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Gold hack: Pokémon XY: Naturia Version [11-04-14: Begin + BETA 0.1]

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I hope you come back soon with the same activity to your hack because I want to see your ability system, to see how much resembles mine the official games.

Nice updates. Keep in mind that you'll have to make it really clear in the game how these Pokémon evolve, since they're so different from the official games.. You shouldn't rely on people reading a forum post. There's this weird balance that you have to try and keep with ROM hacks. On one hand, you want to add lots of new stuff because it's awesome. On the other hand, you need to make sure the elements of the game are familiar enough that it doesn't confuse players. Anyway...

Keep up the good work!
 
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Thanks!
I hope you come back soon with the same activity to your hack because I want to see your ability system, to see how much resembles mine.



Thanks for the waiting!

The level 19 in Beldum is to use it without investing much time in. After all, when you can take it their pokemon go about level 30, so level 5 seems very bad level.

Actually I have no idea what the problem was with PickUp back then, but now I have tested all beta and works great. (I advise to always carry 2-3 Zigzagoons are very useful)

I'm a little to get to the formula of "move re-learner", i'm working too much in this.

The new download not ready yet. I will announce formally in one update that you can now download it.

thanx for all the new stuff :) but please be sure to add an evolution guide with your game :)
 
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1) Only have minor changes in the history, but a lot of changes in gameplay.
2) Im not sure if the latest version have this possibility to see it in the 3th stat box, anyways, in the next update i will add this feature.
Ability%20StatBox.bmp
3) Some parts in spanish, some in english.

Hey comet, did you add this feature in the last update? (in the quote)
 
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So I am trying the beta you put in the link and...Ralts freezes the game if it stays in battle for more than one turn?!
 

ZapdosMan

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This is the first hack taken to Gen 6!

I never played any gold hack but i will surely try this one!

ZapdosMan
 
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Sorry for pointing out the negative instead of the good aspects...I really like the fact that Axew can be caught early...I never had one in previous playthrough...
I'm happy you managed to make it able to switch while keeping the specie of the next pokemon unknown...

Do all Starly have Keen Eye ? And is it normal I can't lower their defenses beacause of that ? I thought keen eye prevented loses in accuracy.
I also have a Zorua with unnerve but wild zigzagoon can still eat there held berries when they face him...Of course it's possible the effect goot edited...
I read you invented a special ability for Meowth and Persian but you edited them out in favor of Pancham and Pangoro...Do you plan to put them back in?
How likely I am to catch a Teddiursa with out weakening it with a dusk ball in Dark Cave? < I find them cute and want to use one for pick up but they run away on the 2nd turn

And I still have problems with Ralts if I use the pre-patched rom you included in the RAR...i'll try patching a gold with the IPS to check...
 
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ChrisTheWhiteWolf

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Hi there

Just some silly questions from a newcomer so dont mind a lot

1)Why didn't use crystal as base cuz of the better sprites,animations and overall whole package?
2)Will you change the ''wrong'' sprites that some pokemon had in gold and silver?
3)You mentioned this is a ''test'' hack.Really?Cuz It's far more complete than other ''FULL BLOWN'' hacks and definitely with more features.That means that you are not going to finish it?Kanto I mean
Anyways keep up the good work!

PS THX FOR PUTTING ELECTIVIRE INTO THIS HACK HURRAY!
 
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com3tiin

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Sorry for pointing out the negative instead of the good aspects...I really like the fact that Axew can be caught early...I never had one in previous playthrough...
I'm happy you managed to make it able to switch while keeping the specie of the next pokemon unknown...

Do all Starly have Keen Eye ? And is it normal I can't lower their defenses beacause of that ? I thought keen eye prevented loses in accuracy.
I also have a Zorua with unnerve but wild zigzagoon can still eat there held berries when they face him...Of course it's possible the effect goot edited...
I read you invented a special ability for Meowth and Persian but you edited them out in favor of Pancham and Pangoro...Do you plan to put them back in?
How likely I am to catch a Teddiursa with out weakening it with a dusk ball in Dark Cave? < I find them cute and want to use one for pick up but they run away on the 2nd turn

And I still have problems with Ralts if I use the pre-patched rom you included in the RAR...i'll try patching a gold with the IPS to check...

