like butterflies, so perhaps a Bug type would be a possibility. However, the look of it is just so vague that it has to fit with the other Normal types.
All Eevee Evolutions can learn Trump Card and Swift though.

All bows when drawn look like butterfly wings. Its a specific name for those types. Even the contest ribbons that were bow like had the butterfly wing look. It being Bug type is pretty out there.
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Old February 16th, 2013, 06:29 PM
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All Eevee Evolutions can learn Trump Card and Swift though.

All bows when drawn look like butterfly wings. Its a specific name for those types. Even the contest ribbons that were bow like had the butterfly wing look. It being Bug type is pretty out there.
I looked back a couple pages and saw the whole Love type discussion. A Love type would certainly make sense. I mean come on, this game is gonna be set in somewhere like Paris, right? What is the nickname for Paris? The City of LOVE. Even if there isn't a new Love type, this game is DEFINITELY going to be centered around Love.
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Old February 16th, 2013, 06:31 PM
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I think it might be a posion type rather than a fully bug type.
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Old February 16th, 2013, 07:45 PM
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It'll be a shocker if it were poison. The best chances are it's Normal, Flying, Dragon (this is only due to dragon being the only formerspecial type left and it's color scheme), or a new type.
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Old February 16th, 2013, 10:24 PM
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In the image where all the Eeveelutions can be seen, if you look at it clockwise, they all are strong against their matching diagonal pokémon, so, for Flareon>Glaceon, Umbreon>Espeon, Leafeon>Vaporeon, and taking this into account, Jolteon>Sylveon... Meaning it's a Flying type.

It's a small coincidence, but also, it could be the biggest clue (besides the bows *flying* against the wind, and that it is the lightest eeveelution, and its name being related to fairy/wind creatures) about its typing.

That could also lead to the conclusion that there will only be 1 eeveelution added, to "balance" things out.
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Old February 16th, 2013, 10:28 PM
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In the image where all the Eeveelutions can be seen, if you look at it clockwise, they all are strong against their matching diagonal pokémon, so, for Flareon>Glaceon, Umbreon>Espeon, Leafeon>Vaporeon, and taking this into account, Jolteon>Sylveon... Meaning it's a Flying type.

It's a small coincidence, but also, it could be the biggest clue (besides the bows *flying* against the wind, and that it is the lightest eeveelution, and its name being related to fairy/wind creatures) about its typing.

That could also lead to the conclusion that there will only be 1 eeveelution added, to "balance" things out.
There's also the fact that only one extra spot appeared on the original movie advertisement poster, with that going to Sylveon!
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There's also the fact that only one extra spot appeared on the original movie advertisement poster, with that going to Sylveon!
With all the talk about genetics being a heavy theme, and Eevee being such a unique pokemon due to its gentics, I wonder if 8 evolutions will correspond to the 8 gyms in the game.
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Well, according to its name, it might be steel type
For looks, it might be flying or even normal (I know Eevee himself is normal type, but still...)
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Old February 17th, 2013, 04:38 PM
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In the image where all the Eeveelutions can be seen, if you look at it clockwise, they all are strong against their matching diagonal pokémon, so, for Flareon>Glaceon, Umbreon>Espeon, Leafeon>Vaporeon, and taking this into account, Jolteon>Sylveon... Meaning it's a Flying type.

It's a small coincidence, but also, it could be the biggest clue (besides the bows *flying* against the wind, and that it is the lightest eeveelution, and its name being related to fairy/wind creatures) about its typing.

That could also lead to the conclusion that there will only be 1 eeveelution added, to "balance" things out.
hey, it was also a small coincidence that in blue, oak would say "ho, this is getting good." and in red he says "oh, this is getting good!" (or was it vice versa?), and what was the next big legend? ho-oh! they hide this stuff all over the place, they even hinted about munna back in what was it? ruby? when a girl said she wished there was a pink pokemon with a floral pattern. i see this as a pretty good hint for flying.

oh, look at this.
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scroll down a little and it actually says this: "take a closer look at the different Pokémon which can evolve from Eevee, including the newly discovered Sylveon!"
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In the image where all the Eeveelutions can be seen, if you look at it clockwise, they all are strong against their matching diagonal pokémon, so, for Flareon>Glaceon, Umbreon>Espeon, Leafeon>Vaporeon, and taking this into account, Jolteon>Sylveon... Meaning it's a Flying type.

It's a small coincidence, but also, it could be the biggest clue (besides the bows *flying* against the wind, and that it is the lightest eeveelution, and its name being related to fairy/wind creatures) about its typing.

That could also lead to the conclusion that there will only be 1 eeveelution added, to "balance" things out.
That was a dead giveaway, I just didn't want to believe it so. So yeah, Slyveon is Flying. I just wish it had wings. Its ears are close enough I guess. But what's up with the bows?
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oh wait, jolteon and umbreon have no weaknesses, while it looks plausible for it to be a flying type, that would only make the type balance worse and jolteon would rule the eeveelutions, if we're going for balance, i think it would be safe to say that 1 or 2 more will be released. unless ninfia is indeed a light type and will be super effective against electric.
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It's incredibly common for people to find these little patterns and supposed "hints" as long as they benefit their preconceived theories.

I'd like to believe Slyveon will be either "Love" or "Fairy" type, but Flying works too. That being, said, nothing is confirmed and ultimately all of this speculation will just leave us disappointed.

