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Analyzing Negative Christian Opinions about Pokemon

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  • While I know this is rather old news, I'm curious as to what the wonderful members of the Pokecommunity feel about the issue.​

    For those that for some reason don't feel like reading the whole post (It's not very long >_>) I've highlighted the important parts in BOLD. So if you're lazy just skim to those parts and then you can still join the debate.

    Who are the strange little creatures from Japan that have suddenly become global super-stars? Most kids know the answer well: They are called Pokemon (short for POCKEt MONster and pronounced Poh-keh-mon), and they have stirred up some mixed reactions.


    "We just sent a letter home today saying Pokemon cards are no longer allowed on campus," said Paula Williams, a second-grade teacher in Danville, California. "The kids know they're supposed to be put away when they come in from recess, but they're often in the middle of a trade, so they don't come in on time. In the more extreme cases, the older kids are getting little kids to trade away valuable cards . . . . It drives a teacher crazy."1

    It concerns parents even more. "Recently, my children were given a set of Pokemon cards," said DiAnna Brannan, a Seattle mom. "They are very popular with the children at our church and elsewhere. I was instantly suspicious but couldn't discern the problem. We have since been told that they are stepping stones to the 'Magic cards' that have been popular for the last few years, which we do not allow."

    She is right. For instance, children exploring some of the most popular Pokemon websites 2 will find links to a selection of occult games. At the site for the Wizards of the Coast (makers of the Pokemon and Magic cards), a click on an ad for "Magic the Gathering" brings Pokemon fans to promotions such as this:

    "A global games phenomenon, Magic: The Gathering is to the 1990s what Dungeons and Dragons was to the 1980s, but with the added dimension of collectibility. Here is the official reference to the biggest new teen/young adult fantasy game of the decade, complete with full-color reproductions of every existing Magic card."

    THE POKEMON MESSAGE. The above websites gives us glimpse of the mysterious little creatures called Pokemon. Ponder the suggestions in this greeting:

    "Welcome to the world of Pokemon, a special place where people just like you train to become the number-one Pokemon Master in the World!"

    "But what is a Pokemon, you ask. 'Pokemon are incredible creatures that share the world with humans,' says Professor Oak, the leading authority on these monster. 'There are currently 150 documented species of Pokemon. . . . Each Pokemon has its own special fighting abilities. . . . Some grow, or evolve, into even more powerful creatures.. . . Carry your pokemon with you, and you're ready for anything! You've got the power in your hands, so use it!'" 3

    What if children try to follow this advice? What if they carry their favorite monsters like magical charms or fetishes in their pockets, trusting them to bring power in times of need?


    Many do. It makes sense to those who watch the television show. In a recent episode, Ash, the boy hero, had just captured his fifth little Pokemon. But that wasn't good enough, said his mentor. He must catch lots more if he wants to be a Pokemon master. And the more he catches and trains, the more power he will have for future battles.

    So Ash sets out again in search for more of the reclusive, power-filled, little Pokemon. His first step is to find the "psychic Pokemon" called Kadabra and snatch it from its telepathic, pink-eyed trainer, Sabrina.

    Or so it would seem to a first-time viewer not familiar with the contradictory themes. Actually, Ash doesn't try to "catch" Kadabra, an evolved version of the Pokemon Abra. In spite of the prodding to increase his inventory of Pokemon warriors -- and in spite of the constant reminders to "catch them all" -- Ash was merely trying to win a standard battle. With the ghost Haunter on his side, it should have been a cinch!

    But Ash underestimates the power of his opponent. When he and Sabrina meet for the fight, both hurl their chosen Pokemon into the air, but only Abra (who becomes Kadabra) evolves into a super-monster with a magic flash. Haunter hides. "Looks like your ghost Pokemon got spooked," taunts Sabrina.4

    Obviously, Ash didn't understand the supernatural powers he had confronted. Neither do most young Pokeman fans today. Unless they know God and His warnings, they cannot understand the forces that have captivated children around the world. And if parents underestimate the psychological strategies behind its seductive mass marketing ploys, they are likely to dismiss the Pokemon craze as harmless fun and innocent fantasy. In reality, the problem is far more complex.

    MARKETING A NEW LIFESTYLE. The Pokemon mania supports a financial conglomerate that knows how to feed the frenzy. The television series is free, but it drives the multi-billion dollar business. It also inspires the obsessive new games that disrupt schools and families by giving the children --

    * a seductive vision: to become Pokemon masters
    * a tempting promise: supernatural power
    * a new objective: keep collecting Pokemon
    * an urgent command: "gotta catch them all"

    These enticements are drilled into young minds through clever ads, snappy slogans, the "Pokeman rap" at the end of each TV episode, and the theme song at the start of the show:

    "I will travel across the land
    Searching far and wide
    Each Pokeman to understand
    The power that's inside.
    Gotta catch them all!"

