You have been denounced! Note: You are not at war. (Civilization)

[Ullion]

How do you do that? xD I am having a lot of problems keeping my empire alive at Prince XD

Most of my issues are barbarians just spawning everywhere and killing me ;-;

Personally, I try to get 1 scout out (then use my starting barbs + scout to check out the map) then get a monument (if I care for culture), then get 1 more barbarian to guard in my borders. :3

Also, you can skip the barbs to get an archer if your tech path allows. Having 1 army unit inside your borders seems to always do the trick for me. ^^

 

[TY]

Personally, I try to get 1 scout out (then use my starting barbs + scout to check out the map) then get a monument (if I care for culture), then get 1 more barbarian to guard in my borders. :3

Also, you can skip the barbs to get an archer if your tech path allows. Having 1 army unit inside your borders seems to always do the trick for me. ^^

Interesting, I always went monument before a scout cause I really prefer having some culture to tech up into Liberty to expand a bit more.

 

[Ullion]

It comes down to personal preference in playstyle, I think.

Coincidentally, I think that if we narrow it down based off playstyle - an expansive player would want an earlier scout (to find out where to expand to earliest) whereas a passive player would want to build infrastructure instead of scouting. XD

Mind you, I like knowing where things are, and if it comes down to it - scouts can ward off a single barb encampment.

 

[TY]

It comes down to personal preference in playstyle, I think.

Coincidentally, I think that if we narrow it down based off playstyle - an expansive player would want an earlier scout (to find out where to expand to earliest) whereas a passive player would want to build infrastructure instead of scouting. XD

Mind you, I like knowing where things are, and if it comes down to it - scouts can ward off a single barb encampment.

I think ill try that, since im more expansive than passive haha (as long as the AI doesnt bash me for taking every single bit of land xD)

 

[Ullion]

I think ill try that, since im more expansive than passive haha (as long as the AI doesnt bash me for taking every single bit of land xD)

It takes some fiddling around and playtesting to figure out what style fits you best. As I mentioned earlier, I go through phases of civs/styles I like. I find that no matter how I plan on winng, I almost always go scout->monument.

Now that I think about, even if you play passive - having an early scout means a higher chance of picking up ancient ruins. Mind you, those are super RNG so :P

 

[TY]

RNGruins, another game being influenced by the evil RNG gods :(

what's even worse is that you can RNG into free tech, which is full RNG aswell :P

Have some RNG in RNG

 

[Ullion]

RNG a free tech, or RNG-ifted vision over a barb camp that you already knew was there. Or a map of nothing but ocean. ;_; I like taking the chances though! I mean, getting a free tech, fast pantheon or a fast social policy is too tempting!

 

[TY]

a fast pantheon is always nice, or a upgrade on the scout to make it a archer with the scout movement, that is also something I'd take :P

 

[Super Skitty]

Ah, I always play shoshone, so I get to choose my ruin benefit, meaning I always get 1 free tech right away, and if I find more, I go for the extra population, and then culture bonus. Shoshone's scouts (pathfinders) are also a lot better, so I don't have to bother building warriors, and I can use pathfinders for both purposes.

 

[Ullion]

Ah, I always play shoshone, so I get to choose my ruin benefit, meaning I always get 1 free tech right away, and if I find more, I go for the extra population, and then culture bonus. Shoshone's scouts (pathfinders) are also a lot better, so I don't have to bother building warriors, and I can use pathfinders for both purposes.

I always forget about Shoshone. They're really good for that, for sure!

edit: I have this evening open but am busy the next 2 nights. If anyone is down for playing a round of civ, feel free to add me (SiR Ullion) on steam! :3

 

[TY]

That... seems so OP hahaha.

I cheated the AI, I went to war with Assyria (as Japan) and found out they just brutally murdered poor Gandhi (i swear him and his nukes >_>). So to prevent myself from being denounced by every other civ in the game, I freed Gandhi, which made no one care about me conquering Assyria and burning their cities down xD

I can play this entire weekend, but I can only start late this evening due to work :P

 

[donavannj]

Shoshone OP pls nerf.

But seriously that is ridiculously overpowered from my perspective.

Then again, in III, most of the early wonders are crazy advantageous. And in IV, the Oracle gives you a free tech upon completion.

I'm interested in games, but I'd prefer to play on IV as opposed to V. I'm donavannj and both GameSpy and Steam, though.

 

[Super Skitty]

Yeah, I guess they are a little OP, lol. I also get a huge amount of extra territory for my cities as soon as I settle them, and a pretty significant (don't remember the exact number) combat bonus when fighting in my cities' borders. So, I can take huge amounts of land really fast, and be pretty much invincible once I do.

 

[TY]

Shoshone is basically a very strong earlygame civ, but later on I think those bonuses die rather fast (especially the ruin bonus :P)

 

[Ullion]

What ShadowE said. Shoshone is ridiculous early game. If they don't press their advantage early though, they can lose a grip on the game. It's hard for me to say too accurately though, since I haven't used them often nor have my friends. x(

 

[TY]

I recently played as them to see how OP the bonus could be, but it's not that OP as I thought. I cant chain free tech from every ruin i find, so kudos for not making it as OP as it can be haha.

 

[Ullion]

Well, I don't think it's possible to get a "free tech" past the ancient era? Maaayyybe you can get classic era tech's for free too, don't think so though? It still helps with solidifying your early techs and gives you several options for securing yourself early.

 

[TY]

Well, I don't think it's possible to get a "free tech" past the ancient era? Maaayyybe you can get classic era tech's for free too, don't think so though? It still helps with solidifying your early techs and gives you several options for securing yourself early.

I need to investigate on that, but it's highly unlikely.

 

[Euphoric]

All the freebies are one of the reasons why I don't like V. You get random shit for finding ruins (free population! free faith! free culture!, happiness from finding natural wonders, gold from city states... Wacking city states for workers is the one right strategy, city state quests often are things you'd do yourself, social policies give you free workers, settlers, and buildings. I could work a wheat tile to grow my capital faster in the early game ... or I could get free population, I could build a shrine ... or I could get free faith from either religious city-states or ruins. If you didn't get all these freebies, you'd have interesting strategic choices - should I build a shrine to found a pantheon, a monument to boost my progress toward my next policy, or a granary to enhance growth? Nah, I'll just get all those, for free. It really kills the gameplay.

 

[donavannj]

All the freebies are one of the reasons why I don't like V. You get random **** for finding ruins (free population! free faith! free culture!, happiness from finding natural wonders, gold from city states... Wacking city states for workers is the one right strategy, city state quests often are things you'd do yourself, social policies give you free workers, settlers, and buildings. I could work a wheat tile to grow my capital faster in the early game ... or I could get free population, I could build a shrine ... or I could get free faith from either religious city-states or ruins. If you didn't get all these freebies, you'd have interesting strategic choices - should I build a shrine to found a pantheon, a monument to boost my progress toward my next policy, or a granary to enhance growth? Nah, I'll just get all those, for free. It really kills the gameplay.

This happens in IV on the lower difficulties if the game engine thinks you're falling too far behind. Maybe the V game engine is telling you something. :P Well, it also happens due to favorable RNG for the session in both games as well, so...