Square Enix - E3 Conference Discussion

[Dragon]

Square Enix announced that they will be hosting their very own E3 Conference just an hour after Nintendo's. Not much to say about what to expect from this conference yet, but that's where discussion and speculation comes in!


Some optional discussion questions:

What do you expect or hope from Square Enix this year?
What do you think about this being their first E3 conference?
Could this presentation this steal the show for you? If so, how could they?
Share any other thoughts here!

*Be aware that this thread is open for discussion before, during, and after their E3 conference!*​

 

[ソラ]

What do you expect or hope from Square Enix this year?

I expect some information of Kingdom Hearts III, and Final Fantasy XV.
I also hope if they are planning it, out of the rumors and speculation and Nomura has spoke about how he hates leaving it the odd one out of the HD collection Kingdom Hearts 3D HD. But the last one is just hopes I would love to see it on the PS3.

What do you think about this being their first E3 conference?
Oh it is, I havent had much time in the past to watch E3, but sweet! thats good for them that they got their own conference. Interesting.

Could this presentation this steal the show for you? If so, how could they?
It could be, if they announced the right games, mostly KH3 and FFXV related ones, Im hoping they dont announced a port of an old FF game like 1-4, I kind of got upset with the whole FF7 for PS4 of the PC port. Trophy support isnt something that will make me buy. The only Port/Remaster I want to hear from them is KH3DHD.

Just make this a big one SE. :)

 

[Evening]

I only hope that they don't troll us again.

 

[Arc]

What do you expect from Square Enix this year?

A new trailer for FFXV is a lock-in for sure. Ever since Tabata has been put in the helm of the project, it seems it's finally making some substantial headway. I'm not expecting a release date or window to be set in stone yet though.

I'm a little skeptical about KH3 making an appearance. Nomura has said that more information is going to be shown at D23 Expo. Which seems unlikely they have anything substantial prepared for E3.

The newest Hitman is most likely going to be shown. There has already been a teaser shown and IO Interactive has been really open that they're developing a Hitman game.

Another trailer for Deus Ex: Mankind Divided.

Bravely Second and Tomb Raider are a toss-up. They'll most likely have trailers, but they might be presented by Nintendo and Microsoft respectively.

Then, they'll sneak in a bunch of mobile games because it's Squeenix.

What do you think about this being their first E3 conference?

They must have a lot to show if they're confident to schedule their own show. So, we'll see on June 16.

Could this presentation this steal the show for you? If so, how could they?

Probably not. Aside from Bravely Second, none of their series don't really entice me like they use to. I'm still iffy on FFXV. My interest in KH is waning, but I'm still hopeful to see if KHIII can reignite that love if it's shown. Hitman has always been an unknown series to me. Deus Ex is still intriguing, but I don't expect it to blow my mind.

 

[RedJ]

I'm not particularly looking forward to Square's conference. They've already confirmed that FFXV wont be there and they've said that they'll have KHIII news at D23 so there probably wont be anything on that either. They might talk about KH chi or whatever that mobile game (yaaaaay [/sarcasm]) is, maybe a trailer for Dragon Quest Heroes, and they'll likely have something for Bravely Second, Deus Ex, Tomb Raider, but I personally don't care for any of those so the only thing that would get my interest would be an announcement for KH3D HD or localizations for the 3DS Dragon Quest games, but none of those are likely.

Is this really there first conference, though? I could've sworn they had been doing something up until a few years ago.

 

[Wicked3DS]

I'm just looking forward to getting more info on Deus Ex: Mankind Divided, but curious to see what else they bring to the table.

 

[RedJ]

Square Enix released a video (link) confirming that there will be new info for Final Fantasy XIV: Heavensward, Just Cause 3, Deus Ex: Mankind Divided, Dragon Quest Heroes: The World Tree's Woe and the Blight Below (yes, that is the subtitle they're going with), and Life is Strange, as well as teasing six unannounced games. The video is set to a remix of Frog's theme from Chrono Trigger...what could it mean???

The answer is probably disappointment and crushed hopes for everyone

I'm guessing a localization for Star Ocean V is one of those six, and I'm hoping for at least one more Dragon Quest localization announcement.

 

[Cherrim]

I'm expecting an official NA announcement for Kingdom Hearts Unchained Chi (mobile game), and maybe yet another brief teaser trailer. I hope they give us that much, at least. :( Aside from that there's not a whole lot I'm super excited about from Square-Enix except this ridiculous list of what-ifs that I have no reason to ever expect from this (TWEWY2, etc).

