Anime/Manga Digimon New Series 2015 !

[Satoshi Ookami]

Suppose , If I wrote Adventure 02 then Davis would be a kid who simply pretending to be a comic relief when he is actually very serious , mature and damaged person with a Dark past! Something like having an abusive Father who's in Jail for murdering his mother.

And this, children, is why Famon was not chosen as a Digi Adv02 writer.

 

[shadowmoon522]

Honestly , I would prefer someone associate with Darkness for Kari ! Someone who also affected by the Dark Ocean .
Digimon Anime could use a new protagonist who's already broken and damage until his partner Digimon and friends help him recover.
FYI : I'm not taking about a delinquent , I'm talking about some loner who's often unnoticed by others or Someone who pretend to be a comic relief to hide his dark side.
Suppose , If I wrote Adventure 02 then Davis would be a kid who simply pretending to be a comic relief when he is actually very serious , mature and damaged person with a Dark past! Something like having an abusive Father who's in Jail for murdering his mother.

And this, children, is why Famon was not chosen as a Digi Adv02 writer.

i'm pretty sure it was due more to a age restriction, child labor laws & such.
also, you both just insulted the joker

 

[Taemin]

Spoiler:

That isn't really answered yet. There have been some guesses made through the fandom, but I wasn't sure if you wanted those mentioned. That's why I edited this post, to remove the possible spoilers.

The main question about the 02 Chosen being missing is why does no one mention them. Hopefully that gets rectified in a later movie.

I should also probably state that I still haven't actually watched tri. yet.

There's a computer screen in the first movie that shows a couple of their names mix in with the others. @ the 02 Chosen Children thing

I really hope they make some type of appearance. ;;

Also have you watched Tri yet? I waited a bit myself, but it's really good, aaaaaah.

 

[Skip Class]

Did post the bit with their names on the screen being kept track of when I did my recap when the movie came out.
Doubt their names would be on their and then not make an appearance lol. Their names are on their for some reason one way or another.

Spoiler:

First 5 minutes we've already seen, and despite most people disliking the 02 cast I really did like them a lot! I'm glad that they were pushed away as "just to busy to be seen" and seeing them thrashed to bits in the opening was aside from being a bit shocking, was a lot better than what I was hoping for with the 02 cast just being shoved to the side without a great reason.

Before I stop talking bout the 02 cast, I'll just leave this map monitor thing that I only just noticed when screencaps were posted, that the 02 cast had names on there. You can see Daisuke, Ken, Miyako and Iori (his name twice) being kept track of, however their location is unknown.

I've read theories prior to the airing that this may be in another time dimension or something(?) but since their names are here I guess that changes things up a but? They could possibly be in the digital world if that tracker only keeps track of them in the real world.

Was watching a couple more speculations last night to whether Takeru and Hikari would still have the D3 digivice from 02 or would they have their digivices revert back to their original or their digivices never changed from the original, however we see Takeru use his D3.

I really do hope we get some 02 cast answers soon. It's currently like the 02 cast have been erased from existence aside from the tracker. If this was normal, I feel like the older 01 cast would still call the 02 cast when they were having their meetings, but they were completely not mentioned at all. Tai also gets new goggles within the film noting that the previous goggles he gave to Daisuke are still missing.

 

[saifors]

I was discussing the Wonderswan games with a friend and something occurred to me.
Digimon in Tri are getting "infected" and they're sort of like possessed, what if this is all the doing of Millenniumon? He was the creator of Apocalymon (which created Devimon, Miyotismon and Etemon) and the Dark Masters, he also possessed many Digimon to do his bidding and the Diaboromon from Our War Game. So it could be possible for him to be behind everything again.
For those that don't know, there'es a bit more lore to the Adventureverse than one may have realized: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Synopsis/DigimonWonderSwanGames

 

[shadowmoon522]