It seems to me better than people tell me my mistakes so improved, so don't worry about it jaja

On abilities, I forget mentioned but I think that somes needs to be combined because there is a huge imbalance between some abilities. That's how combined:

-Limber + Brightpowder
-Oblivious + Own Tempo
-Inner Focus + Stench
-Magma Armor + Less Water damage
-Water Veil + Less Fire damage
-Vital Spirit + Vitalist (New Ability)
-Immunity + Evassion in Acid Rain (New Weather)
-Keen Eye + Big Pecks + ignore evasion boost (as GenVI)
-Hyper Cutter + cann't lower Speed
-Hyper Mind = cann't lower Sp.Attack & Sp. Defense (New Ability)
-Iron Fist + Serene Grace
-Sturdy + Rock Head
-Damp: + 10% evasion in RAIN
-Foolproof = Levitate + Heatproof
-Jaw-strong + 30% Cant Scape
-Mold Breaker + Opponent can not use Healer Items
-Arena Trap + slightly boosts the chances of catching a pokemon

I will review what happens to "unnerve", since in the tests I did everything worked fine.

The documento(number six) that describes the allocation of the abilities to each pokemon is not real. The official document on allocation is the number 5.

If Meowth appears in the document is because that will appear in another project, but definitely not return to Naturia.

About of Dusk Ball, I dont know the exact formula of the capture rate, only know that the capture rate is 120, but if you use the Dusk is converted to 255 (maximum value). Like if you try to catch a Zigzagoon in terms of capture.

I'll revisit that's what happens with Ralts to see if I can find another problem.

1)Why didn't use crystal as base cuz of the better sprites,animations and overall whole package?
2)Will you change the ''wrong'' sprites that some pokemon had in gold and silver?
3)You mentioned this is a ''test'' hack.Really?Cuz It's far more complete than other ''FULL BLOWN'' hacks and definitely with more features.That means that you are not going to finish it?Kanto I mean
Anyways keep up the good work!

PS THX FOR PUTTING ELECTIVIRE INTO THIS HACK HURRAY!

I LOVE Electivire !!

1) Crystal works very differently from GOLD, beginning that I would not know how to insert an animated sprite. Not all GBC-tools work in Crystal and how I edit a large blocks of information would take me a long time to do everything manually.

2) What do you mean with '' wrong '' sprites?

3) My idea of this hack is doing EVERYTHING I can think/dream in terms of GamePlay without touching the story, but you're right, maybe we should remove the word "test" because has more things than most of the hacks GB/GBC.
 
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The Togepi that hatches from the egg doesn't have an ability apparently...

Oh and I think that the problem with Ralts lies in its ability "Naturia heal"...since Ralts with Trace don't freeze the game after the first turn (tested by using growl on one and it using growl on me for 3-4 turns)... but they don't want to get caught directly in a ball...

Now I'll have to replace the one I have with one with Trace (if I manage to capture it that is...)

Examples of wrong sprites in G/S/C: Sneasel being brown with blueish feathers instead of black with red one, or Spinarak being purple instead of green or Skarmory being completely metallic without red feathers, or Bellossom being pink and green instead of red and a darker shade of green...
 
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ChrisTheWhiteWolf

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By wrong sprites I meant some pokemon with wrong coloration such as Feraligatr,spinarak,tangela,houndoom,sneasel for example.

And about the test thing I really wanted to ask you cuz it's really amazing what you have accomplished so far and the ''TEST'' thing impacts a cold feel to audience(At least me)

OK I've blabbered enough.
So thx for answering so quickly and keep up the good work
 
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Litmus works weirdly when the foe has it:

So I'm facing an Eevee and I get message such as: Ennemy Eevee's ennemy has become X type, Ennemy Eeve's XType has become Y type in addition to the more normals Ennemy Pokemon name's attack name has become X type...

So I get Eevees changing type three time but only attacking the last one. I had an Eevee become fire then water type before effectively attacking with Swift which turned into the ghost type...

Question : Do I have to search at a certain time to find Pikachu ? same question for Ralts, Growlithe and Vulpix?
Is the guy standing guard in front of slowpoke well supposed to look like the male main character because he does in my game? Same question about the one in front of Azalea's gym?

A bit of an oversight: you edited Azalea's mart to include Great Balls but not the dialogue of the guy saying they don't sell them...XD
 
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com3tiin

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The Togepi that hatches from the egg doesn't have an ability apparently...

The Game only assign Abilities in two cases, when you use the pokemon for battle or when catches him.

About of litmus, it is assumed that the routine is located in a place that should only be activated once (when attacking), so I do not understand that run multiple times. Vere I can do, but the truth is somewhat confusing.

The sprites that look like the male main character is a bug, i will review.

