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6th Gen New Pokémon Evolution Announcement!

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    In before Dual Wielding (and Oven Logic)! :P

    Nope. Everyone was wrong.
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    ...why is it pink? XD

    Mixed feelings to this. I knew about the announcement about 2 days prior, but I was anticipating that Oorooto would be officially revealed in English Pokemon media (and now we have yet another Pokemon that gets the English-reveal jump of Oorooto! That is just baffling. XD). Thankfully, "never-before-seen" Pokemon actually meant "never before seen" and not "never before seen in English media". It's interesting that the English media was able to do the reveal ahead of Corocoro magazine or the Japanese Pokemon website; I've hope they've updated as well, though, because we should really be pushing the "simultaneous worldwide reveal" and not reveals that are exclusive to one country/region... Anyway..

    The name is...rather basic. 0_o I can't lambast it too much, as it at least it tries to be more punny and portmanteau-ish as opposed to the name of "Talonflame" (that one could count as a potential portmanteau of talon and inflame...although I feel that's stretching it a bit because I imagine most people, myself included, will simply read it as the utterly agonizingly simplistic "talon + flame" at first glance) I'm still thinking of a better alternative (as I don't like I'm in a good position to be complaining about Pokemon names much unless I can come up with a better alternative); the only ones I have are Twinives (twin + knives, also incorporating "win" because I can tell Honedge's evolution is likely going to pwn like crazy), Nittor"something" (ni, Japanese for "two/2", and "tor...", because it sounded cool and resembles the word tear, but I can't think of any good words beginning with "tor" at the moment). I don't see many good words for "two" and "double" in other languages, although there's doppel...

    In spite of the concept (hehehe two swords), and the awful name (it's talonflame all over), it looks surprisingly decent.

    [S-HIGHLIGHT] I feel like I shouldn't like it, but I do.[/S-HIGHLIGHT]

    My thoughts exactly. {XD}

    I like to preseve the sound of the root words so "double" + "Blade" = "Doub-Lade"? Doubl-Ade?

    Well, technically, we don't know what the root words are if the localizers don't specify them (although, like many may do, I'm inclined to believe that "double + blade" is the easiest origin to identify), so any pronunciation should be valid, at least in my opinion. :P For all we know, there may be the word doub in some other foreign language that's pronounced like "doo" and was subtly included in Doublade's name simply because Rule of Cool.

    I really like this, but I don't know why. I really wanted a Honedge evolution, but always thought that it wasn't going to happen, but this has really surprised me. The name is nice and easy to roll of the tongue, your basically saying 'da blade'. It seems to have turned into not only two swords, but also a bit of a shield as well. It reminds me of this.
    This might just end up being on my team.
    New Pokémon Evolution Announcement!

    I agree; I got a slight shield motif as well from Doublade's design. In all, Doublade is cool merely because it retains Honedge's design (sans the blue colors) yet it just multiplies it by 2. I really wish that Doublade's "hilt ribbon" thing was red-hued, because I don't want to be fighting with "2 swords that are pink-ribboned". >.< I was expecting an all-new Pokemon (or evolution), but a Honedge evolution definitely surprised me; Honedge looked fine as it was by itself. The thing that most excites is that this revelation gives the Honedge line a better chance of being competitively viable (it fortunately retains the same ability as well!).

    I can also see the Genwunners crying out about the laziness of the design (adding another "head/entity" of sorts, just like in Generation 5 with Klinklang and co.), only to see other fans use several "beloved" Generation 1 designs (Magneton, Dodrio, Dugtrio, etc. Yes, those employ 3 entities rather than two, but it's basic math that amounts to the same concept) as a counter-point... -_-

    Nevertheless, I like swords, so two swords, as Lloyd Irving delicately stated, is even better! ^^ Doublade is still a prime Pokemon in my eyes..rather underwhelming, yet retains the awesome edge that Honedge possesses. My main hope is that Doublade's shiny coloration utilizes red hilt-ribbons, because that pink just is not working for me like the blue did. :<

    EDIT: Still nicknaming my Doublade Hexcalibur. And Doublade had better learn the move Double-Edge or it's going to be very disappointing. XD Come to think of it, "Doubledge" would've been a nice name!
     
