boo836

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I think you'll be able to get on the PC server again. The error should be fixed.

You really remember my first day? XD Cool.

Thanks.

Oh snaps...I see what u mean...lol

What do you want .

>_>

But Scizor gets mauled by Thunder Wave anyways, since it can't outspeed ANYTHING anymore and anything that resists steel will crush it. Bronzong is so offensively inept that HP Fire isn't worth using just for it, not to mention that Bronzong can't actually DO anything to Porygon2 so it doesn't really make a difference.

Outrage better have been a joke =/ Especially when Fire/Ground/Normal covers about everything you'll need bar Aerodactyl, UH OH. No gimmick sets. Learn to predict, build teams, and actually be pokesmart or you don't have a legit beef with Vance or anybody else for not taking you seriously. If you want to use some terrible gimmick like Linoone (which btw STILL sucks), go ahead, but don't complain if we think you're a joke of a battler ._.

http://christalkspokemon.wordpress.com/2009/01/04/want-to-be-creative-dont/

Read this now imo

Besides, you aren't even good enough to pull of gimmick stuff yet. Get good using proven pokemon and then come back with gimmicks when you're in a good enough position to use them without getting creamed every time you step into battle.

Why would you use HP Fire though? =/ If you're lucky, you get a Flash Fire boost, which gives it STAB, but it's still vastly underpowered and doesn't actually hit anything better than Thunder Wave can.

How would you know when you clearly haven't tried it. Not like I buy that anyways.

If you care more about making the next big thing than actually putting up a fight then you're clearly playing the wrong game, bucko.

Как ваши ноги пахнут, шиканье? xp

Enjoy trying to understand that kekeke.

It's still not doing ANYTHING to ANYTHING that switches in on Porygon2. It's actually a better idea on P-Z lol

You know maybe you should just use things that are proven to work instead of coming up with these worthless gimmicks all the time >_>

Well Luke's banning policy is a permaban until he feels you're ready to be unbanned. Talk to him about it.

Also, VMing about it = bad. Public annoyances get annoyingly annoying and I won't be sympathetic if you take it to VM in the future. PM = better.

And I really hope you're not being serious about Porygon-Z >_>

btw I'm not saying you're wrong, but publicly whining about your ban is probably a bad idea since you have by far the worst trolling/annoyance/stupidity history on our server ("You're a good comedian Anti" much?). I would tread carefully when you say things like "we banned you for nothing." I'm not handling your ban but if you're unbanned, don't do anything stupid, k?

Hint: If you're trying to make the next big thing, DON'T DON'T DON'T DON'T DON'T DON'T DON'T DON'T DON'T DON'T DON'T DON'T DON'T DON'T DON'T DON'T DON'T DON'T DON'T DON'T DON'T make it a choice scarfer, EVER.

What does that even revenge kill >_> Above text was in no way a joke =(

It wasnt me who banned you and i dont know why you are.

I did not expect that to be so long o_O

Conclusion: Scarf Nidoking sucks. Accept it and move on.

lol you really don't get it, do you? You aren't taken seriously because of this precisely - you don't even check Bullet Punch's damage (and btw since when does ground resist steel >_>) yet you try to sell it to us. You clearly haven't tested it either. But if you want the calc:

788 Atk vs 190 Def & 304 HP (60 Base Power): 348 - 411 (114.47% - 135.20%)

Easy OHKO.

"Revenge killing" CBers is absurd (especially one like Scizor) when the whole purpose of a choice item pokemon is hit and run. Besides, I know you've "only seen" CB sets, but CB is on less than 8% of Salamence (which, if its own pokemon, is easily BL). CB is on 29% of Scizor, and while that would be OU alone, it's still pretty low (while LO is on 43%) and Swords Dance Bullet Punch is on 62% of Scizors, which will at the very least severely damage Nidoking (even without a LO Bullet Punch OHKOs 59% of the time with SR down). ScarfTran actually revenge kills Scizor rather than folding to Bullet Punch, and it also beats non-DDmence (and btw DD is on 48% of Salamence) without locking itself into an unSTABed Outrage. Likewise, it can catch DDmence Outraging after a DD, take the hit, and kill it. It also revenge kills other Heatran bar ScarfTran locked in on Earth Power, which half the metagame sets up on anyways (Gengar, Zapdos, Gyarados, Salamence, etc.)

