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6th Gen Power Saves: Features/How To Guide [Hack/Spoiler]

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    The reason why Shiny Forced pokemon don't work on Battle Spot's check is due to their incorrect PID that doesn't match it's Hidden Shiny ID, Nature, and IVs.

    Each Pokemon has a PID, and each type of item has a corresponding index number. If the PID of the Pokemon throws an error or the index number of the held item matches that of an unreleased item, then the Pokemon is prevented from being entered. I get that.

    But it doesn't answer my question. If I've understood you correctly, the first item in your bag is altered so as to change it to a different one. In the same way that changing an existing Pokemon to a shiny one conflicts with its PID, changing an existing item to a different one could conflict with the data that was created when the original item was generated. In other words, could you test this out to make sure this is not the case? :)
     

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  • Each Pokemon has a PID, and each type of item has a corresponding index number. If the PID of the Pokemon throws an error or the index number of the held item matches that of an unreleased item, then the Pokemon is prevented from being entered. I get that.

    But it doesn't answer my question. If I've understood you correctly, the first item in your bag is altered so as to change it to a different one. In the same way that changing an existing Pokemon to a shiny one conflicts with its PID, changing an existing item to a different one could conflict with the data that was created when the original item was generated. In other words, could you test this out to make sure this is not the case? :)

    Actually I was wrong about that whole shiny thing.. I decided to test it out with other different pokemon/legendaries, turned them shiny and it turned out, they were allowed into Battle Spot.. It was my mistake originally when I was attempting this with Legendaries such as Xerneas, Arceus, Keldeo, Zekrom, Zygarde, etc.. All Legendaries who are "Shiny Locked".

    So, any normal pokemon or legendary that isn't "Shiny-Locked" by Gamefreak, which are basically 1/2 of the Event-Only and the non-6th Gen Legendaries, are allowed to freely battle on Battle Spot..

    However if they are Shiny-Locked and you turn them Shiny, then they become blocked on Battle Spot but are still able to battle over the PSS (wi-fi or local).

    If I remember right, the "Shiny-Locked" Legendaries are: Arceus, Jirachi, Keldeo, Meloetta, Reshiram, Xerneas, Yveltal, Zekrom, & Zygarde, everyone else should be fine. But just make sure to backup your save file or clone a non-Shiny set, just in case there's more before you go about deciding to turn all your Legendaries and Pokemon shiny.

    I went ahead and edited the original Post's FAQ on the 1st page to reflect this :)!
     
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  • Are you able to get Soul Dew using this device?

    Not at this moment. Maybe in a future update. But with the megastones.. it kinda makes the Souldew obsolete. For example: Latias' base Sp. Atk is 110, with the soul dew it's 165, but with the Megastone it's 180. It also boost it's base speed from 110 to 140.

    Also if I am not mistaken (i'll need to double check), Mega Latios gets Adaptability ability, Which turns it's STAB from 1.5x to 2x causing it to have the strongest Draco Meteor in the game, surpassing Kyurem-W, and is probably the strongest Special move in the game overall hitting at a whopping base 260!!! then calculate a Full 252 EV, hopefully a perfect 31 IV, Modest Nature, and that Draco Meteor should OHKO any opponent that's not immune or is a Sp. Def wall resistant to it!
     
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    Is it possible to add your own codes to the software? The shiny cheat must work by altering the PID of the Pokemon in question, so presumably it would be pretty straightforward to tweak the code for that cheat so that it changes the IVs, Nature or Ability of the Pokemon.

    Also if I am not mistaken (i'll need to double check), Mega Latios gets Adaptability ability

    Do you know what Ability Mega Latias has?
     

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  • Is it possible to add your own codes to the software? The shiny cheat must work by altering the PID of the Pokemon in question, so presumably it would be pretty straightforward to tweak the code for that cheat so that it changes the IVs, Nature or Ability of the Pokemon.

    You cannot input your own codes. it's not an action replay.

    Do you know what Ability Mega Latias has?

    They both seem to retain their original ability after all. However their stats change:

    This was annoying to get due to them being level 100 and destroying every level 60-70 in-game Pokemon in one hit with their weakest moves... here are the Stats:

    Both are Level 100 Timid

    Normal Latios:
    301 HP
    194 ATK
    196 DEF
    296 SP.ATK
    256 SP.DEF
    281 SPEED

    Mega Latios:
    301 HP
    267 ATK <--
    236 DEF <--
    356 SP.ATK <--
    276 SP.DEF <--
    281 SPEED


    Normal Latias:
    301 HP
    177 ATK
    216 DEF
    256 SP.ATK
    296 SP.DEF
    281 SPEED

    Mega Latias:
    301 HP
    213 ATK <--
    276 DEF <--
    316 SP.ATK <--
    336 SP.DEF <--
    281 SPEED

    It appears they both don't get any new Ability change after all, they remained as Levitate, which contradicts the Serebii.net's post, so maybe it isn't set yet.. however their stats do change which also contradict serebii.net's post!
    They both got an increase in Attack, Defense, Special Attack, and Special Defense. Speed and HP remained the same. So these stats pretty much make the Soul Dew obsolete for them in my opinion as they do need defensive increases with the new fairy threats out there who can one-shot these legendaries.

    So Latios becomes a Mixed attacking killing machine with it's Attack and Special Attack Increase, while Latias becomes a tank with it's Defense and Special Defense increase (probably would be a more significant number increase if it was the correct nature for such).

