Ideas & Feedback for BTB & Battle Server

[Nah]

PokeCommunity team archive y/n?

 

[Anti]

PokeCommunity team archive y/n?

can you expand on this a little more?

 

[Polar Spectrum]

Not to abruptly interject on Nahkrom's idea, but if it's what I'm guessing it is, I'm totally all for it.

If nothing else just to have the ability to share teams we've been using not to be improved upon or hear suggestions for changes to be made to them, or critique; but just to document and for the purpose of information, as well as sharing with other battlers which we may not be able to play against etc.

 

[Nah]

Btw, I'm against splitting BTB into a Smogon and a non-Smogon section

can you expand on this a little more?

Basically this, but made by PC users instead.

It was just a random thought I had

 

[punkysaur]

Wanted to give my views on the current standard of rating in rmt's.
I have heard many people complain that the rmt thread are a troll here.But I don't think so.There might be some cases but not very much.
Some people like anti,nah,platinumdude,etc(forgive me those whose names are not given!) give very good(or great) reviews.But the sad thing is they only are the ones who review and actually their reviews are of some(or great?) help.
There are many good players who understand this metagame very well.But why don't they post?
I think this is due to lack of motivation/initiative.They are really bored to share their knowledge or are either pissed off seeing the team that is for rating.
So I think that there should be something like a badge system like the system smogon has for rmt's.
I think those people who seriously rate with the view to help the thread poster should be rewarded with some sort.So the badge system.

I know this is not a new suggestion but well I thought we need something like this.I haven't stated anything for the people creating rmt threads as there's plenty of thought going on that recently.

 

[Polar Spectrum]

Btw, I'm against splitting BTB into a Smogon and a non-Smogon section

Oh hell no. That'd be like that one doctor suess book where there were the guys with one star on their bellies, and the guys with two stars on their bellies, and they fought that eternal pointless war over the minuscule difference of one vs two stars even though they were the exact same creature.

No no, that'd just instigate inane conflict.

What I got excited about before, was somewhere for specifically cartridge and showdown based discussions. And then, a seemingly better alternative was suggested, of just utilizing more precise tags to specify threads as either of those.

 

[Anti]

Btw, I'm against splitting BTB into a Smogon and a non-Smogon section

Basically this, but made by PC users instead.

It was just a random thought I had

yeah, definitely agree with the first part. would be a total overreaction to a problem that isn't actually that severe.

as for the team archive thing, i'm not against it, but i think it would only be fair to see what teams from here we'd actually put in. not that they have to be super duper stellar--we aren't smogon posers, or shouldn't be, anyway--but idek where we'd begin tbh.

@punkysaur: with the rmt thing, this issue has been brought up before, and when i used to try to egg people on about it in the past, the issue seemed to be more that their advice wasn't accomplishing anything. people either wouldn't take it, would take it and then leave and never be seen again, etc. i think people will only want to post when they feel like there is a connection of some sort to the community that exists here. to be honest, i think that's a very fair reason not to post, and i'm not sure it's really a *problem* though it definitely isn't ideal.

 

[Nah]

What I got excited about before, was somewhere for specifically cartridge and showdown based discussions.

Isn't that basically the same thing?

And then, a seemingly better alternative was suggested, of just utilizing more precise tags to specify threads as either of those.

But yeah, this'd be better imo.

as for the team archive thing, i'm not against it, but i think it would only be fair to see what teams from here we'd actually put in. not that they have to be super duper stellar--we aren't smogon posers, or shouldn't be, anyway--but idek where we'd begin tbh.

It's not something that needs to be thought about right now since there's more important things to deal with, but yeah, we'd need some teams to put in it first.

 

[Polar Spectrum]

^ No, rather than 2 different sections (sub-forums) specifically based on smogon or not smogon, which I'm pretty certain would just fan fires and contribute to a divide and really just dumb hostility, the idea would've been to keep BTB whole, but provide spaces within it (not entire subforums, perhaps just threads or something) specifically for both individually cart and sim. We already do a bit of this intrinsically though with battle server and 3DS tournaments and stuff anyways though.

Perhaps I'm wording this really poorly :I

rephrased -
If any divide were to happen, I think it would be a terrible idea for myriad reasons to base it off smogon and not smogon rather than cartridge vs simulator.
Besides, there are totally non smogon showdown users and very smogon oriented cartridge players.

 

[Anti]

i don't get why we would impose arbitrary divisions on the forum regardless. what is stopping people from posting that content now? if the answer is "those threads always go to shit," then i'd rather just have stricter moderation and/or rules about not being a jackass to people who play other metas. it's a solution in search of a problem.

 

[Polar Spectrum]

^ I'd back that last part of what you just said as well because it's a great idea in my opinion, but the issue isn't 'we need separation so people can post content that isn't being posted otherwise' the issue is 'people are shot down for creating threads and commenting in existing threads for not being familiar with premises regulars of the BTB forum assume are universal to all battl-ing/ers, and scorn them for not already being knowledgeable about and utilizing.' ... My proposed 'issue' is very wordy apparently lol.