    The last line, the Pokemon mantra, fuels the craving for more occult cards, games, toys, gadgets, and comic books. There's no end to the supply, for where the Pokemon world ends, there beckons an ever-growing empire of new, more thrilling, occult, and violent products. Each can transport the child into a fantasy world that eventually seems far more normal and exciting than the real world. Here, evil looks good and good is dismissed as boring. Family, relationships, and responsibilities diminish in the wake of the social and media pressures to master the powers unleashed by the massive global entertainment industry.


    No wonder children caught up in the Pokemon craze beg for more games and gadgets. The makers count on it. Since the means often justify the economic ends in the entertainment industry, the Pokemon website is full of tips, explanations, and ads that encourage the urge to splurge - and to express the darker side of human nature. Ponder their influence:

    "You can catch a Mew by cheating with a Gameshark."

    Ahhh. The Gameshark. . . Cheating is not honorable. But many of you have requested and sent me this information, so I have put it up for all you cheaters."

    "The Moon Stone evolves certain Pokemon, such as Clefairy."

    "Select your desired attack. Hold down the button until your opponent's life stops draining."

    "Once you have captured Zapados, you can use it to quickly lower the health level of Articuno. . . ."

    While children delight in these mysterious realms, concerned parents worry and wonder. What kinds of beliefs and values does the Pokemon world and its links teach? Why the emphasis on evolution, supernatural power, and poisoning your opponent?

    CHANGING BELIEFS and VALUES. Barbara Whitehorse started seeking answers after her son asked a typical question: "Mom, can I get Pokemon cards? A lot of my friends from church have them." Much as she wanted Matthew to have fun with his friends, she gave a loving refusal. Matthew's tutor had already warned her that the Pokemon craze could stir interest in other kinds of occult role-playing games such as Dungeons and Dragons. At the time, she wondered if the tutor had just over-reacted to some harmless entertainment. After all, the cute little Pokemon creatures looked nothing like the dark demonic creatures of D&D. But when she learned that a local Christian school had banned them because of their link to the occult, she changed her mind.

    Later, during a recent party for Matthew, Barbara heard two of the boys discussing their little pocket monsters. One said, "I'll just use my psychic powers." Already, the world of fantasy had colored his real world. So when some of the kids wanted to watch the afternoon Pokemon cartoon on television, Barb again had to say "no." It's not easy to be parents these days.

    Cecile DiNozzi would agree. Back in 1995, her son's elementary school had found a new, exciting way to teach math. The Pound Ridge Elementary school was using Magic: the Gathering, the role-playing game called which, like Dungeons and Dragons, has built a cult following among people of all ages across the country.

    Mrs. DiNozzi refused to let her son participate in the "Magic club." But a classmate gave him one of the magic cards, which he showed his mother. It was called "Soul exchange" and pictured spirits rising from graves. Like most other cards in this ghastly game, it offered a morbid instruction: "Sacrifice a white creature."

    "What does 'summon' mean?" he asked his mother after school one day.

    "Summon? Why do you ask?"

    He told her that during recess on the playground the children would "summon" the forces on the cards they collect by raising sticks into the air and saying, "'Spirits enter me.' They call it 'being possessed.'" 5

    Strange as it may sound to American ears, demonic possession is no longer confined to distant lands. Today, government schools from coast to coast are teaching students the skills once reserved for the tribal witchdoctor or shaman in distant lands. Children everywhere are learning the pagan formulas for invoking "angelic"6 or demonic spirits through multicultural education, popular books, movies, and television. It's not surprising that deadly explosions of untamed violence suddenly erupt from "normal" teens across our land.


    Occult role-playing games teach the same dangerous lessons. They also add a sense of personal power and authority through personal identification with godlike superheroes. Though the demonic realm hasn't changed, today's technology, media, and multicultural climate makes it easier to access, and harder than ever to resist its appeal.

    ROLE-PLAY AND PSYCHOLOGICAL ADDICTION. The televised Pokemon show brings suggestions and images that set the stage for the next steps of entanglement. It beckons the young spectator to enter the manipulative realm of role-play, where fantasy simulates reality, and the buyer becomes a slave to their programmer.

    Remember, in the realm of popular role-playing games - whether it's Pokemon, Magic the Gathering, or other selections -- the child becomes the master. As in contemporary witchcraft, he or she wields the power. Their arm, mind, or power-symbol (the pokemon or other action figure) become the channel for the spiritual forces. Children from Christian homes may have learned to say, "Thy will be done," but in the role-playing world, this prayer is twisted into "My will be done!" God, parents, and pastors no longer fit into the picture fantasized by the child.

