• Our software update is now concluded. You will need to reset your password to log in. In order to do this, you will have to click "Log in" in the top right corner and then "Forgot your password?".
  • Welcome to PokéCommunity! Register now and join one of the best fan communities on the 'net to talk Pokémon and more! We are not affiliated with The Pokémon Company or Nintendo.
    Register

My Competitive Team Gen V

TheMasterLucario1

TheMasterlucario1
29
Posts
10
Years
    • This is the carefully ev trained and put together team I came up with I yet need some advice on how to use them to their full potential.

    Lucario:
    Moves;sword dance,aura sphere,extremespeed, ice punch
    Item;life orb
    Nature;Mild
    Stats;
    hp=281
    attack=288
    defense=158
    sp.attack=361
    sp.defense=176
    speed=240
    Ability;justified

    Hydreigon:
    Moves;draco meteor,fire blast, super power, earthquake
    Item; white herb
    Nature;Mild
    Stats;
    hp=346
    at=267
    de=194
    sp.at=383
    sp.de=216
    speed=246
    Ability;levitate

    Mismagius:
    Moves;Shadow Ball,Thunderbolt, Psybeam, Power gem
    Item;Choice specs or choice scarf
    Nature;Timid
    Stats;
    hp=261
    at=140
    de=156
    sp. at=278
    sp.de=277
    speed=339
    Ability; levitate

    Umbreon:
    Moves; toxic,curse,payback,baton pass
    Item; leftovers
    Nature;careful
    Stats;
    hp=331
    at=166
    de=319
    sp.at=140
    sp.de=394
    speed=165
    Ability; synchronize

    Zoroark:
    Moves;focus blast,night daze, flamethrower, nasty plot
    Item; expert belt
    Nature; Rash
    Stats;
    hp=261
    at=277
    de=156
    sp.at=372
    sp.de=140
    speed=276
    Ability; Illusion

    Serperior:
    Moves;Giga drain, dragon tail, coil, leech seed
    Item; Meadow plate
    Nature;jolly
    Stats;
    hp=312
    at=186
    de=247
    sp.at=167
    sp.de=247
    speed=330
    Ability=Overgrow
    I can use some strategy advice on how to use them or to change any of the moves or items but i want to stick with these pokemon
     

    PlatinumDude

    Nyeh?
    12,964
    Posts
    13
    Years
    • There's no need to list the exact stats of each Pokemon.

    Aura Sphere does NOT benefit from Swords Dance and should only see use on Special Lucario sets. Mild doesn't benefit Swords Dance Lucario in any shape or form:
    -Swords Dance
    -Close Combat
    -ExtremeSpeed
    -Crunch/Ice Punch/Bullet Punch
    Nature: Adamant/Jolly
    EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
    Item: Life Orb

    Hydreigon is better off with 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe; the nature is fine, though. White Herb is better on Shell Smash sets, IMO, and if you're playing under item clause, Expert Belt is an okay substitute for Life Orb.

    While Mismagius is a good Pokemon in its own right, Gengar does whatever it can do better because it's stronger and faster:
    -Substitute
    -Shadow Ball
    -Focus Blast
    -Disable/Pain Split/Thunderbolt/Hidden Power (Fire)
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Black Sludge/Life Orb

    or
    -Substitute/Protect
    -Shadow Ball
    -Focus Blast
    -Hidden Power (Fire)
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Life Orb/Black Sludge

    or
    -Shadow Ball
    -Focus Blast
    -Hidden Power (Ice)
    -Trick/Thunderbolt
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Choice Scarf

    However, what Mismagius has over Gengar is better special bulk, but it has better coverage moves than Psybeam:
    -Nasty Plot
    -Shadow Ball
    -Hidden Power (Fighting)
    -Thunderbolt/Taunt
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Life Orb/Leftovers

    or
    -Substitute
    -Calm Mind
    -Shadow Ball
    -Hidden Power (Fighting)
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Leftovers

