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I think it's high Special Attack, and WIDE variety of attacks a fire type shouldn't have is great.

Yeah.
How do you feel about Magmortar in BL?

Speaking of Steelix.

i say: Steelix for BL.

Yep.
But what are your opinions on Electivire?

Exactly!
I feel the same way about Electivire and Pinsir.
Heracross does Pinsir's job 5x better.
And Electivire is just so overrated.

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I totally Agree with your signature.
Deoxys-A is too brittle for Uber.

Ubers is a completely different ball game. Contrary to what you say Rock and Fire moves are used quite often in Ubers but it is Shedinja's ability to stop specific threats like Kyogre and that Sandstorm is less common, allowing it to function properly.

Lugia needs Reflect or else it would be easily beaten by Garchomp. Ice Beam does not get a KO on it unless it invests an ungodly amount of SpA, in which Garchomp would hurt it majorly and if Speed is invested to outspeed Garchomp it undermines Lugia's ability to counter any Garchomp which isn't Swords Dance, or attacking on the first turn. With Reflect and Speed EVs Lugia can slam up a Reflect and basically wall Garchomp, which is important because 106/130 stats aren't enough to contend when Lugia is getting hit by a 180 BP move (Outrage, Crunch) or a 200 BP move (Stone Edge).

CM increases Lugias' durability but once again it cannot sweep due to its movepool being limited ; Two attacks and Roost, without Roost it would be fairly easy to outstall. Charge Beam is a 50 BP move, you cannot seriously use it on anything except 4x weaks because it would not do significant damage.

"Hit hard" is an overstatement. Base 90 SpA isn't enough to cause significant damage especially if said attacks are unSTABed and there is no SpA investment. Contrary to what you have said Rayquaza does min 67% to Lugia with LO DD Outrage (max Def), min 51% with +1 Outrage (no LO), and min 89% with SD Outrage, standing a chance to OHKO.

Clean Lugia Ice Beam does max 47% to Groudon, 40% to max HP Groudon. Thunder does max 40% to Kyogre. Infact, Mewtwo, Mew, Latias, Latios, Deoxys-D, Dialga, Palkia, Darkrai can all deal with Lugia. I have to remind you that Lugia can only outspeed unboosted Rayquaza, and that is with hefty Speed investment. Normal 204 Spe only outspeeds base 90, and it would have to run +Speed to outrun Rayquaza. Lugia doesn't run enough to outrun Rayquaza as it is hopeless considering Rayquaza most commonly boosts its speed.

Anyway, you are derailing this argument. Ubers is a ban tier, not a metagame, and your reasoning for not letting Lugia in OU is completely wrong, for a start just because a pokemon is "more suited" (subjective) does not mean it should be in that tier. Tentacruel is more suited for UU, must it be there? No, its OU because it is used a lot. Lugia needs 244 SpA EVs to OHKO standard Rayquaza despite the 4x weak, which is an excercise in futility.

You still have not brought up any points to not allowing it in OU other than its performance in Ubers which is in no way related to its performance in OU.

It is a wall. I will now bring up my great analogy:

Shedinja does well in Ubers, does it do well in OU?

Lugia's attacking stats are 90/90, and with Roost + Reflect + Ice Beam it will only have one slot, Whirlwind, etc can all go in there. With only one attack, Lugia cannot do anything to the likes of ice-resisters, which would promptly cripple it or setup, a notable example being Tyranitar. Lugia would also most probably run a second move, it may be Thunderbolt in which it would still be tanked by the majority of pokemon not boasting a STAB and 125 SpA like Zapdos does.

Lugia is fairly easy to counter.

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And are we arguing about whether Lugia does well in Ubers? The performance of a pokemon in another tier has no bearing on its performance in OU.

Nope, its not a joke. SR weak hurts Lugia but it is a 100% counter to Garchomp being able to outspeed it, the only thing that threatens it is ScarfChomp Outrage/Stone Edge which does a maximum of 46%

Oh, that was you ?. No wonder that account is banned XDD. K your unbanned now.

Umm, your not banned lol, no one is XD

I frigging love your avatar and message. RAPTOR JESUS, I must obey.

LOL@RAPTOR JESUS.

I love your avatar!

do u hav diamond/pearl???

i use a lot of characters so i don't know... probably Fox, Wolf, Sonic, and like 10 more or something.

ok i'll wait til then.......

Sorry i forgot, i was just busy with other things. i'm still lookin forward 2 it.

DUDE DO U KNOW WAT WE FORGOT ABOUT!!!???