I was discussing the Wonderswan games with a friend and something occurred to me.
Digimon in Tri are getting "infected" and they're sort of like possessed, what if this is all the doing of Millenniumon? He was the creator of Apocalymon (which created Devimon, Miyotismon and Etemon) and the Dark Masters, he also possessed many Digimon to do his bidding and the Diaboromon from Our War Game. So it could be possible for him to be behind everything again.
For those that don't know, there'es a bit more lore to the Adventureverse than one may have realized: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Synopsis/DigimonWonderSwanGames

xeed & monodromon got forcefully fused together into one digiegg, then after that ryo was given the choice to either go back to the adventure universe or go to the tamer universe.
he chose the tamer universe with absolutely no explanation on how his father got there. the only guess i got is that when he chose that universe his parents where forcefully transported there with him or they are adopted parents
regardless, what remains of millenniumon's evil was purified when ryo & cyberdramon biomerged into justimon

 

[saifors]

regardless, what remains of millenniumon's evil was purified when ryo & cyberdramon biomerged into justimon

Wait, where was this stated? I don't remember it being mentioned.

 

[Astinus]

There's a computer screen in the first movie that shows a couple of their names mix in with the others. @ the 02 Chosen Children thing

I really hope they make some type of appearance. ;;

Also have you watched Tri yet? I waited a bit myself, but it's really good, aaaaaah.

Did post the bit with their names on the screen being kept track of when I did my recap when the movie came out.
Doubt their names would be on their and then not make an appearance lol. Their names are on their for some reason one way or another.

I knew about the computer screen. (Despite still haven't watched tri., I have seen a ton of screenshots for it, so I know most of the story already.) So I knew that the writers didn't completely forget about the Zero Two Chosen. I meant that the characters did. None of the Chosen mentioned that a few members of their team were missing in any way. No mentions of how they should have been in school (since Takeru, Hikari, Daisuke, and Miyako should all be at the same junior high school), or anything about how they're missing.

Maybe the battle with Alphamon happened the same day that tri. begins, so the rest of the Chosen don't know about it yet. Maybe it happened so long ago that the rest of the Chosen have accepted the loss of a few members. Or, another theory is that maybe there's some amnesia/time travel involved in the plot.

I can understand that the writers wanted to create some mystery about the Zero Two Chosen, and they did that by showing their names on the computer with their whereabouts "unknown," and even having evil!Imperialdramon on the poster for the next movie.

But it's still just odd that there isn't a mention of the Zero Two Chosen on a personal level. Like, in a recent magazine tease, it's mentioned that Hikari and a few fellow girls talk about the cute boys in their classes, like Takeru and Daisuke. If Daisuke's mentioned that way in a magazine, then why wasn't his name dropped in the actual movie? Or something mentioned about Iori and Miyako, since they (supposedly) still live in the same apartment building as Takeru? That's where my--and other people's--complaint lies: that the Zero Two Chosen weren't mentioned by the other characters, especially the two members that actually worked with them, at all.

 

[shadowmoon522]

Wait, where was this stated? I don't remember it being mentioned.

its more of a theory on when exactly the evil was purified. zeedmillenniummon is half of ryo's parnter's data & one of the theories is that cyberdramon's charizard-like attitude in tamers was from the millenniummon half of his data & that burning drive to challenge stronger digimon and sour attitude disappeared after ryo & cyberdramon biomerged.
also, if i remember correctly i'm pretty sure ryo can digivolve cyberdramon into zeedmillenniummon with a zeedmillenniummon card in brave tamers, rather then biomerging with him to become justimon
on a side note, cyberdramon is actually a fan-made digimon made into a real one after winning an art contest back in 1999

 

[saifors]

So it's a theory? It's a pretty good theory, as it makes sense but looking at how Millenniumon was defeated in Anode/Cathode and came back after that without much of an explanation, they could totally pull an "it sleeps dormant inside of Cyberdramon as it tries to possess digimon from the Adventureverse to come rescue him".
Because I can actually see them doing it as it would explain the infected and give them a chance to get Ryo involved in some way, which they might want to do with all the nostalgia they have in Tri, I mean Ryo was liked by the japanese fandom quite a lot.