But; as I did also say before, I've redacted my support for that, for goooood reasons, and I'd probably be more behind both what you said about moderation, as well as the more active use of the 'showdown', 'battle spot', 'wifi', 'singles ou', 'vgc' etc tags and thread titles.

 

[skyburial]

So Zekrom is a BTB Mod now? It looks as though congratulations are in order.

Still in opposition of a smoge split.

 

[srinator]

So Zekrom is a BTB Mod now? It looks as though congratulations are in order.

.

What

 

[Detox]

What was the decision on the teambuilding competition

Or was there one

 

[skyburial]

What

I looked back at the post I was talking about and it looks like I misread >_<

Coffee is important.

 

[Zeffy]

What was the decision on the teambuilding competition

Or was there one

I was going to takeover it but I went into an unexpected leave of absence. Taking a look into it now, I see that the last round wasn't concluded properly. I'll take care of that right away! However, I don't promise on having another round until after the get-together because I've way too many responsibilities to uphold right now.

That said, if anyone wants to host it for a couple of rounds feel free to contact me. :)

 

[srinator]

Okay so we had a small discussion on the server today about the btb forum, and zeffy mentioned he will be taking some stuff with hstaff. But I thought it would be nice to point out what was said along with a few of my own suggestions.

The first thing that was brought up was enforcing a rule for rmt's that would insist user to submit teams that were complete rather than asking us to build it, since that isn't rmt and there is already a thread (team building workshop) for it. To avoid such hassle we also thought about the possibility of bringing back thread approvals, which would be really nice right now since we a lot more activity than there was a year back.
So basically a stricter guidelines for rmt's, something like smogons that would include a bit of descriptions only just not as strict (lol :x)

I also suggested that btb be restructured a bit. The main forum would only be home to discussions and rmt's would be in a different sub section all together like the in game section. The section would also contain tags like cart, oras ou, battle spot, vgc etc. and have threads like the team building workshop and replay critique stickied in the main forum and things like the threat list and introduction to competitive battle stickied in the rmt section.
This would not only make it look more organised but also elegant.

Thread approval is up for discussion imo, since zeffy said he could merge incomplete teams into the workshop thread, but I think it would be nice to make thread approval a thing again.

 

[Nah]

So Zekrom is a BTB Mod now? It looks as though congratulations are in order.

idk what made you think that

Okay so we had a small discussion on the server today about the btb forum, and zeffy mentioned he will be taking some stuff with hstaff. But I thought it would be nice to point out what was said along with a few of my own suggestions.

The first thing that was brought up was enforcing a rule for rmt's that would insist user to submit teams that were complete rather than asking us to build it, since that isn't rmt and there is already a thread (team building workshop) for it. To avoid such hassle we also thought about the possibility of bringing back thread approvals, which would be really nice right now since we a lot more activity than there was a year back.
So basically a stricter guidelines for rmt's, something like smogons that would include a bit of descriptions only just not as strict (lol :x)

I also suggested that btb be restructured a bit. The main forum would only be home to discussions and rmt's would be in a different sub section all together like the in game section. The section would also contain tags like cart, oras ou, battle spot, vgc etc. and have threads like the team building workshop and replay critique stickied in the main forum and things like the threat list and introduction to competitive battle stickied in the rmt section.
This would not only make it look more organised but also elegant.

Thread approval is up for discussion imo, since zeffy said he could merge incomplete teams into the workshop thread, but I think it would be nice to make thread approval a thing again.

I do kinda like all this. We get enough Team Help threads that they could become their own subsection. I think though that the RMT section should be the only one that needs to have threads be approved. I never really liked thread approval in this section back when we had it and don't think that all the kinds of threads need to undergo thread approval.

But yeah, regulating RMT threads might be nice. I suppose that's there's the issue of people posting threads that don't meet the criteria and them not understanding why their thread wasn't approved. There's also the issue of the fact that a good chunk of the Team Help threads are made by randoms that hardly post in the thread after making it and are never seen again after getting help, but I don't think that any of that is enough to make us not try it out.

And I like that the possible restructure gives extra space for stickies. I've always wanted the OU threatlist, team workshop, and some of our other resources to be stickied.

 

[skyburial]

idk what made you think that

Lol. So how it happened was this. I was reading this post at 12:30 at night between winks:

Btw, I'm against splitting BTB into a Smogon and a non-Smogon section

But I read it like I marked it.

So yeah. Not my finest moment.

 

[Detox]

I was going to takeover it but I went into an unexpected leave of absence. Taking a look into it now, I see that the last round wasn't concluded properly. I'll take care of that right away! However, I don't promise on having another round until after the get-together because I've way too many responsibilities to uphold right now.

That said, if anyone wants to host it for a couple of rounds feel free to contact me. :)

I think that someone else (idr who exactly) proposed some potential changes to it a page or two back, so perhaps those could be taken into consideration.