Square Enix released a video (link) confirming that there will be new info for Final Fantasy XIV: Heavensward, Just Cause 3, Deus Ex: Mankind Divided, Dragon Quest Heroes: The World Tree's Woe and the Blight Below (yes, that is the subtitle they're going with), and Life is Strange, as well as teasing six unannounced games. The video is set to a remix of Frog's theme from Chrono Trigger...what could it mean???

The answer is probably disappointment and crushed hopes for everyone

I'm guessing a localization for Star Ocean V is one of those six, and I'm hoping for at least one more Dragon Quest localization announcement.

Either last year or the year before they did an E3 video set to the same song so I don't think the song has anything to do with it.............................. but then they also had the time rewinding thing and they wouldn't be that cruel, to put such an obvious tease in and then make it for something else, right? ...right?

 

[machomuu]

http://www.siliconera.com/2015/06/15/final-fantasy-vii-remake-is-coming-to-playstation-4/

Remember, kids, that providing sources is just a way to hide the fact that you're a liar.

So by not providing a source, you become far more credible and deserving of people's trust!

 

[Neo_Angelo]

I just wished they make what every Square -Enix fan has longed for since forever, and thats Final Fantasy HD re-makes of 7,8 and 9!

 

[machomuu]

I just wished they make what every Square -Enix fan has longed for since forever, and thats Final Fantasy HD re-makes of 7,8 and 9!

I don't know if that's true.

As far as HD remakes are concerned, 12 is the only one people want, because it's the only other one that would benefit.

Nobody wants an HD remake of the others because an HD remake simply implies that the game will be in HD and have new, quality textures. So an HD remake of FF7 would look newer, but they'd still have blocks for hands and limited polygons for body parts.

In terms of actual remakes, 6, 7, and 9 are the ones most wanted. I personally want a ground up reimagining of Final Fantasy 1, as well as ground up remakes of the other titles. They could be absolutely beautiful if they were given the same treatment as new Final Fantasy games, in that there is an emphasis on presentation and such. It'd be interesting, but it'd also be a lot of work. And Squenix certainly don't like no work.

 

[Sensei_Soriel]

Didn't SE claims that they would not remake FFVII until they had a new king to put on the throne for the best FF? I do beleive there is still no FF that surpassed FFVII in the 3D style (obsiously, 2D king is still FFVI). So I call the rumor about a FFVII remake bogus.

 

[Neo_Angelo]

They will never do a remake of FF7 because of costs, they would need to re-do the game from scratch, as the PS1 used JPEG images to render the 3D like objects, which would look stupid brought up to the standard we know and love, plus the fact they don't have much of the coding and data from ff7 like they do 8 and 9. I believe FF7 was the game most players wanted a re-make of which square said they would love to do but wasn't on the agenda because it was too big a project to take up when they have so much going on with other games.

I'd love to see FF& re-done with graphics from advent children, same battle system and no speech (cuts costs) as you don't need to alter a great game. Trouble is the younger generation want easy games that require no skill, strategy or any form of brainpower, which is why we get these ridiculously easy games that have no story or depth because the game devs plunge so much into the graphics and gameplay.

Gone are the days where really good games where made from imagination and cost was no object.Square built its entire reputation on a last ditch attempt at a game as they were gunna go bust, they put everything into making such a great story and game, thus final fantasy was born and they have prospered from that name ever since. Now they have become too big which stops them making games worth playing.

I'd be solely disappointing if they made a re-make of FF12 as me personally i thought it was the worst game ever, everything about that game lacked, the story was crap, the characters where half baked, the fighting system was rubbish. Everything about it made it not a true FF game, thus spawned an era of poor final fantasy games like 13 and by the looks of it 15 too. 13-2 slightly redeems itself but was no patch on FF7-10. My honest opinion was that FF8 and 9 where the best ones.

 

[machomuu]

They will never do a remake of FF7 because of costs, they would need to re-do the game from scratch, as the PS1 used JPEG images to render the 3D like objects, which would look stupid brought up to the standard we know and love, plus the fact they don't have much of the coding and data from ff7 like they do 8 and 9. I believe FF7 was the game most players wanted a re-make of which square said they would love to do but wasn't on the agenda because it was too big a project to take up when they have so much going on with other games.