 

[shadowmoon522]

So it's a theory? It's a pretty good theory, as it makes sense but looking at how Millenniumon was defeated in Anode/Cathode and came back after that without much of an explanation, they could totally pull an "it sleeps dormant inside of Cyberdramon as it tries to possess digimon from the Adventureverse to come rescue him".
Because I can actually see them doing it as it would explain the infected and give them a chance to get Ryo involved in some way, which they might want to do with all the nostalgia they have in Tri, I mean Ryo was liked by the japanese fandom quite a lot.

Millenniumon's defeat & revival in anode/cathodehas more to do with mille's natural abilities, or more accurately the Moon=Milleniumon that spawned within his mind

 

[Taemin]

That's where my--and other people's--complaint lies: that the Zero Two Chosen weren't mentioned by the other characters, especially the two members that actually worked with them, at all.

Pardon me for clipping that one part, but it's true. I was wondering the same thing. I felt it was a bit of a plot hole, everything that happened in Tri, and not once did any of them mention informing the Zero Two cast. At the time, I brushed it off as the original crew maybe just not wanting them to get involved. Since they've been Chosen Children longer, maybe they wanted to handle this on their own and have things go back to normal afterwards. Though, even if that were the case, you'd think their names would come up. Unless it was literally just something that had to be OOC for them, if the staff didn't want to mention the other characters at all until after movie one. Since the big hype for this one was always the Adventure cast. Maybe they're saving the Zero Two hype for one of the other movies, and this was just bad a side effect - them not even being mentioned in the first one.

 

[shadowmoon522]

Pardon me for clipping that one part, but it's true. I was wondering the same thing. I felt it was a bit of a plot hole, everything that happened in Tri, and not once did any of them mention informing the Zero Two cast. At the time, I brushed it off as the original crew maybe just not wanting them to get involved. Since they've been Chosen Children longer, maybe they wanted to handle this on their own and have things go back to normal afterwards. Though, even if that were the case, you'd think their names would come up. Unless it was literally just something that had to be OOC for them, if the staff didn't want to mention the other characters at all until after movie one. Since the big hype for this one was always the Adventure cast. Maybe they're saving the Zero Two hype for one of the other movies, and this was just bad a side effect - them not even being mentioned in the first one.

wow, i didn't know people where this oblivious
from the perspective of the original 8, the 02 children where sealed into the digital world a year prior due to the digigates being no longer functional and they had no way to contact them since.
that was clearly stated from get-go
just because they can call the houses of the 02 children, it dose not mean they can get in contact with the 02 children considering their not there.
they can't contact them, they have had faith in them since years before they got sealed into the digital world and current events take priority over events that have passed & nothing can be done about.
why would they even bother mentioning them? there would be no point in it.
and can you really blame the writers for doing it this way when the majority of the fanbase hates 02?
their gonna show up later regardless, its not like their dead.
as i stated before the main problem is not with the story, but rather how its been split up over such huge gaps of time.
people are quick to jump to assumptions & ridicule an incomplete story.

 

[Taemin]

wow, i didn't know people where this oblivious
from the perspective of the original 8, the 02 children where sealed into the digital world a year prior due to the digigates being no longer functional and they had no way to contact them since.
that was clearly stated from get-go
just because they can call the houses of the 02 children, it dose not mean they can get in contact with the 02 children considering their not there.
they can't contact them, they have had faith in them since years before they got sealed into the digital world and current events take priority over events that have passed & nothing can be done about.
why would they even bother mentioning them? there would be no point in it.
and can you really blame the writers for doing it this way when the majority of the fanbase hates 02?
their gonna show up later regardless, its not like their dead.
as i stated before the main problem is not with the story, but rather how its been split up over such huge gaps of time.
people are quick to jump to assumptions & ridicule an incomplete story.

02 was what got me into Digimon in the first place, I had no idea the majority of fans hated it. I've always heard love for the first two series, and then opinions going to **** after that. I loved the first four series myself. vov

I didn't mean that they couldn't get in contact with them, I meant them not mentioning the 02 children as friends at all ever seemed kind of out of character, since with matters concerning Digimon, they were all very close, and close as friends. I just thought it was strange that they never once said anyone's name.