    None of your Pokemon benefit from Umbreon's Curses. The Speed drop is very detrimental on Lucario. Plus, Umbreon doesn't see much use in the standard environment because of its tendency as setup bait. Sableye is better at supporting the team and annoying the opponent:
    -Taunt
    -Will-o-Wisp
    -Recover
    -Foul Play/Night Shade/Snarl
    Nature: Calm
    EVs: 252 HP/4 Def/252 SDef
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Prankster

    There are better Grass Pokemon out there than Serperior. Ferrothorn is likely the best Grass Pokemon there because of its ability to check Water Pokemon easily:
    -Spikes/Stealth Rock
    -Leech Seed/Stealth Rock
    -Power Whip/Leech Seed/Protect
    -Gyro Ball/Thunder Wave
    Nature: Relaxed
    EVs: 252 HP/48 Def/208 SDef
    Item: Leftovers/Shed Shell

    If you want to keep Serperior, Giga Drain doesn't benefit from Coil at all, and it has a physical STAB in Leaf Blade. A Coil set should use physical moves only:
    -Coil
    -Leaf Blade
    -Aqua Tail
    -Return/Substitute/Synthesis
    Nature: Jolly
    EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
    Item: Life Orb/Leftovers
     

    TheMasterLucario1

    TheMasterlucario1
    29
    Posts
    10
    Years
    • Thanks for the suggestions I'll be looking at my team and tweaking it a bit but like I said I want to keep my fav pokemon for now maybe later I might make another team using your suggestions :)
     

    PlatinumDude

    Nyeh?
    12,964
    Posts
    13
    Years
    • If you really want to keep Umbreon, here's the best set for it:
    -Wish
    -Protect
    -Foul Play
    -Heal Bell/Toxic/Yawn
    Nature: Calm
    EVs: 252 HP/4 Def/252 SDef
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Synchronize

    Curse isn't a good move to Baton Pass with, IMO, because of the Speed drop.
     
    Nolafus

    Nolafus

    Aspiring something
    5,724
    Posts
    11
    Years
    • Zoroark could use some improvement. Instead of a Rash nature you should have either a modest or timid nature. Since you have nasty plot, I would go ahead with the timid nature to make sure you can outspeed opponents.

    If you want to try out a special Serperior here's a decent set for it:
    Serperior
    Item: Leftovers/Lifeorb
    Nature: Timid
    Ability: Overgrow
    EV's: 252 HP, 252 Spe, 4 SpA
    Calm Mind
    Giga Drain/Leaf Storm
    HIdden Power Rock
    Dragon Pulse

    I would say the physical moveset for Serperior is better for type coverage, but if you want a special wall, then this set should do nicely.
     

    TheMasterLucario1

    TheMasterlucario1
    29
    Posts
    10
    Years
    • Ok make sense need some major inproving to do with the team I'll be working on them and that's a good moveset for serperior thanks
     

    PlatinumDude

    Nyeh?
    12,964
    Posts
    13
    Years
    • TheMasterLucario1 said:
    Ok make sense need some major inproving to do with the team I'll be working on them and that's a good moveset for serperior thanks
    Click to expand...

    Leaf Storm and Calm Mind are counterproductive because Leaf Storm drops Special Attack by 2 stages after use, while Calm Mind brings up Special Attack (and Special Defense) by 1 stage per use. If you want to use Calm Mind Serperior, here's the best set for it:
    -Substitute
    -Calm Mind
    -Giga Drain
    -Hidden Power (Rock/Fire)/Dragon Pulse
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Leftovers

    Do note that physical Serperior is still perfectly viable.
     

    TheMasterLucario1

    TheMasterlucario1
    29
    Posts
    10
    Years
    • I see what u mean so for physical serperior u would use coil then leaf blade or aqua tail n if I need to recover use synthesis. umbreon with that moveset would be like a healing and bother opponent kind of thing right?
     

    PlatinumDude

    Nyeh?
    12,964
    Posts
    13
    Years
    • TheMasterLucario1 said:
    I see what u mean so for physical serperior u would use coil then leaf blade or aqua tail n if I need to recover use synthesis. umbreon with that moveset would be like a healing and bother opponent kind of thing right?
    Click to expand...

    Yeah, that's the gist of what those particular Serperior and Umbreon sets generally do.
     
    You must log in or register to reply here.
    Back
    Top