I'd love to see FF& re-done with graphics from advent children, same battle system and no speech (cuts costs) as you don't need to alter a great game. Trouble is the younger generation want easy games that require no skill, strategy or any form of brainpower, which is why we get these ridiculously easy games that have no story or depth because the game devs plunge so much into the graphics and gameplay.

Gone are the days where really good games where made from imagination and cost was no object.Square built its entire reputation on a last ditch attempt at a game as they were gunna go bust, they put everything into making such a great story and game, thus final fantasy was born and they have prospered from that name ever since. Now they have become too big which stops them making games worth playing.

I'd be solely disappointing if they made a re-make of FF12 as me personally i thought it was the worst game ever, everything about that game lacked, the story was crap, the characters where half baked, the fighting system was rubbish. Everything about it made it not a true FF game, thus spawned an era of poor final fantasy games like 13 and by the looks of it 15 too. 13-2 slightly redeems itself but was no patch on FF7-10. My honest opinion was that FF8 and 9 where the best ones.

I've got a few things to say on this.

As for FF7...Uh. I've been playing games for many years (and from many ideas prior), and this whole idea of games of today being flat and simple is frankly pretty off base. Games have by no stretch gotten worse, and games with deep stories/characters and hard difficulties are still being made constantly. The state of gaming today has absolutely nothing to do with why there's no FF7 remake. It's because it would take effort.

That's the only reason. They are fully capable of making a remake, and they have the time, money, and demand to do so. But they don't have a reason to because they're doing fine, and they know that it would bring in the truckloads, possibly more than even a new Final Fantasy iteration or Kingdom Hearts 3. It's easy money for when they're in a tight spot, so there's no need to do so just because people want it.

As for the games...you know Square wasn't out on their luck when Final Fantasy came around, right? Sakaguchi was, and that's why he made the game, and if it didn't do well he was going to stop. That said, Final Fantasy 7 through 10 weren't exactly saviors for the company. After 10 was released, they were still in a tight spot and that ultimately led to the creation of Square Enix, since the latter company was also in a tight spot. Final Fantasy I wasn't particularly known for its story (since that was pretty bare bones), either, it was more the adventure that it spawned that people remember. Final Fantasy III is where the series really gained ground, though, as its rival Dragon Quest was beating its ass every which way.

And as for 12, why wouldn't they? It's the only other one that makes sense to do an HD remake of. An HD remake. HD remake =/= remake. They don't completely rebuild the game from the ground up with groundbreaking graphics and the like, they just sharpen up textures, possibly music quality, and cutscenes to work in HD. Hence why they're easy to make and why we saw one for FF10 and the Kingdom Hearts games. It only makes sense, moreso than a FF7 remake would, really. Plus, there's demand for it.

As for that bit about Squenix not being able to make good games anymore, you realize that Final Fantasy XIII is made by different people with very different ideas and ideologies than the previous games and that's why it's so different, right? Same for XV. And it hasn't been all bad. Lighting Returns was a lot of fun, my favorite XIII entry, Type-0 was a nice entry, Agito's still a thing, and XV's getting good reception, far more than when it was announced.

 

[Neo_Angelo]

I've got a few things to say on this.

As for FF7...Uh. I've been playing games for many years (and from many ideas prior), and this whole idea of games of today being flat and simple is frankly pretty off base. Games have by no stretch gotten worse, and games with deep stories/characters and hard difficulties are still being made constantly. The state of gaming today has absolutely nothing to do with why there's no FF7 remake. It's because it would take effort.

That's the only reason. They are fully capable of making a remake, and they have the time, money, and demand to do so. But they don't have a reason to because they're doing fine, and they know that it would bring in the truckloads, possibly more than even a new Final Fantasy iteration or Kingdom Hearts 3. It's easy money for when they're in a tight spot, so there's no need to do so just because people want it.

As for the games...you know Square wasn't out on their luck when Final Fantasy came around, right? Sakaguchi was, and that's why he made the game, and if it didn't do well he was going to stop. That said, Final Fantasy 7 through 10 weren't exactly saviors for the company. After 10 was released, they were still in a tight spot and that ultimately led to the creation of Square Enix, since the latter company was also in a tight spot. Final Fantasy I wasn't particularly known for its story (since that was pretty bare bones), either, it was more the adventure that it spawned that people remember. Final Fantasy III is where the series really gained ground, though, as its rival Dragon Quest was beating its ass every which way.

