Yay for posts that somehow end up far longer than I originally intended them to be.
Taken from the financial perspective people seem to be talking about lately, GS remake takes a back seat to a fifth gen game. :S The original FR/LG sales weren't really all that great compared to any of the other main series Pokemon titles. Meanwhile, D/P is tremendously winning at sales.
If the mindset is "Money good!" then they have to take a look at the fact that remakes don't bring in the dough like new games do.
This I feel can be debatable - firstly, a GS remake will for many be practically a new game. And for many more, it'd be a trip down memory lane, which many are quite willing to revisit. Unlike R/B/Y, for instance as well, most of the GSC games are now unplayable due to dead internal batteries. Many also feel (leastways, based on what I have seen all over the place - not just this forum but others I also frequent/visit) that GSC was the superior game to RBY. It also was were Pokemon arguably was at its peak - so IMO there would is a bigger 'demand', so to speak, of a GS remake as opposed to the RB remake in FR/LG.
I also feel IMO that it IS a little bit early for a fifth gen to start now. Although I'm against trying to predict when such and such a game or generation will start, this one so far IS currently 'young' compared to the others. Last gen saw R/S/E/FR/LG - two sets of games released at three times. Not only that, but you've also got Colosseum and XD on the GC, and numerous spin-offs as well. So far for the fourth gen, one has D/P/Pt, and PBR as the 'main' games - not as much as before, and still a fair bit of time until the DS, and a LOT of time until the Wii will be replaced by the next gen console.
Does this mean that they will fit in a GS remake into this gen - well, no. (And that is assuming a GS remake WILL happen). But IMO a GS remake is probably more likely to happen in this gen rather than the next if it happens at all for a few reasons. Firstly, it looks like there IS a fair bit of time for the 4th gen to go on.
Secondly, and undeniably I feel, a GS remake WILL sell. How well is questionable - I think it'd do above and beyond what FR/LG did, but even if it only made as much profit as they did which I have very little doubt over, it'll easily be a good enough incentive or reason for them to make it. (After all, the main reason they make games is for themselves to make $$$). Given that they have no reason to rush into the next gen (past history shows they haven't yet to great success = i.e. DP sales), they could easily do that while working on other projects like, say, another game for the Wii, or even the 5th gen games.
Also bear in mind that it usually takes a good while from a new gen being revealed to a new gen game being made and produced. Take the introduction of Munchlax (and Bonsly I suppose...) - he was introduced well before DP. They even got an appearance in a 3rd gen game (XD) as well during their wait. I feel this means that the 4th gen still has a decent amount of time left within it.
Finally, I find it more likely a GS remake will be made this gen due to the in-game coding in DP about Pokemon being able to come from 'Johto'. Unless the 5th gen games allow for trade-backs (which would be nice, but less likely IMO than another migration-system - one-way only), then feasibly that coding would only come into play for a game allowing trading both ways, like another 4th-gen game.
The original remakes were also devised by Nintendo as a way to reintroduce the youngsters to the origins of Pokemon. The same can't quite be said about GSC. It was a very nice generation, to be sure, but the nostalgia factor isn't quite there... at least not on Nintendo's end.
I'd disagree - the original remakes, although they could be argued to be in some part a way to say 'hey customers! Take a look at our roots - no, don't look at Green... look at these flashy new remakes of Red and Blue!', were more IMO to 'celebrate' the 10th aniversary, to make many Pokemon available to players, and for the most part - another excuse for them to get more $$$. After all, if someone wanted to look at the origins of Pokemon, they could find an old RBY game pak, a GB or GB Colour and play away. Or simply get a ROM, which'd be far cheaper for a person interested in trying an old game.
Nintendo/Game Freak wouldn't make it easily available out of the goodness of their hearts - afetr all, they're a money-making business. So they simply turned out a money-making product in the form of a remake, instead of just settling on making a brand-new game. And it did sell - not spectaularly, but what does one expect from a game for the most part redone, and nothing that much new added in apart from a few islands and a lack of a Battle Tower.
I'll also disagree with the point on GSC offering less of a 'nostalgia' factor... heck, MANY people's first games would have been GSC, like me. And those who played RBY would have been likely to have also played GSC as well - after all, Pokemon was at their peak then. So one can argue even more people would have been familar with that game. It's approaching the same length of time since that game from now, and the time between FR/LG and RBY as well, and given that hardly any GSC game paks work now, I'd say it's possible more people want GSC due to a nostalgia factor. (Not as many people want another RBY remake due to nostalgia as they recently had FR/LG).
I think somebody posted a link to a petition with, what? 2575 signatures? To put this into perspective, D/P has sold well into the millions. While we can afford to assume that there are more people than 2575 who want GSDS, even multiplying that number by, say, a hundred times, still isn't even close to a majority of what can be assumed to be Nintendo's fanbase. Oops?
I'm not necessarily opposed to GSDS, but real-world-wise, odds look... mehish.
Petitions are petitions - not everyone that wants a GS remake goes on a handful of forums and comes across this petition; nor does everyone sign it either as many think 'it's not THAT important an issue and it won't work as well anyway'. This I feel is HARDLY a true reflection at all at how many want a GS remake (and again, don't forget the new Pokemon players who, for them, a GS remake would be an entirely new game as well - they are unlikely to sign a petition as it wouldn't affect them anyhow, as they hadn't played GSC). And I'm certain that Nintendo wouldn't be going around looking for a petition to judge on whether a game would sell or not either. (I'm pretty sure also that this petition would go better than what a RBY remake petition would have done, but that's just personal opinion).
So I will have to disagree with you, tbh. :/ I will agree that a GS remake would, IMO, not sell as well as a new gen - but this is pretty obious after all. In a new gen game - you get new places, new aspects, a game on a better, and now more commonly-used platform, new Pokemon, new graphics... new everything! No wonder DP sold more than FR/LG. This is hardly a surprise to me.
But FR/LG still made a neat profit for Nintendo/Game Freak, and IMO a GS remake would net even more $$$. And as long as a game will possibly sell resonably, it's got a good chance to be made.
All this debating however does sadly come to naught - all one can do is wait to see IF a GS remake will be made, and if so - WHEN. And we'll only find out for sure when it is announced, if it is announced.
In 1010 ill be busy fighting the romans.
Oh, haven't you heard? It's going to be Nintendo's new marketing scheme - the GS remake will be released along with the next piece of Nintendo hardware - the Nintendo Time-Traveller! ;)