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    Killjoy

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    Kind of underwhelming but I don't hate it.

    That being said, the name is no where near as bad as Talonflame. Doublade sounds pretty natural, obviously Double and Blade combined. Talonflame is literally the two words that encompass it, side by side... That is why it's no good


    Edit: and No Guard will be interesting :D
     
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    That's....it? :/

    I do actually kind of like the design, compared to Honedge, but damn, what a waste of an announcement.

    The ghostly suit of armor would have been a much better idea for Honedge in general. Blah.

    Exactly my thoughts. I was open to seeing an evo of Honedge before I completely wrote him off. But...everything is wrong about this pokemon, even the TERRIBLE name. I thougt he would gain a suit or something that would make him appear like a 'monster', 'animal', or 'creathure' of some sort. Rather it doesn't have an essence of either of those things - it's just a pair of swords glued together. Not only do I agree that this was a waste of an announcement, but I would say this is a waste of space on the pokedex.

    Thus far, I only dislike two pokemon in Kalos, Honedge and Doubledge. So disappointed!
     

    fenyx4

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    Oh, you guys didn't expect it? Well, news flash you SHOULD of expected it. No matter what you say, you SHOULD expect it. Every generation has this kind of Pokémon, so it's not big of a deal to me.

    Game Freak has been in the trend of screwing with the "traditions" (if the 'patterns' can even be called that) that the Pokemon games, so people could have also been expecting them to not introduce a "entity + 1" Pokemon like past generations have. And Honedge was quite fine by itself, too; "Dual Wielding" or even "Tri-Wielding" could be accomplished by using 2 or 3 Honedge in battle. If they were going to do the "entity + 1" thing at all, I would've expected it on a different Pokemon, not the flawless Honedge. Honedge already got buzz with its sword (and phantasmal) motif and Steel/Ghost typing; you would figure that would be enough for it.
     

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    Exactly my thoughts. I was open to seeing an evo of Honedge before I completely wrote him off. But...everything is wrong about this pokemon, even the TERRIBLE name. I thougt he would gain a suit or something that would make him appear like a 'monster', 'animal', or 'creathure' of some sort. Rather it doesn't have an essence of either of those things - it's just a pair of swords glued together. Not only do I agree that this was a waste of an announcement, but I would say this is a waste of space on the pokedex.

    Thus far, I only dislike two pokemon in Kalos, Honedge and Doubledge. So disappointed!
    It's not that bad...still not Magneton (Magnet and Ton...so creative...).
    However it is underwhelming...wish those swords weren't as short and looked cooler...maybe it's final evoltuion will be dual rapiers...
     

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    In my opinion, Kingdra and Flygon are quite easy to be labelled as Dragon types. Kingdra, while also being a sea horse, is also based on a weedy sea dragonhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weedy_sea_dragon

    For Flygon, some species of Dragonflys are commonly called Sand Dragons so its ground/dragon typing kind of makes sensehttps://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Flygon_(Pok%C3%A9mon)#Name_origin

    Altaria is something that I can not really defend for the change in typing, other then it is most likely based off of a Peng, which are Chinese Legendary birds, but this doesn't really defend it as it is not really a dragon.
    Although they are not originally dragons, they are at least somewhat similar, so they can most likely be excused. The eevelutions are the same as well. Foxes are canines so at least they are quite similar in that relation. I just don't see a Canine becoming dragon type :/

    As I said I know the logic behind each of these three different Pokémon. The leafy seadragon, the dragonfly and the Peng. It's just that none of them are actually dragons, instead being creatures with dragon-like traits.

    The point that I'm trying to make is that a Dragon-type Eevee evolution doesn't need to sprout wings and breath fire (or DragonBreath considering this is Pokémon) in order for it to have that type. There is a plethora of other things they could do to make it unique, interesting and clearly a Dragon-type without making it any less mammalian.
     

