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[Weaselnamedfee2]

So maybe this isn't the simplest of questions but I've been curious about it. I play Pokemon go but the only person I've played with is a buddy of mine and we've always been within 2-3 levels from eachother. When were together all the same Pokemon pop up on both our phones, but I'm curious to know what would happen if I were to walk around with a very low level player. I'm level 25 as of now, so would pokes with CPs of 1000+ be popping up on a level 5 trainers screen if we were walking around together? Would the game inhibit my chance to catch rare and powerful Pokemon or would it give a new player the chance to potentially catch them?

 

[Neltharion83]

So maybe this isn't the simplest of questions but I've been curious about it. I play Pokemon go but the only person I've played with is a buddy of mine and we've always been within 2-3 levels from eachother. When were together all the same Pokemon pop up on both our phones, but I'm curious to know what would happen if I were to walk around with a very low level player. I'm level 25 as of now, so would pokes with CPs of 1000+ be popping up on a level 5 trainers screen if we were walking around together? Would the game inhibit my chance to catch rare and powerful Pokemon or would it give a new player the chance to potentially catch them?

The same pokemon spawn for everyone, the exceptions are incense and eggs.

Those pokemon even have the same IV values and size (in terms of weight / XL / XS), but the level varies based on your trainer level. It cannot have a higher level than your trainer level.

So a level 1 player can catch a dragonite, but it will have a very low level and very low CP.

 

[Neltharion83]

I have a question, and maybe it is not simple, maybe it needs its own thread.

I know how strengths and weaknesses work for single-type pokemon and that its a really powerful mechanic when it comes to taking down arenas.

How does it work with double type pokemon? Many have two types, like grass/psycho, grass/poison, Ice/Water.

How is it calculated, and does it depend on the specific attacks/moves you face or does it just depend on pokemon type?

To use an example, use the amazing vileplume i just caught. It is a grass/poison type, its attacks are acid (poison) and solar beam (grass). How good will it work as an attacker against what, and does that affect only acid or only solar beam in some cases?

 

[Weaselnamedfee2]

The same pokemon spawn for everyone, the exceptions are incense and eggs.

Those pokemon even have the same IV values and size (in terms of weight / XL / XS), but the level varies based on your trainer level. It cannot have a higher level than your trainer level.

So a level 1 player can catch a dragonite, but it will have a very low level and very low CP.

I understand that. I'm saying that when you're a low level trainer you don't come across high CP/evolved/rare Pokemon. At level 25 I get all kinds of Pokemon I never saw at lower levels. If a low level trainer walked with me would the same high CP Pokemon that spawn for me be available for them to catch? Or would it just be the same Pokemon with a lower CP than the one that spawns in my game?

 

[UltimateUmbreon]

I have a question, and maybe it is not simple, maybe it needs its own thread.

I know how strengths and weaknesses work for single-type pokemon and that its a really powerful mechanic when it comes to taking down arenas.

How does it work with double type pokemon? Many have two types, like grass/psycho, grass/poison, Ice/Water.

How is it calculated, and does it depend on the specific attacks/moves you face or does it just depend on pokemon type?

To use an example, use the amazing vileplume i just caught. It is a grass/poison type, its attacks are acid (poison) and solar beam (grass). How good will it work as an attacker against what, and does that affect only acid or only solar beam in some cases?

In the case of double types, you then have to look at the type effectiveness of the move being used AGAINST your pokemon to determine the resistivity. When looking at the effectiveness of your pokemon against an opposing one, you have to consider the type of the MOVE vs. the type of the opposing pokemon.

In your Vileplume example, a fire attack, which is probably the most common super effective type used against grass, would remain super effective against Vileplume because it is neither super effective nor ineffective against poison, so the poison typing wouldn't affect it. However, let's say you're going up against a pokemon with Earthquake (ground). Ground is usually not very effective against grass, but because ground moves are super effective against poison types, Earthquake would have a "normal" effectiveness against Vileplume (super effective against the grass part and not very effective against the poison part of Vileplume).

So in essence, you look at the effectiveness against of each of Vileplume's types and both effects will stack on top of each other, either emphasizing an effect or neutralizing the effect. You can use such a logic with any typing combination. I hope that clarifies it!

I understand that. I'm saying that when you're a low level trainer you don't come across high CP/evolved/rare Pokemon. At level 25 I get all kinds of Pokemon I never saw at lower levels. If a low level trainer walked with me would the same high CP Pokemon that spawn for me be available for them to catch? Or would it just be the same Pokemon with a lower CP than the one that spawns in my game?

