Request an Individual Move Set Thread

[Dark Destiny]

thanks
if i was using a team of
dragonite, t-tar
blissy, gliscor

should i use alakazam or gengar? or something else?

 

[PhoenixFlare]

Can I get an EV spread for this Zapdos:

Zapdos @ Leftovers
Modest
-Thunderbolt
-Baton Pass
-Agility
-Hidden Power Grass

Thnx.

thanks
if i was using a team of
dragonite, t-tar
blissy, gliscor

should i use alakazam or gengar? or something else?

Well Zam has Trickspecs to annoy your opponents walls and Gengar has Hypnosis and gets Thunderbolt. In the end its up to you but heres their common movesets.

Alakazam @ choice specs
Timid
252spd/ 252spatk/ 6hp
-Trick
-Psychic
-Focus Blast
-Energy Ball

Trick Choice Specs onto a wall that commonly has physical moves or use it to sweep. Sometimes has Calm Mind.


Gengar @ wide lens/ life orb
Timid
252spd/ 252spatk/ 6hp
-Hypnosis
-Focus Blast
-Shadow Ball
-Thunderbolt

 

[ABYAY]

Dark_Azelf, you gave me this Aboma set a while back, and this is the one I'm using, but one question.

Abomasnow@Choice Band
6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
~ Ice Shard / Ice Punch
~ Wood Hammer / Seed Bomb
~ Earthquake
~ Focus Punch/Brick Break???

Choice Band rapage.

Can I run Brick Break over Focus Punch, or is that a necessity? I don't have Sub support as of yet.

 

[Dark Azelf]

Dark_Azelf, you gave me this Aboma set a while back, and this is the one I'm using, but one question.

Abomasnow@Choice Band
6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
~ Ice Shard / Ice Punch
~ Wood Hammer / Seed Bomb
~ Earthquake
~ Focus Punch/Brick Break???

Choice Band rapage.

Can I run Brick Break over Focus Punch, or is that a necessity? I don't have Sub support as of yet.

Focus Punch or you wont 2hko Blissey,

 

[ABYAY]

Wow...even with Choice Band, Aboma can't 2HKO Bliss with Brick Break, even with 30 atk IVs? (one I bred had it). That's...somewhat weak.

 

[sims796]

flamehaze, not "all" scarfers are bad. I'll admit I'm not a fan of Scarfing Pokemon besides Porygon-Z. But sometimes Scarfing a Pokemon not normally Scarfed can make for a nice surprise.

I agree with this. I scarf my Flygon. Pretty predictable, I'll admit, but nonetheless effective.

 

[Anti]

Flygon is way better CBed though :0 I think what flamehaze might be saying is that a lot of pokemon that are scarfed are better when they're CBed or have choice Specs, in which case I'd have to agree. there are exceptions though...you could make the argument for medicham and Garchomp...but yeah.

Also, can I have a moveset for Mesprit? CM plz.

 

[Dark Azelf]

Flygon is way better CBed though :0 I think what flamehaze might be saying is that a lot of pokemon that are scarfed are better when they're CBed or have choice Specs, in which case I'd have to agree. there are exceptions though...you could make the argument for medicham and Garchomp...but yeah.

Also, can I have a moveset for Mesprit? CM plz.

Mesprit@leftovers
Modest Nature
78 HP / 252 SpA / 180 Spe
- Psychic
- Thunderbolt
- Ice Beam
- Calm Mind

Yep, i sometimes run hidden power Fighting on this, cus of Maggy, T-Tar, heatran and weavile switch ins.

 

[sims796]

Flygon is way better CBed though :0 I think what flamehaze might be saying is that a lot of pokemon that are scarfed are better when they're CBed or have choice Specs, in which case I'd have to agree. there are exceptions though...you could make the argument for medicham and Garchomp...but yeah.

Also, can I have a moveset for Mesprit? CM plz.

I disagree with that "Flygon is better CBed." It is a hell of alot easier to take out threats that are usually faster than my main sweepers. Especially since most of them can't take too hard of a hit. Hence the reason why I use it like that.

 

[Anti]

Without a CB, flygon can only really finish things. With a CB, Flygon actually threatens some of its switch-ins with serious damage. A CB EQ will hammer any bulky water hard...and if they lack ice beam, you're in the victory lane. Extra speed is cool, but power IS what sweepers are for.

There are sweepers that probably need speed more than power, but with only 100 base attack, Flygon needs power.

 

[Dark Azelf]

Well i was thinking Shaymin would be useful as a cleric.



Shaymin@leftovers
204 HP / 110 def / 34 sp.att / 160 sp.def
Bold Nature
Trait : Natural Cure
- Aromatherapy
- leech Seed / Grass Whistle / Hidden power Fire / Psychic
- Rest
- Seed Flare / Grass Knot

It gets Natural-Rest which is nice.

Aroma is self explanatory.

Leech seed provides team support, whilst Grass whistle is a status move, all be it, a bad accuracy one =p, Hidden power Fire for better coverage. Psychic is an odd choice but it kills Infernape should it have any wise ideas about switching in.

Last slot is power vs PP. Seed flare gets alot of power and has a chance to lower the foes sp.def by 40%. Grass Knot has more pp.

What do you think, maybe a better ev spread is in order, due to me trying to balance out its defenses.

Any suggestion ?

 

[sims796]

Then try using my team & telling me otherwise.

I tried the CB route, & it did little for me. Especially when he is mixed. With CS, it is easy for me to ruin any Sashers, switch to the right counter, & easily wipe out the opposition. Or just clean eliminate them with one well placed Meteor. I'll admit, it's not as easy wiping Blissey out, but that's what Dos is for.


My point was, it depends on the team which one works more.

I say Seed Flare.

 

[Anti]

Running a CB Flygon mixed is a bad idea, unless it's just Fire Blast. But yeah, that would be silly :( I don't know your team well anough, but for the individual pokemon Flygon, CB helps more. If your team has plenty of power and a speedy attack is what you need, go go go Cscarf!

Yeah, methinks Seed Flare is best as well.

 

[sims796]

Hold on, I wasn't reading. I instead say Grass Knot if you DON'T use Fire.

 

[Anti]

I say seed flare. all that power is cool, especially with STAB and SDef drops.

 

[sims796]

Depends on what he uses. Seef Flare as a sole attacking move won't cut it with 5 PP.

 

[Anti]

Depends on what he uses. Seef Flare as a sole attacking move won't cut it with 5 PP.

Well, you aren't exactly trying to stall. I'd rather go energy ball over grass knot, otherwise light stuff gets annoying.

 

[sims796]

True, but without another move, Seed Flare won't do much at all once all 5 PP is gone.

I'm having a similar dilema with either Gyro Ball or EQ on Forry.

GB hurts pokes like Sala, which annoys me to no end. EQ can take out Vire, which isn't so important. Butt has more PP for a wall. Which should I do?

 

[Anti]

Does your team have Weavile problems?

 

[sims796]

Not one bit. Hell, Grumpig can dance with that SOB.

Still, Even though steel is a bad attack type, I like that it can hit flyers. but EQ can hit more, & it can stop Maggy cold.