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Which Pokemon should NEVER be a part of a competitive team?

LegendChu

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  • The reverse of my previous thread "Which Pokemon should ALWAYS be a part of a competitive team?"

    In your opinion, which Pokemon do you think doesn't deserve to ever be part of a regular 6-Pokemon Competitive Team?

    Pika Pika :chu:
     
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  • Not going to say the obvious "unevolved Pokemon" or "Pokemon that aren't fully evolved". Of all Pokemon that can't evolve, I'd say Dunsparce, Beautifly, most of the Pikachu rip-offs, and Delibird come to mind when I think of Pokemon that are complete trash competitively.
     

    Mawa

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  • most of the Pikachu rip-offs

    Have you forget about Pachirisu in the world championship ? ;)

    For me, I won't use a Pokemon under 450 base stats. I know some people who won't use a Pokemon under 500. But a lot of my favorite Pokemon are under 500 lol.

    There is a lot of Pokemon I love but I won't play with, like Farfetch'D, Delibird, Dodrio, Dewgong, Arbok, Sandslash, Venomoth, Cherrim (althought these last 3 I could definetly made one some day), Fearrow, Butterfree, Beedrill, Raticate..... a lot more too...
     
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    I would not condone the use of Castform. This Pokémon is simply not good. Why anyone would scrape the bottom of the barrel and use this Pokémon is beyond me.
     
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    I'd say, all but like maybe 60-80 Pokemon shouldn't be used competitively.. Because those select few are vastly superior competitively compared to the rest of Pokemon, unfortunately.

    A personal disappointment of mine is Aurorus. I love it's design, and I thought *maybe* that with Refrigerate ability + Hyper Voice I could get away with it in the Doubles UU format in Pokemon Showdown, but alas it remains crapadoodle. I doubt it could find use in VGC or BattleSpot doubles, either.

    As far as Pokemon that are used competitively and don't deserve the usage they get, I'd say Typhlosion.. Of course it's not used often at all, but I've seen it a few more times than I should have (which is not at all.) Kudos to people for using the Pokemon if they just like it though, I guess.
     
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    Dragonite and Lucario.

    Also Scarf Intimidate Tauros.

    And Thunder Gyarados.


    Are you assuming a Smogon OU singles format as the only "competitive" one?
    But even then, Dragonite is still a relatively solid addition. It's especially potent using Dragon Dance if it gets the right opening to use it. But even without Dragon Dance, it's attack + decent bulk and ability make a good offensive Pokemon , even with the rather mediocre speed.

    Lucario is probably not the greatest choice, but it can survive on an OU team without being dead weight. I certainly wouldn't say it should "NEVER be a part of a competitive team."
     

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    Also Scarf Intimidate Tauros.

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    Idk personally I don't like to use mons that are over reliant on one move after setting up(BD Azumarill, etc.) or weak Assault Vest mons such as Raikou. Also avoid using mons that are easily outclassed by something similar.

    And ofc use common sense and don't use shitty mons that serve no purpose than being cute on your team :^) Castform is an exception
     
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    Guess what was removed from PS Random Battles a while ago?

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    Enough said.

    @ People mentioning Dunsparce: just wait until you face a Body Slam or Glare / Headbutt / Roost Dunsparce. Flinches for days.
     

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    Are you assuming a Smogon OU singles format as the only "competitive" one?
    But even then, Dragonite is still a relatively solid addition. It's especially potent using Dragon Dance if it gets the right opening to use it. But even without Dragon Dance, it's attack + decent bulk and ability make a good offensive Pokemon , even with the rather mediocre speed.

    Lucario is probably not the greatest choice, but it can survive on an OU team without being dead weight. I certainly wouldn't say it should "NEVER be a part of a competitive team."

    Nah they are both very bad.

    Dragonite has 4 bad MSS (Extremesuck is useless on DD sets) and every team featuring fairies, Lando-T, Prankster, Quagsire, Skarm, Hippow, pokemon with def eves its dead weight and will contribute near to nothing to match ups aka vs all teams. Same with Lucario.

    I am p sure I can beat some lower ladder people with an unown

    Hmmmm didnt help you vs Clefairy or Farfetch'd tho. ;x
     
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    Dragonite always seems like it could function as an interesting defensive wall/supporter, but its typing just isn't suitable for that. e.g. Heal Bell Nite would be a good Keldeo check if it weren't for Icy Wind.

    Lead with it for a guaranteed Tailwind (Multiscale)? ;D
     

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  • Dragonite always seems like it could function as an interesting defensive wall/supporter, but its typing just isn't suitable for that. e.g. Heal Bell Nite would be a good Keldeo check if it weren't for Icy Wind.

    Lead with it for a guaranteed Tailwind (Multiscale)? ;D

    The other problem with Heal Bell Dragonite is that it can't have Multiscale, since that ability was introduced way after XD: Gale of Darkness, thus making Heal Bell and Multiscale illegal together. No, Dragonite can't have Heal Bell via tutor either.
     
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