Neltharion83 is correct. If you both encounter the same Dragonite. Yours can be a much higher CP because you can encounter, I believe, pokemon that have levels up to one level above yours. So your Dragonite might be a CP of 2000 because you're a higher level while theirs may be a CP of 200 because of their low level. Or maybe you get unlucky and you both encounter the Dragonite with a CP of 200, you're not guaranteed to see high CP pokemon when you're higher level. I'm level 27 and I still see pokemon with a CP of 10.

 

[Weaselnamedfee2]

I get low CP Pokemon too at level 25, but the whole random spawn concept doesn't seem accurate. Coming across a Pokemon while with a low level player and their Pokemon having a lower CP makes sense, but what about evolved/rare Pokemon? It's extremely obvious that in the game as you level up more rare Pokemon spawn near you. My question is that if I'm with low level players would my high level inhibit my ability to find rare/evolved Pokemon or could it increase the chances of them finding a Pokemon they typically wouldn't see given their level?

 

[Neltharion83]

I get low CP Pokemon too at level 25, but the whole random spawn concept doesn't seem accurate. Coming across a Pokemon while with a low level player and their Pokemon having a lower CP makes sense, but what about evolved/rare Pokemon? It's extremely obvious that in the game as you level up more rare Pokemon spawn near you. My question is that if I'm with low level players would my high level inhibit my ability to find rare/evolved Pokemon or could it increase the chances of them finding a Pokemon they typically wouldn't see given their level?

This is disproven by observation. Anyone who plays with friends knows that you are mistaken.

Also, the account i use with pokemesh is level 1, and that level 1 account sees exactly the same pokemon that i see with my lvl27 account.

 

[Neltharion83]

I understand that. I'm saying that when you're a low level trainer you don't come across high CP/evolved/rare Pokemon. At level 25 I get all kinds of Pokemon I never saw at lower levels. If a low level trainer walked with me would the same high CP Pokemon that spawn for me be available for them to catch? Or would it just be the same Pokemon with a lower CP than the one that spawns in my game?

Just yesterday i caught a Vileplume with two friends, we were level 26, 27 and 31.

All 3 vileplumes had different level and different CP, but they all had IVs of 15/03/13 and the acid/solar beam moveset. pokemesh did see the same vileplume with level 1 accounts, and fastpokemap did also see the same vileplume.

Really, play with friends and observe the truth. The question itself implies that you only ever play alone.

 

[Weaselnamedfee2]

Nobody really seems to understand what I'm getting at here. When I was low level I very rarely came across evolved forms of Pokemon. Now at level 25 I see them everywhere. Here's an example: At low levels walking around in places where there was certainly no one else playing I did not encounter Pokemon that I do now in the same places at a much higher level. How do people not see this? I get that if you're walking around with friends the same Pokemon will pop up with different CPs and all that, but to suggest I would have bumped into the Charizard at level 1 (with nobody else around me playing) as I did at level 25 is just silly. Baffles me how people think the spawn system is completely and utterly randomized.

 

[VisualJae]

^Your level does not matter. Absolutely, 100%, does not affect the species of Pokémon you encounter in the wild. Rare spawns can appear randomly anywhere. By your logic, just because you don't see anyone playing and you encounter a wild Charizard spawn doesn't mean some random level 5 player can't come along 3 minutes later and trigger the same Charizard spawn. How would you explain that for that player then?

I encountered my first wild Pidgeot in my bedroom on the first day of playing. One of my best friends' first Pokémon caught (besides the starter) was a wild Nidoqueen on his front porch, minutes after he created his account. I encountered my first wild Venusaur and Golem on my Mystic account when I was still in the teens for level. It's level 31 now and I've only encountered two more wild Venusaur since. My brother caught a wild Dragonite by the time he was level 10. My Valor account has a CP143 Dragonite that I caught before reaching level 10. It's level 18 now and I haven't encountered another one since. Please explain.

No need. This is all anecdotal, including your own experiences. But nothing in the game's code shows any evidence of Pokémon species spawns being influenced by a player's level and, from a developer's standpoint, is too much of a hassle to both set up and implement on a player to player basis across the world. It makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

FYI the spawn rates of rare and evolved Pokémon have increased in one of the more recent ninja updates, akin to nest migration updates.

 

[51Nisa]

I wish I could see some of these other evolved pokemon. All I have seen for days now is Weedle, pidgey, rats, caterpie. There is 7 pokestops within a 2 mile walk of my home and for some days now that is all that is appearing, nothing else showing on the sightings list either and it doesnt matter what time you go out, only chance this week of getting anything different is an egg hatch. On my sightings list righ now is 3 pokemon a pidgey a rat and a weedle.its getting a bit boring now nothing to entice you to go and look. Oh and I am on level 22 !!