Pikachu = Only Morning, route 29
Ralts = Only Morning, route 31
Growlithe = Morning-Day, route 35
Vulpix= Morning-Day, route 33

By wrong sprites I meant some pokemon with wrong coloration such as Feraligatr,spinarak,tangela,houndoom,sneasel for example.

OHHH!! I think that you were referring to that. Maybe I change the coloring these pokemon. There is more that should change colors?
 
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The Game only assign Abilities in two cases, when you use the pokemon for battle or when catches him.
Ok so if I use it in battle it'll get an ability ?

About of litmus, it is assumed that the routine is located in a place that should only be activated once (when attacking), so I do not understand that run multiple times. Vere I can do, but the truth is somewhat confusing.


The weird thing is it works normally when I am the one with the Eevee but three times when I am facing one...And in that case it doesn't just transform the move's type but Eevee's one
It's like what Protean and Water absorb did previously, worked normally for us but activated by themselves each turn three times for the ennemies.

Description of what happens:

I send Zorua Lv 14
He sends Eevee Lv 15
I attack with Scratch
Ennemy Ennemy Eevee turned into GROUND type > Buggy
Ennemy Eevee's GROUND turned into BUG type > Buggy too
Ennemy Eevee's SWIFT Turned into FIRE type > normal (is the only message that displays when I'm using Eevee)
Zorua gets damaged by a fire type Swift

Pikachu = Only Morning, route 29
Ralts = Only Morning, route 31 Weird I get them during the afternon (2:00 PM) in route 29 and not 31
Growlithe = Morning-Day, route 35
Vulpix= Morning-Day, route 33

What is called the Down stone in your hack is actually called the Dawn stone. Like the D/P character with the same name...

Question:
How can we get HA pokemon in your hack ? it's probably somewhere in the documentation but I don't remember. Can they be passed on through breeding ? I have two shinies so far (Aron with Weak Armor and Ferroseed with Overcoat) do they have their HAs? Are shinies more likely to have theirs?
 

ChrisTheWhiteWolf

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OHHH!! I think that you were referring to that. Maybe I change the coloring these pokemon. There is more that should change colors?

Should is a big word.It's just personal preference from a guy who has played Crystal so many times over and over again and some pkm sprites seem off to me.
So don't mind too much.Here is MY ''quick'' list for recolors.

Typhlosion, Croconaw, Ledyba, Ledian, Togetic, Ekans, Mareep, Jumpluff, Pineco, Forretress, Nidoran, Nidorino, Hitmontop, Mr.Mine, Skarmory, Magkargo.

And something I wanted to ask the last time but I was worried you might take it wrong but since You are actually a nice guy here it is.

Is it difficult to rip some sprites from Crystal and apply them to Gold?
Is it more time consuming to recolor these pokemon than to rip them straight fro the source?

Damn I've given you hell
 
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com3tiin

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@Glitch Kitty;

Yes, if you use your new pokemons (hatches) in battle the game assign the ability according from his Ev.

About of litmus, I hope to have a solution soon.

The inconsistency of Ralts is repaired, appears on both routes in the afternoon.

I fixed the Dawm Stone Too.

The rules of the abilities are:

  • Only are assigned abilities in two moments, when a pokemon enters the battle for the first time or when captured, therefore, breeding pokemon or given don't have their ability from the begining. *
  • The abilities are assigned agree to DV's only if the pokemon can have 2 different abilities.
  • The shiny wild pokemon and breeding pokemon have their Hidden Ability. *
  • Rivals may have pokemon with Hidden Ability without being shinys.
  • If a pokemon enters to battle and hold the Everstone, only during that battle will have their Hidden Ability.
*Starter Eevee is the exception to the rule.



@ChrisTheWhiteWolf:

I'm always open to all suggestions, after all this hack is not only mine, but also of those who play.

Because some pokemon no longer exist in the game, these are what if I change:
Togetic,, Mareep, Hitmontop, Mr.Mine, Skarmory.

Is it difficult to rip some sprites from Crystal and apply them to Gold?
No, don't is difficult.
Is it more time consuming to recolor these pokemon than to rip them straight fro the source?
I almost takes the same time change a sprite completely or only the color, but obviously, it is easier to just change the color because only modified 2-bytes and its ready, however change a sprite involves looking at my documentation for search blanks spaces.

Need something?
 

Pokedude34

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Hey Guys! Just a quick question, is it possible to evolve Eevee into a Espeon or Umbreon in the game?
 
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Hi, just wondering when will the Beta be available that has the difficulty options? So i dont have to play hard mode? Thank you.
 
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