Yeah, a lot of that stuff points to a Flying-type, but wasn't there a lot of debate over Reshiram and Zekrom being Dark/Light dragons respectively because of their representation and coloring? That was quickly put to rest and plenty of people were disappointed.
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With all the talk about genetics being a heavy theme, and Eevee being such a unique pokemon due to its gentics, I wonder if 8 evolutions will correspond to the 8 gyms in the game.
That's something I never considered before. Maybe this'd make up the final gym and determine the order of gyms (meaning it'll end on Flying - something new!)

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Well, according to its name, it might be steel type
For looks, it might be flying or even normal (I know Eevee himself is normal type, but still...)
Nah Syl doesn't really mean silver - if it were steel it'd be more Silv, and not y. The y just kinda of throws it off!
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hey, it was also a small coincidence that in blue, oak would say "ho, this is getting good." and in red he says "oh, this is getting good!" (or was it vice versa?), and what was the next big legend? ho-oh! they hide this stuff all over the place, they even hinted about munna back in what was it? ruby? when a girl said she wished there was a pink pokemon with a floral pattern. i see this as a pretty good hint for flying.

oh, look at this.
http://www.pokemon.com/pokemonxy/en-us
scroll down a little and it actually says this: "take a closer look at the different Pokémon which can evolve from Eevee, including the newly discovered Sylveon!"
Yeah, Munna!

I'd love the introduction of a Light type but that seems impossible, all this hype guessing its type is just like Zekrom/Reshiram, so, I won't get all crazy about it :p Flying seems the most likely.
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It's incredibly common for people to find these little patterns and supposed "hints" as long as they benefit their preconceived theories.

I'd like to believe Slyveon will be either "Love" or "Fairy" type, but Flying works too. That being, said, nothing is confirmed and ultimately all of this speculation will just leave us disappointed.

Yeah, a lot of that stuff points to a Flying-type, but wasn't there a lot of debate over Reshiram and Zekrom being Dark/Light dragons respectively because of their representation and coloring? That was quickly put to rest and plenty of people were disappointed.
you don't have to worry about me being disappointed, i don't really have a preference for what type it is, any new pokemon is awesome with me since it brings more strategy to the game. of course if you only judge by appearance that it'll be a new type you'll be disappointed, i'm not saying this'll be a light type because it looks like one and i'm sure as heck not saying it looks like a flying type, but you always find some sort of clue about these things that turn out to be right, it may not be a flying type, but this sure does seem like something they would do.
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That's something I never considered before. Maybe this'd make up the final gym and determine the order of gyms (meaning it'll end on Flying - something new!)
Ehhh...there really isn't a set order of release in that case. If by Pokedex, then we'd have a Water Gym first right? That makes choosing the Fire starter a horrible idea as you have the disadvantage again, and there is no guarantee we'll get Pokemon with type advantage before said gym. It would also mean that around the city there will be Water Pokemon making it hard to train the Fire starter.

Same if its an Electric Gym first with the Water Starter. A lot of the time, there is an area either before or after the first Gym with that Gym's type. A possibility of a Flying Gym ending the region is also kinda a let down. Flying type Gyms are pathetically easy. It would most likely be a repeat performance of Marlon with a Gym that's easy to OHKO before the E4. In reverse, it being a Normal or Dragon Gym would also be pretty boring. Dragon because of how many times its been done, and Normal...well Whitney and Norman were OP beyond reason. Don't really see how they'd be able to not OP a Normal Gym especially if its the final Gym without making it easy enough you can solo the gym.

Its a cool idea, but they Types for Eevee don't really make a good Gym set up.

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Nah Syl doesn't really mean silver - if it were steel it'd be more Silv, and not y. The y just kinda of throws it off!
Considering Pokemon tend to replace part of a word to keep the same pronunciation but a different spelling, its actually possible that the Sylv is for Silver as we already say its for Sylph despite the "ph" becoming a "v", though I agree that its not Steel type. All Steel Types look metallic in some way. I still think its Normal type based on looks alone.


EDIT: Just found the "weakness chart" that everyone has been posting to say that Sylveon is Flying type on Tumblr, but this one is based on NVE/NE. I was like...wow someone flipped the coin on the discussion XD



They even go as far as to compare Sylveon to Iris' B2W2 clothing XD

Man all this shows is how everyone is overthinking this entire ordeal.

Also found an appropriate picture to sum my thoughts on Sylveon's Type discussion


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Hm dragon makes sense to, i am still leaning towards flying, or a new type. Also anyone else have a feeling that eevee somehow has to do with the storyline. In the trailer we saw a statue of a guy with some pokemon next to him. One was an eevee. He is most likely a famous person in the region's history. Also eevee is the genetics pokemon so why wouldn't he be involved in the story if it has to do with genetics. Also the first new pokemon shown other then the legends and starters was an eeveelution so why not have it be a big part of the story?
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I dunno, I mean, I don't think eevee as a Pokemon would play too much of an importance in the storyline. It seems a bit too farfetched to center a storyline around just one Pokemon(unless that's happened before, idk). D:
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Man I love Sylveon. Its the first time in 2 gens that a Pokemon has finally riled up the fanbase about the type, with no clear indication on where it can go. The type hype fight is the biggest division in a long while (last time was NY Shanghai right?) and its just so fun being a part of this. All I can say is that its either flying or a new type, with dragon being the wild card out of the blue pulling the rug from under your feet surprise.
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Sylveon sure doesn't look like a dragon-type :O
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