BadPokemon

Ok, so I watched about half of that video, but haven't gotten around to the other half. I'll watch the rest some time later today :)

Hey! What's up?

Yeah nothin' much. Glad to be part of the community. :) I can't believe there was a christian group and I never noticed it, I've been through that sub- forum so many times (checking to see if I've been accepted into the ghost fan club, still heard nothing from Gigabeat.) and never saw, lol.

Yeah, I am. and also totally shoot a friend request my way! Nice to meet you, too. :)

I couldn't find it. Do you mind linking me to it here?

Yea, I would never do anything like that. I like talking about the topic, because it's interesting, but I'm not out to disprove religion or make people stop believing or anything. I just try to encourage people to think about it scientifically :)

That's precisely my point! It's impossible, therefore we can't know the probability of a universe containing a life sustaining planet without a divine designer. For all we know it could be 1 in a trillion, or it could be 100%.

Btw, I'm not a militant anti-theist, in case you got that impression. These are just the things that I thought about from examining my own faith back when I was religious, y'know?

Yes, I see what you're trying getting at, but you still haven't responded to the main point I made =/ How can you assess the probability of an event for which we only have a single trial?

I agree with you that those are indeed life sustaining factors, but my point still applies to each of your individual observations: with only one universe, how can you assess the probability of the particular chain of events leading up to its current state taking place? We only have one universe to examine, and therefore how can we know what the chances are of a universe coming about that contains a planet coming about with a gravity of 9.8 m/s2? How can we know the probability of a universe coming about that has this distance from the sun? Or oceans or an axial tilt or etc? Like I said before, without several universes to examine, there's no way to assess the likelihood of such conditions coming about.

I think this will make this concept easier to grasp. Suppose you're given a bag containing a bunch of marbles of various colors. Then suppose you pull a marble out of the bag and it turns out to be blue. How can you know what the probability of pulling out a blue marble, if that's the only marble you picked? Was there a 1 in 10 chance? Was there a 1 in 5000 chance? Were all the marbles blue? You won't know unless you take out more marbles.

So I'd just like to ask, how are you assessing the probability of events for which we only have one example? I.e. what are your calculations that made you arrive at your million billion trillion etc. figure?

Hi :) So what I was saying before:


You're correct in saying that there's no evidence for multiple universes. It's for that reason that it's impossible to say that only 1 out of every billion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion+ universes would produce a life sustaining planet.By stating the probability of something happening, you're stating how repeatable the event is on repeated trial, but that's impossible to do when to our knowledge, this universe is the only one.

Dude im gonna donate for you :3

I did.

Hey, there! I went to church on Saturday, which still counts, so I could enjoy Sunday. What's been going on?

Cool! i'll check it out!

I started a Christian group for PC. Check it out: http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=324500 :D

Thank you, I actually just had it changed last month, haha. Yours is fine though :3 My friend code is pretty useless since I've stopped playing competitive for a while. Pikachu is cute.

Oh nothing much And i know!

Oh, that's cool. I'm pretty sure it's Presbyterian, though. :D

And I'm Catholic, so happy Easter indeed. :) I'm really glad to find a brother in Christ here ^.^

Hm I didn't send a PM or anything so I dunno what the "let's post on this page" thing is about. But you keep getting notifications cause I keep editing my posts on here LOL

Hey there. I'm surprised and impressed by your devotion to Christ. :3 What's your denomination (if you have one)?

It's ok with me that you see things differently. At least you took some time to try to understand it before you decided you didn't agree! :]

Although I would clarify that none of this is magic. Structures and stages are scientifically proven to exist, and to move through them is what people do anyway. A big difference here is that one is actually aware of what's going on, and is moving consciously rather than unconsciously.

But why is meditation bad? It's been shown to have very healthy effects on the body and the mind. Meditation reduces oxygen consumption, lowers the heart rate and blood pressure, and makes you feel peaceful and less stressed out, and helps you to deal with the problems in your life without being overwhelmed.

In addition, meditation is the only thing that has been shown to help people grow upwards through the structures I described. It's been proven to deepen a person's understanding of the world.