Blissey coming in on you probably sounds absurd but it actually isn't.

311 Atk vs 119 Def & 651 HP (90 Base Power): 169 - 199 (25.96% - 30.57%)

Outrage on Calm 252 Def/0 HP Blissey given the negative rivalry effect. now it can actually switch in on and beat a physical attacker. I'll let that sink in. You're stuck on Outrage so you're at least taking one Ice Beam, maybe a second one to finish you off. It can also Softboiled if you get something like a crit too. What about STAB EQ?

311 Atk vs 119 Def & 651 HP (75 Base Power): 211 - 249 (32.41% - 38.25%)

Still stalled out by a BLISSEY. imagine what happens when something with more than 10 base Def shows up.

As for:

"People treat nido as setup fodder anyways and I don't know any heatran that switches out of nidoking."

Just because people treat Nidoking as a set-up fodder in OUs doesn't give you an excuse to make it even more of one. there's a reason nobody uses Nidoking in OUs: because it sucks. Hell ScarfGar is a better choice than this seeing as it does more to Blissey with special attacks than Nidoking will do to it with Outrage.

Also, let's say Scarftran revenge kills Lucario with Earth Power or Fire Blast or whatever...if you bring in Nidoking, it almost totally gives away that it's scarfed because Nidoking is an awful way to deal with the common ScarfTran. Even Fire Blast does a lot:

359 Atk vs 186 Def & 304 HP (120 Base Power): 249 - 294 (81.91% - 96.71%)

So it's essentially a dead giveaway since taking 97% damage would be very foolish. Besides, what do you mean people don't switch Heatran out? the only time you would get a kill is if they thought you were a slow Nidoking (not likely though due to its low damage output which would rule out CB in a smart player's mind) and tried to revenge kill you...but for the reason just stated it probably wouldn't happen...damage output gives it away. I mean who leaves something 4x weak to the opponent's STAB attack in to take the hit? That's just rubbish ._.

And you can accuse Vance of being out to get you all you want, but I can assure you it's just because he doesn't take you seriously: he doesn't have anything against you, he just thinks you aren't somebody to be taken seriously. I know you won't believe that but it's actually true >_>;

So yes, that's what I meant by faulty logic. If you want people to take you seriously, go to Smogon and get good using bog standard pokemon (not this novelty garbage that doesn't work) and learn to play. You also need to actually think things through before posting them and test these sets out. You assume things that don't make sense and practically defy logic and you say people are out to get you. Get good, check your facts before posting, and then you can come chat to me about Vance. Because right now, you don't really have any ground to stand on >_<

Uh you know Salamence outspeeds you after a DD right? and locking yourself into a powerless Outrage is a really bad idea regardless right? And Scizor has Bullet Punch that OHKOs Nidoking after a SD right? And you know Heatran will just switch out if a Nidoking willingly comes in on it right?

I don't mean to burst your bubble, but you don't revenge kill Scizor at all, Salamence is barely OHKOed by Outrage which will in turn get your "revenge killer" decimated. Besides, you get uber raped by anything female (hell Blissey can come in off of Outrage and revenge kill you) .

In others words, you don't actually revenge kill much at all and what you do revenge kill will catch on immediately and just turn it into a set-up fodder.

"But really, it seems that every single set I make suddenly fails. I'm starting to get dissapointed in most people now because of the way they have been acting towards myself."

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You know that it's not because you made it but because it sucks, right? You might think we're out to get you because we've rejected every single set you've made, but it's not our fault that they aren't well-thought out (revenge killing Scizor when it gets SD Bullet Punch? Hello?) and you are so adamant about proving us wrong that you don't even open your eyes to the obvious flaws of your own set.

If you want to criticize the way people act towards you, maybe you should do things that would make people take you more seriously, like...not acting like Scarf Nidoking is actually good?

Oh, D_A in my profile said pretty much the same thing if you'd rather read his response...

noob .