And as for 12, why wouldn't they? It's the only other one that makes sense to do an HD remake of. An HD remake. HD remake =/= remake. They don't completely rebuild the game from the ground up with groundbreaking graphics and the like, they just sharpen up textures, possibly music quality, and cutscenes to work in HD. Hence why they're easy to make and why we saw one for FF10 and the Kingdom Hearts games. It only makes sense, moreso than a FF7 remake would, really. Plus, there's demand for it.

As for that bit about Squenix not being able to make good games anymore, you realize that Final Fantasy XIII is made by different people with very different ideas and ideologies than the previous games and that's why it's so different, right? Same for XV. And it hasn't been all bad. Lighting Returns was a lot of fun, my favorite XIII entry, Type-0 was a nice entry, Agito's still a thing, and XV's getting good reception, far more than when it was announced.

I can agree with what you are saying to some degree, but for me, i hated FF12, Lightning returns was complete garbage in my opinion and they shouldn't have bothered with it.

Anyhow i guess i'm a little stuck i'm my fanboy ways as i remember the times i grew up with final fantasy (Starting from 7 as the first ever FF game i got) i then went on to purchase every single final fantasy of which i've really enjoyed aside from the ones i mentioned earlier.

I'm not saying all games are too easy or lack story, for example look at the Souls series, i also like what Square-enix did with tomb raider. What i'm trying to get at, is a lot of games these days are purely based on releasing half a game, then to rape your wallet with DLC that should of been included in games.

I can see your point about timing, if square did become hard up, then releasing FF7 would make sense. however i wish i had the link to the resource which had an interview with Squares lead developer who basically said, he'd love to do it but would cost a lot of money etc etc.

I can name a few games that lacked in every aspect, just look at any Call of duty game not created by Treyarch, MW2 took me around 1-2 hours to complete the entire story, whilst the multiplayer was damn awesome, the campaign lacked so much, as did Battlefield 4. Games these days seem to solely focus on multiplayer (with the exceptions of games like the elder scrolls, the souls series etc).

I don't know, maybe its just me, i love games with a great story and it kills me a little inside that games i see are usually all hype and never live up to the actual hype they get. I'll throw it out here (and i'm sure i'm gunna get a lot of hate for saying this) but "the last of us" was rated 10/10 and was given so many awards, yet i personally hated the hell out of it because it was boring, there was no gameplay value (it was all, watch a cut scene, find some infected, choose to fight or avoid, run around aimlessly, rinse and repeat). I guess you could say i miss the strategy of games like FF6,7,8,9,and 10 by where turn based combat made or broke you depending on your choices, you could go level up before progressing the story, or explore at your leisure, you could find multiple ways to use your characters which to me you just can't seem to do in most games.

 

[RedJ]

Either last year or the year before they did an E3 video set to the same song so I don't think the song has anything to do with it.............................. but then they also had the time rewinding thing and they wouldn't be that cruel, to put such an obvious tease in and then make it for something else, right? ...right?

They did the time rewinding thing while talking about Life is Strange, which I think uses time rewinding somehow.

 

[Mana1]

Well it's confirmed and looks awesome (: maybe I'll actually play this version.

When does the actual SE Conference begin? Isn't it sometime today?

 

[machomuu]

Wow, this team for whatever this PlatinumGames game is. HOLY SHIT IT'S YOKO TARO I FUCKING KNEW IT. EVERYONE RUN.

Oh, it's NIER. Wow. If it's Yoko Taro, it'll be nothing like the original, I'd imagine.

And it's PS4 eeeeeeeeeh.

And it's called Nier...um. Nier...uh.

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Oooh, Kingdom Hearts stuff. And no translator. Fun. Oh, no, wait, more FF7.

Oh, hooray, a mobile Kingdom Hearts. I ALWAYS wanted this! YES. WOOH YEEEEEEEEEEEEEESNOGODPLEASESTOP.

Alright, real KH3. And Tangled'll be in it. Lovin' the artistic direction. The fighting seems a lot more imaginative and creative than the others, incredibly varied. The battle music's absolutely beautiful, if that's what it is. And The worlds look vast and large. I'm interested.

 

[OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire]

Yes, they showed KH III! I like Sora's new outfit the best out of all the ones he's had as it's simple.

 

[machomuu]

Hm...Project Setsuna. Setsuna means "Split-Second", so I don't think it really gives anything to speculate other than the fact that it may have to do with how- Well, that'd be mostly wild speculation.

Everything's a toss-up with this title, it being by a new studio and details being sparse. But I'm interested. Last time something like this happened we got The World Ends With You, one of my favorite games, so we'll see.