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I'll provide you with a few examples, and a quick description of why these reactions are immature and unprofessional.
First off, there was some moderator misconduct in the homosexuality thread a while back. I even reported the mods, but heard not a word regarding it.
Example 1 - Here, Livewire is just flat out being a jerk. Not only that, but he is publicly threatening a member with infractions. Whether the person was a troll or not, you should only give people warnings in private, unless it's a general warning meant for everyone. He does the same thing again shortly after. Acting like Livewire did is the exact opposite of how a mod should be.
Example 2 - While it's not as rude as Livewire, this post is still demeaning to other members. It was basically stating, in a roundabout way, that those fighting fire with fire were stupid. Not only that, but this post has literally nothing to do with the topic. Off topic posts should be removed, and that's just a fact that I'm sure we can all agree on. If you want to educate members on proper etiquette, do it in a PM, or elsewhere that isn't in a thread unrelated to member education.
Example 3 - Speaking of off topic posts, another one that I reported for that reason was ignored. Not only that, but it's just unnecessary snarkiness just because he's not able to to handle negative feedback. This is the only post I will show an example of in the April fool's day thread. The entire thread itself is an example of the staff not responding appropriately to negative feedback.
Example 4 - This isn't a mod's post, but it explains what happened pretty well. Klippy had deleted this guys post, which was exactly the same as the admin above him, saying it was unnecessary. To be honest, I think a more appropriate response would have been to delete Ausaudriel's post, since both of them really were unnecessary. That is what the like button is for, after all.
Example 5 - The point of this thread is just to have fun showing how you would arrange the forum. It's not really a good idea to be so abrasive just because you don't agree with someone else's ideas. You should think before you type, or, as Arylett posted in response to Universe, you might come across as being rude.
I'm going to be respectful of your right to disagree here but I'm also going to be quite frank seeing as you directed this at me.
A) With regards to reports, we review them and handle them internally, and we don't consult with the person reporting (unless they're a mod reporting in another section) because reports are handled by staff and staff alone, nobody else, no exceptions. That also means we don't tell somebody if/when their report is handled, it's really not their business at that point, it's between the user who's post was reported and the staff.
1) I was dealing with an obvious troll, and frankly I'm not going to treat them like I would say, a regular user, because they aren't that, hence the being a troll bit. That being said, it wasn't exactly obvious at first, but it became obvious later in the thread, and the course of action taken should have been rather self-explanatory at that point? And no, I can and will give warnings in a thread, in public to either stay on topic, to tell a user to stop doing bad thing A, B, or C because as a Super Moderator and former moderator of this section that I designed, I have the authority to do so, along with the rest of Staff & H-Staff, and i'm sorry if you don't like that, but that's the truth of the matter. And given that this was already a contentious topic in the RT, the possibility of the thread being derailed is high so keeping on on the straight and narrow and on-topic is a top priority there, which a regular poster in the section would understand. I think you're looking at things on PC through a very rigid, black & white sense and by doing so you miss the larger point to things here.
2) Nah is the Moderator of The Round Table like I was, and also wields the amazing ability to moderate his section as he sees fit, including but not limited to, telling members to stay on topic because like me, it's part of the job being a moderator. Nah's post doesn't apply to off-topic posting, because he's not physically debating or talking about the topic at hand, he's enforcing the rules, which he's supposed to do, in the thread and otherwise. And it was well done, in my opinion.
3) He's questioning why the people raising such a huge issue with the prank have never posted any feedback before when we wanted or asked for it, and that's a valid point. I didn't see anybody who objected to the April Fool's prank so strongly post anything in Feedback before it was convenient for them to do so.
4) You'll notice that the post in question isn't deleted.
5) Considering Universe is the moderator of The Treehouse and Arlett Charnoa made some poor and rather generalized comments on the forum's content and direction, and by extension how its run, I can see why it was taken personally because the initial comments themselves, directed towards The Treehouse, were, you know, rude.
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Moving on, as for April Fool's, I feel like the initial response to the prank from a vocal minority of users was little more than a temper tantrum, where people freaked out over the inaccessibility of the forum skin, which was the entire point as it was supposed to be a throwback to the good 'ol days online in the early 2000's. Considering Audy coded and designed the entire thing with a busy schedule and other PC things to address, the overzealous response from some users to the prank was rude and unfounded. I can't stress this enough - we welcome insightful feedback and constructive criticism, we really do. The being said, not all feedback or cc is valid, and it's one thing to constructively offer a critique, where it's been laid out in a thoughtful matter, and it's entirely another matter to loudly complain because you're inconvenienced on a Pokemon Forum on April Fool's Day, and I felt the responses to the prank leaned closer to the latter rather than the former. C'mon people, it's just for a day and plenty of other people didn't seem to mind. We also do this every year, and we've done some crazy stuff in the past and even the craziest prank from yesteryear didn't generate such a big uproar from a few people. If anything, it should make you all appreciative of people like Audy, Razor Leaf, Abnegation, Peitiarchia, Hiroshi Sotomura, etc., who do a ton of complex, complicated vb coding and graphic design for this site, for free, so that collectively we all can enjoy a modern, streamlined and aesthetically pleasing website.
I mentioned feedback thing already, and I believe it was already touched on, but constructive feedback is more than just complaining about a feature you personally don't like - instead of "I hate this feature it sucks make it go away", try for "I think the AF prank could have uninhibited site functionality by doing a, b, c, differently" with a totally different tone and approach. Shouting at us in the feedback forum isn't going to make anyone want to listen to you nor will it get any of us anywhere, so if we approach it (feedback) more calmly and in a more tactful manner, we'll all be happy.
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