Should women be allowed to go topless in public?

At the risk of going a little off topic, but that reminds me of a quote someoneorother said:
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The day you are born is the last day you are truly free.
Depressingly it's true.

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agreed, it's a shame we can't appreciate it then

Boobs are no different than any other private part. You're either for public nudism or you're against public top-lessness in women. Think it's sexist? Take it up with nature. If men had an equivalent private area on their chest they would be "forced" to cover it too.

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why should breasts be considered "private?" society made them sexual objects, no one has to view them as such.

STUPID FEMALE DISCUSSION NEEDS MOAR MALES.

Ok, where do I start? 'Kay Yellow, START SPEAKING IN FRIENDLIER ENGLISH. I have to get a translator whenever I read one of your posts..
Above, BOOBS FTW. Hmmm, lemme see. Society never said it's a sexual item. Isn't it just used because when males have sex (talk about topless women walking the streets thread =/) they just get nasty (I mean, I HAVE SO MUCH DAMN PRESSURE ON ME). Anyway it's just males' sexual pressure while doing it I think.

@Thread should be closed imo. It's just a stupid flame war. Thread sounds like a criminal pub or something, murder and boobs.. XD

Just reminding ya we're on a Pokemon forum guys. (And girls)

インフェルノの津波 said:

But still, I don't get it. What's the big deal, whether you're topless or not? I understand pedos and stuff, but it's not like they lurk in every corner.

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What do pedos have anything to do with women being topless? Most pedos don't like breasts anyhow, and even if they did that's still irrelevant.....

And about the article or thing Jolene posted, it basically sounded to me like women should have equal rights, but they shouldn't because people will look down on them? lolwut?

To be honest I don't know why I'm even bothering with this subject as I don't really care either way, but if I were a women I would probably want the option to go topless on a hot summer day.

Also, women don't have to be looked down upon in all cases, though maybe this isn't the best example. Ukranian feminists recently protested some political thing by going topless in public, and it definitely caught more attention than a regular protest would have.

Also, all these arguments about how if women were topless in public more often people would become used to it and that's somehow a bad thing, it makes me think of something in the past.....

:O OMG that woman is showing her ankles!

Yeah that's how it used to be, don't you agree the more freedom with a lot of things is for the better?

SIN1488 said:

:O OMG that woman is showing her ankles!

Yeah that's how it used to be, don't you agree the more freedom with a lot of things is for the better?

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Very good point you have there. Also, 'That woman is wearing pants! OMG why isn't she in a dress?'

Nearly every new idea has its opponents, but over time it still sinks in. This may just be one of those instances. =O

poopnoodle said:

why should breasts be considered "private?" society made them sexual objects, no one has to view them as such.

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They're already private. I think you need to be arguing as to why they shouldn't be. I for one would not tolerate someone interacting with me without a shirt. I'd shun them, without warning.

Why?

Taking off your shirt doesn't even necessarily cool you down. In fact? Your clothes protect you from the sun's harmful rays better than sunscreen.

Also, these comparisons are terribad. Who even brought up genitals? Or pants for that matter? Sounds like this argument is being fought with emotions rather than facts.

SIN1488 said:

Also, all these arguments about how if women were topless in public more often people would become used to it and that's somehow a bad thing, it makes me think of something in the past.....

:O OMG that woman is showing her ankles!

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The only problem is that rules like that still apply in modern society depending on your culture. Look at some of the Islamic cultures, for example. You'll also see the polar opposite in some African cultures.

Some of that is due to the fact that different societies consider different body parts to be over-sexualised. You might be able to walk around topless but you can't show anything above your knee.

as much as it would be epic to see that, i would say no cause it's like going through someones text's without asking =/

インフェルノの津波 said:

Honestly, why is it such a big deal? Why should you, or anyone else matter if someone wants to expose their body a bit more?

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poopnoodle said:

why should breasts be considered "private?" society made them sexual objects, no one has to view them as such.

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ReyRey-Pyon said:

but apparently once children outgrow breastmilk
suddenly the breasts become naughty parts, harmful to their innocent minds.

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Virtual Chatot said:

Screw all that women's liberation bullcrap, it comes down to an issue of morality and whether or not society agrees that it is acceptable. For instance, I'm taking a class on Women in tribal societies for my Anthropology major, and right now we're studying women who go (for lack up a better term) topless in everyday life (such as those found in South American tribes). It was found that in all cases of tribes who have women who go topless all the time, the breasts were not even considered to be an object of sexual gratification.

In short, if you see them all the time, you won't find them attractive anymore. If we have one generation of kids who grow up with people going shirtless all the time, the males will simply find something else to be attracted to.

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I agree with all the above. It really shouldn't matter to anyone whether someone else is nude or topless in public. The only reason it is "disturbing" or "innappropiate" or "embarrassing" is because of paranoia. :/ Unfortunately I am victim to this paranoia, because I wouldn't run around topless myself in any place other than my own home, or a bikini at the beach...

RTHookers said:

WHAT. THE.

MEN =/= WOMEN. STOP ARGUING. STOP IT! THERE IS NO BATHROOM.

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...What? Bathroom? You completely lost me here. :cer_confused:

インフェルノの津波 said:

Obscene?

Are all of you serious? That's like saying lesbians/gays are abominations.

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The thing is, people do consider lesbians/gays abominations. That isn't the issue here. I also don't see the connection between considering nudity to be obscene in public and lesbians/gays being considered obscene, but to each their own.

The point is, since breasts are now a taboo, everyone immediatly wants them, like the last piece of steak. Last time I checked, woman still go topless in third world countries, and there's no problem over there.

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Like I said, different countries have different values. When something is considered okay in one country, that doesn't mean it should automatically be okay for the rest of the world. Some Chinese cultures considered normal-sized feet to be considered ugly while tiny feet were sexually desirable among men with a higher social status. As a result, millions of women had to go through foot binding over hundreds of years. I won't describe the process because it still makes my stomach turn even though I learned about it seven years ago. So, because they do it in China, does that mean it should be okay here?

インフェルノの津波 said:

Obscene?

Are all of you serious? That's like saying lesbians/gays are abominations.

I find that insulting, and besides, most of us were breast-feed, and no one considers that obscene.

Also, I think I should say this:

Anything taboo, people like. And don't tell me that I'm wrong. Gays were once a taboo, and now everyone(almost)likes them.

The point is, since breasts are now a taboo, everyone immediatly wants them, like the last piece of steak. Last time I checked, woman still go topless in third world countries, and there's no problem over there.

In fact, if woman were more inclined to go topless, we probably wouldn't see breasts as a taboo. Sure, some will prefer to still wear clothes, but overall I think there wouldn't be a problem in that scenario.

That's it folks, I'm out of here.

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Thank you. You've managed to explain my points far better than I could. Now, cue the people claiming that even if no one minded it it would still be bad.

Chérii said:

@poopnoodle The hidden nature of boobs is one thing. But eh people still find a guys chest attractive and its legal for that to be exposed. Boobs will still continue to turn people on. (that's a good thing)

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Well what about the African tribes and other topless cultures? They don't consider breasts to be at all sexual. A Victorian man would consider the view of a woman's upper arm sexual on the other hand.

Rich Boy Rob said:

Well what about the African tribes and other topless cultures? They don't consider breasts to be at all sexual. A Victorian man would consider the view of a woman's upper arm sexual on the other hand.

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Well we all don't live in African tribes now do we.
The world doesn't have the same culture. It's all cultural.
I really can't believe this is a topic. :|