 

[saifors]

02 was what got me into Digimon in the first place, I had no idea the majority of fans hated it. I've always heard love for the first two series, and then opinions going to **** after that. I loved the first four series myself. vov

There were a bunch of people hoping that it got retconned, 02 is often regarded a mess due to it's plot holes and changing direction of the story so often that the writers had no idea what to do with it.
Which is why people wanted a retcon so that those plot holes stopped existing.

 

[shadowmoon522]

There were a bunch of people hoping that it got retconned, 02 is often regarded a mess due to it's plot holes and changing direction of the story so often that the writers had no idea what to do with it.
Which is why people wanted a retcon so that those plot holes stopped existing.

ok, the good question in this is which parts where considered plot holes to each person.
because with how much the logic involving adventures digital world/real world barrier changes from each time some villain or overseer messes with it, it would be highly illogical to try & bind it by any kind of logic.
tri itself brought one good question into the mix, namely when did gennai start trusting random non-digidestined with data normally reserved for him, izzy & the few other digidestined capable of comprehending the most of it?
their gonna have to bring a lot of information forth with the rest of the movies that will fill things on on that question & fill the 02 plot holes.

 

[Kenchiin]

ok, the good question in this is which parts where considered plot holes to each person.

There are some things here that are clearly plot holes, regardless the person who speaks, such as
The Dark Ocean monster thingy for Hikari (Dagomon, Dragonmon, whatever) and the Daemon thing with the dark spores on Ken, like, what. Apart from that, yeah, not everything is "plot-hole" universally, some fans are arguing that the most stupid details are errors, like, it's a kid's show for God sake, don't look too much into it.

I'm just hoping they will not start creating new plot holes lol

 

[shadowmoon522]

There are some things here that are clearly plot holes, regardless the person who speaks, such as
The Dark Ocean monster thingy for Hikari (Dagomon, Dragonmon, whatever) and the Daemon thing with the dark spores on Ken, like, what. Apart from that, yeah, not everything is "plot-hole" universally, some fans are arguing that the most stupid details are errors, like, it's a kid's show for God sake, don't look too much into it.

I'm just hoping they will not start creating new plot holes lol

dragomon is the correct spelling for it, and the dub for his master's voice really messed up in transition from Japanese.
the entire episode was just a big reference to the call of the cthulhu and was meant to be a lot dark & creepier then what the dub was, kari's inferiority in comparison to tai was ripped out & was the part where tk was pissed off at her for comparing herself to tai after class was taken out.
as for the regards to whether or not the "scubamon" where really captured or if it was all a ruse was meant to be a lot less clear then what it was in the dub, as the dub went for the whole "it was a trick" thing.
there was never meant to be a clear ending to it, as it was meant to be an

that scares the

s out of little kids & left them to wonder about it.
as for the daemon corps, what was the plot hole with that? the fact that they just came out of nowhere and somehow knew of information that no one really should have known about to begin with? it never made much since that daemon & myotismon even knew of millenniumon's dark spore going into ken's neck, unless they where told about it before he was forced into fusing with monodromon or where watching from a far as myotis seemed to be doing.
the writers where more then likely planing on an adventure season 3 for that part, which obviously never panned out for them and like the writers before them they got replaced as tamers came around

 

[saifors]

In some interviews it was revealed that various writers for 02 had their own idea to how the plot would develop.
The Dark Ocean plotline was done by Chiaki Konaka (the one who wrote the entirety of Digimon Tamers and is known for works like Serial Experiments Lain) and it WAS meant to go somewhere but it was dropped due to eventually having been delayed so much that it would no longer make sense to have the ultimate level Dragomon as a villain.

 

[shadowmoon522]

In some interviews it was revealed that various writers for 02 had their own idea to how the plot would develop.
The Dark Ocean plotline was done by Chiaki Konaka (the one who wrote the entirety of Digimon Tamers and is known for works like Serial Experiments Lain) and it WAS meant to go somewhere but it was dropped due to eventually having been delayed so much that it would no longer make sense to have the ultimate level Dragomon as a villain.

so basically the main writers kept pushing him off til they got replaced by him?
either way, as i said before, that episode was it was meant to be an

that scares the

s out of little kids & left them to wonder about it.
even if they where going to expand upon it, it doesn't change how it's set up