    Also to note, unfortunately Latios picked up a couple of EVs, no more than 6 in both ATK and DEF due to OHKO everything before finally I was forced to teach it a non-damaging move >.> also wasted 10+ min of trying to get a reset bag, discarding 50+ before giving up (the RNG isn't cooperating today. so f**k it.) and I unfortunately don't have any stat reducing berries yet in my new playthrough.
     
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    It appears they both don't get any new Ability change after all, they remained as Levitate, which is strange considering that every other mega Pokemon changes Abilities, so maybe it isn't set yet.. however their stats do change! They both get an increase in Attack, Defense, Special Attack, and Special Defense. Speed and HP remain the same. So these stats pretty much make the Soul Dew obsolete for them.

    I didn't expect the Abilities to change tbh, I was rather surprised when you said Latios had Adaptability. It wouldn't really make sense for them to have any Ability other than Levitate. And it's not true that all Mega Evolutions have different Abilities. Scizor, Tyranitar, Medicham and Abomasnow all retain the same Ability when they Mega Evolve.

    Soul Dew is actually better imo, because it increases Special Attack and Special Defense by 1.5x, whereas judging from the stats you posted, Mega Evolving only increases them both by roughly 1.25x. Yes, it increases Attack and Defense too, but those aren't particularly important on the Latis.
     

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    I wonder if there's code that affect the battle like PP never goes down or x* EXP multipliers and like anything in previous gens.

    I though I never actually found cheating possible, I looked in various forums and the result is nill, impossible to cheat or you'll get bricked for life. now, I saw this topic intrigue me and made my progressing smoother.
     
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    I wonder if there's code that affect the battle like PP never goes down or x* EXP multipliers and like anything in previous gens.

    I doubt it, because the Power Saves simply edits save game data. It can't change fundamental game mechanics like that.
     

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    That's good because I really dislike people using this code during battle spot :P

    Another question. If you edited your pokemon's IV/EV way over to 510 mark, does it make your pokemon can't be traded thru GTS and as illegal?
     

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  • That's good because I really dislike people using this code during battle spot :P

    Another question. If you edited your pokemon's IV/EV way over to 510 mark, does it make your pokemon can't be traded thru GTS and as illegal?


    1. How did you do this in X&Y O:?
    2. If you're just talking about a Pokemon with stats over 510 from Black and White, it won't make it pass PokeTransporter (I've tested it).
     

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    The reason I asked this because people might do that during battle spot, it's ok over Wifi though or with friend.

    I'm actually talking about using power save to HACK a pokemon and give them FULL IV and EV and assume GTS (not poke transporter) as non-legit
     

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  • The reason I asked this because people might do that during battle spot, it's ok over Wifi though or with friend.

    I'm actually talking about using power save to HACK a pokemon and give them FULL IV and EV and assume GTS (not poke transporter) as non-legit

    Fortunately Power Saves doesn't do that. Other than turning a Pokemon shiny, it doesn't have any options to modify Nature, EV Stats, IVs, or Moves. Pretty much the only thing it does is what I listed above in the 1st Original Post's Guide.
     

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    So it's possible to get Blaziken's mega stone using power save? o:
     

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  • So it's possible to get Blaziken's mega stone using power save? o:

    I just checked, and yes :D!

    So that's another awesome thing for those who missed the Torchic giveaway or those who restart their game. I should mention that in the original post :D!
     
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    This is what ruins games.

    If misused, yes. I just like them because it allows us an insight into how the game works. People mess with the coding of computer programs all the time in order to learn how they work, and I view this in the same way. It's fascinating.

    I agree with you on a fundamental level though. There will always be people who exploit these hacks so that they can gain an unfair advantage over others. I don't understand it to be honest, it completely defeats the point of playing the game in the first place.
     

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  • I honestly dont think this will "ruin" the game, at least not more than what we are already used to. Hacking has always been a thing in pokemon games, especially in the competitive scene, to ensure your team is actually good enough to put up a fight. Sooner or later people would have found a way to do it, and pokebank was the first step in that direction. People who like to use these "hacking" methods are going to use them, and people that dont wont...like it has always been.

    At least the new breeding system makes it easy enough to not be completely dependent from hacks
     
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    Not at this moment. Maybe in a future update. But with the megastones.. it kinda makes the Souldew obsolete. For example: Latias' base Sp. Atk is 110, with the soul dew it's 165, but with the Megastone it's 180. It also boost it's base speed from 110 to 140.

    Also if I am not mistaken (i'll need to double check), Mega Latios gets Adaptability ability, Which turns it's STAB from 1.5x to 2x causing it to have the strongest Draco Meteor in the game, surpassing Kyurem-W, and is probably the strongest Special move in the game overall hitting at a whopping base 260!!! then calculate a Full 252 EV, hopefully a perfect 31 IV, Modest Nature, and that Draco Meteor should OHKO any opponent that's not immune or is a Sp. Def wall resistant to it!

    yeah but unfortunately their mega evolutions are HIDEOUS so it makes the soul dew more important than EVER! ;-)
     

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  • Ahahaha. Have you tried syncing with the global site for the max pokemiles and see if it shows up on the website?

    Well the Pokemon-GL website isn't in maintenance anymore and I was able to re-register my new game sync code since I began a new playthrough, and this was the result:

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