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    Game Freak has been in the trend of screwing with the "traditions" (if the 'patterns' can even be called that) that the Pokemon games, so people could have also been expecting them to not introduce a "entity + 1" Pokemon like past generations have. And Honedge was quite fine by itself, too; "Dual Wielding" or even "Tri-Wielding" could be accomplished by using 2 or 3 Honedge in battle. If they were going to do the "entity + 1" thing at all, I would've expected it on a different Pokemon, not the flawless Honedge. Honedge already got buzz with its sword (and phantasmal) motif and Steel/Ghost typing; you would figure that would be enough for it.
    I don't remember Hoenn or Sinnoh (nor Johto) introducing a "entity + 1" Pokemon...most were kept to Gen 1 until Unova and Kalos now came along...well at least Unova and Kalos were more creative with their "entity + 1's (or 2 in Magneton and Dugtrio's case...)" with the gears fusing to make something that resembles a machine of some sort, and a new sheath...hopefully Duoblade will have a more creative final though...or a Mega in the third version/sequels (if they give Kalos Pokemon Megas in them).
     
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    As I said I know the logic behind each of these three different Pokémon. The leafy seadragon, the dragonfly and the Peng. It's just that none of them are actually dragons, instead being creatures with dragon-like traits.

    The point that I'm trying to make is that a Dragon-type Eevee evolution doesn't need to sprout wings and breath fire (or DragonBreath considering this is Pokémon) in order for it to have that type. There is a plethora of other things they could do to make it unique, interesting and clearly a Dragon-type without making it any less mammalian.

    The thing is, Eevee hasn't got any relation to dragons what so ever, which is why I wouldn't want one as the design would most likely seem weird to me. Whether you want it or not is down to how you see it working, but to me, it just wouldn't work. The Pokemon already mentioned have at least a little relation to dragons, while a fox just doesn't have any relation at all. This means that all they would be making is an Eevee with scales, and possibly wings. They wouldn't really be able to do anything amazing with it because of the limitation in design choices they can go with.
     

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    The thing is, Eevee hasn't got any relation to dragons what so ever, which is why I wouldn't want one as the design would most likely seem weird to me. Whether you want it or not is down to how you see it working, but to me, it just wouldn't work. The Pokemon already mentioned have at least a little relation to dragons, while a fox just doesn't have any relation at all. This means that all they would be making is an Eevee with scales, and possibly wings. They wouldn't really be able to do anything amazing with it because of the limitation in design choices they can go with.
    What about MegaAmpharos? Has Ryu in it's japanese name but for a sheep to become part Dragon seems as odd as a fox-bunny-dog creature.
     
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    What about MegaAmpharos? Has Ryu in it's japanese name but for a sheep to become part Dragon seems as odd as a fox-bunny-dog creature.

    Forgot about that thing.. I guess you could argue that it becoming part dragon is just as ridiculous, but at the same time it at least has some relation with dragon, coming from its name, like you said. Plus it's a mega evolution, they are not the same as normal evolutions, so there could be different reasons for why it has become a dragon. Megas are meant to be treated just like legendarys, so giving it this extra type does make sense to me.
     
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    According to serebiiforums, Doublade is the work of the devil...

    One reason why I prefer pokecommunity.
     

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    Some people over at serebiiforums.

    Not sure exactly but they're talking about all seeing eyes and the illuminati. I stopped caring after a while.
    Those trolls...

    Talking about the eyes Doublade is now no longer a Cyclops like Honedge as now it has two eyes making it a biclops. I hope it becomes a triclops for it's final evolution. Maybe it'll have access to some psychic moves (not that they'll help cover it's weaknesses but they'll be nice to have either way).
     

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    I would've been fine if Honedge didn't evolve. It was a complete idea.

    On the bright side, I can use his unevolved form in a play-through! Or even a NFE CHALLENGE (I disregareded him at first because I like to avoid OU/ Power House mons in playthroughs. And COME ON, he's a sword - it must be a strong pokemon.)
     

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    I would've been fine if Honedge didn't evolve. It was a complete idea.

    On the bright side, I can use his unevolved form in a play-through! Or even a NFE CHALLENGE (I disregareded him at first because I like to avoid OU/ Power House mons in playthroughs. And COME ON, he's a sword - it must be a strong pokemon.)
    I'm really starting to doubt it'll be OU sadly as it has more weaknesses now. Hopefully it's stats will be awesome to overshadow that :3
     
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