 

[ichiDad]

Evolved pokemon can be very difficult to catch, so I often ignore them (if I already have them). Today I came across a 1452 CP Pidgeot! What a pain, I can't waste all my Ultra Balls on this. But it was a higher CP than any Pidgeot I have, so I decided to give it one razberry and one throw. I caught it! "Your Pidgeot is not likely to make much headway in battle". Oh well ...

When I was level 5 or so a bunch of us came across a Rapidash! Pokeballs were flying thick and fast at the beast. I think only one person caught it and we all lost most of our pokeballs.

 

[MizEileen]

51Nisa, please don't talk down the Ratattas, Pidgeys, Caterpie, and Weedles. They bring in candy. They bring in star dust. If you horde them and their candy and have a Lucky Egg... 2km eggs yield prime specimens of these. With enough candy, their evolved forms look pretty formidable.

ichDad you give me hope. I have the 1000 CP Rattata project on the back burner, but you make me believe it might be possible.

And ichDad, I've had my share of ammo thefts andPokeBall wastes trying to catch difficult critters. It's only ammo. There will be more. I'm not sure what the Appraiser did wrong with a 1452 Pidgeot. I have a 1075 point evolved specimen. I've never sent her to the appraiser. It could be what they call low IV. I think it would be wonderful to see more common creatures do their stuff in gyms. I can dream.

And Weaselnamefeedme2, I think you're right. I see a lot more Raticates and Venonats, not rare creatures per see but a step up, and there are also days I am wearing Poke Repellent, but when the Pokes are running they seem to be a bit fancier.

 

[Jonathan1990]

An Oddish I got just hatched from a 5km egg a few minutes ago with 535CP. How much CP would it get once evolving to a Vileplume? I currently have 88 candies. Vaporeon is the strongest now with 1152CP and it might overtake that.

 

[ichiDad]

Mystic: "Overall, your Pokemon is not likely to make much headway in battle"
Valor: "Overall, your Pokemon may not be great in battle, but I still like it!"
Instinct: "Overall, your Pokemon has room for improvement as far as battling goes."

All of these mean IV's are under 50%, which kind of the kiss of death for a pokemon. BUT, I have only one Snorlax over 1000 CP, in fact he's over 2000 CP! He is given the "kiss of death". But I keep his secret, I don't let anyone else know that. He's still a good gym defender.

 

[ichiDad]

In my experience, pokemon hatched from eggs are always level 20. Is this true? I am level 28 now.

 

[VisualJae]

In my experience, pokemon hatched from eggs are always level 20. Is this true? I am level 28 now.

Yes. Hatched Pokémon are capped at level 20, much like wild Pokémon are capped at level 30.

 

[Afterglow Ampharos]

I heard hearsay that this may be true, and I've seen what, in the game, might indicate it is. Could be confirmation bias though.

A) You throw a ball and it hits the Pokemon but hits outside the shrinking ring. The ring is large at the time.
B) You throw a ball and it hits the Pokemon but hits outside the shrinking ring. The ring is tiny at the time.

I have heard hearsay that B makes capture more likely than A. True? False?

 

[VisualJae]

I heard hearsay that this may be true, and I've seen what, in the game, might indicate it is. Could be confirmation bias though.

A) You throw a ball and it hits the Pokemon but hits outside the shrinking ring. The ring is large at the time.
B) You throw a ball and it hits the Pokemon but hits outside the shrinking ring. The ring is tiny at the time.

I have heard hearsay that B makes capture more likely than A. True? False?

Your goal should ALWAYS be to throw the ball when the capture ring is at the smallest. That is the single biggest factor in increasing the multiplier for your catch rate.

 

[51Nisa]

Personally I have not experienced which is best at all. For instance today trying to catch a Gastly
1) First ball Great Ball with a Razz Berry smack in the middle of orange circle and with Great Throw, it broke free.

2) Second Ball Great Ball again with a Razz smack in the middle once again with Great Throw, it broke free.

3) Third Ball this time Ultra Ball again with a Razz in the middle of the small circle and with an Excellent Throw, it broke free.

4) it poofed off.

I experience this a great deal and waste of 3 good poke balls and Razz Berries. To me it doesn't seem to matter if the poke ball is in the small or large circle. On the above attempts it should have been caught first attempt. I think its a ploy to empty your bag quicker in a hope you will buy more balls. If you are in a location as I am with only a few Poke stops within a walking distance this makes the game very frustrating.

I now if a Pokemon breaks free the first time I walk away from it due to the lack of poke stops to refill up easily. Probably only once a week I can be a passenger either in a car or on a bus to refill up, otherwise I am the one driving.