    Psychologists have warned that role-playing can cause the participant to actually experience, emotionally, the role being played. Again, "the child becomes the master." Or so it seems to the player.


    Actually, the programmer who writes the rules is the master. And when the game includes occultism and violence, the child-hero is trained to use "his" or "her" spiritual power to kill, poison, evolve, and destroy -- over and over. Not only does this repetitive practice blur the line between reality and fantasy, it also sears the conscience and causes the player to devalue life. The child learns to accept unthinkable behavior as "normal" .

    To be a winner within this system, the committed player must know and follow the rules of the game. Obedience becomes a reflex, strengthened by instant rewards or positive reinforcement. The rules and rewards force the child to develop new habits and patterned responses to certain stimuli. Day after day, this powerful psychological process manipulates the child's thoughts, feelings, and actions, until his or her personality changes and, as many parents confirm, interest in ordinary family life begins to wither away.

    You may have recognized those preceding terms as those often used by behavioral psychologists. They point to a sophisticated system of operant conditioning or behavior modification. The child must exercise his own intelligent mind to learn the complex rules. But after learning the rules, the programmed stimuli produce conditioned responses in the player. These responses become increasingly automatic, a reflex action. Naturally, this can leads to psychological addiction, a craving for ever greater (and more expensive) thrills and darker forces.

    WHAT CAN PARENTS DO?

    It's hard to teach restraint to children who are begging for gratification. Wanting to please rather than overreact, we flinch at the thought of being called censors once again. Parental authority simply doesn't fit the fast-spreading new views of social equality taught through the media and schools. Yet, we must obey God. He has told us to train our children to choose His way (Proverbs 22:6), and we can't turn back now.

    If you share my concerns, you may want to follow these suggestions. They will help you equip your child with the awareness needed to resist occult entertainment:

    1. First, look at God's view of contemporary toys, games and cartoons. As a family, read Scriptures such as Ephesians 5:8-16, 6:10-18 (the armor of God); Philippians 4:8-9; and Colossians 2:9. Compare them with the values encouraged by Pokemon and other role-playing games.

    2. Share your observations. Spark awareness in a young child with comments such as, "That monster looks mean!" or "That creature reminds me of a dragon," along with "Did you know that in the Bible, serpents and dragons usually represent Satan and evil?"

    3. To teach young children a Biblical attitude toward evil before they learn to delight in gross, ugly characters, make comments such as, "Who would want to play with that evil monster? I don't even like to look at him. Let's find something that makes us feel happy inside."

    4. Model wise decision-making. Tell your child why you wouldn't want to buy certain things for yourself.

    When your child wants a questionable game or toy, ask questions that are prayerfully adapted to your child's age, such as:

    1. What does this game teach you (about power, about magic, about God, about yourself)? Discuss both obvious and subtle messages.

    2. Does it have anything to do with supernatural power? If so, what is the source of that power? Does it oppose or agree with God's Word?

    3. What does it teach about violence or immorality and their consequences?

    4. Does the game or toy have symbols or characteristics that link it to New Age or occult powers?

    5. Does it build godly character?


    In a nation consumed with self-indulgence, self-fulfillment, and self-empowerment, godly self-denial seems strangely out of place. But God commanded it, and Jesus demonstrated it. Dare we refuse to acknowledge it? According to the age of your child, discuss Jesus' words in Matthew 16:24-26, then allow the Holy Spirit to direct your application.

    Far more than earthly parents, God wants His children to be content and full of joy. But He knows better than to give us all the things we want. Instead, He gave us His word as a standard for what brings genuine peace and happiness. The apostle Paul summarized it well:

    "Whatever things are true, whatever things are noble, whatever things are just, whatever things are pure, whatever things are lovely, whatever things are of good report, if there is any virtue and if there is anything praiseworthy - let your mind dwell on these things." (Philippians 4:7-8)

    After hearing God's warning and praying for His wisdom, nine-year-old Alan Brannan decided to throw away all his Pokemon cards. "My friend did the same," said his mother. "Her twelve year old son had been having nightmares. But after a discussion with his parents about the game and its symbols, he was convicted to burn his cards and return his Gameboy game. That night slept well for the first time in a month."

    "It seemed to us that these cards had some sort of power," continued DiAnna Brannan. "Another nine-year-boy had stolen money from his mother's purse ($7.00) to buy more cards. When questioned, he confessed and said he had heard the devil urging him to do it. The family quickly gathered in prayer, then saw God's answer. Both the boy and his little sister burned their cards, warned their friends, and discovered the joy and freedom that only comes from following their Shepherd.


    So guys, how do you feel about this?
    What points to you believe hold truth?
    Should children continue to be raised on Pokemon?
    Is this guy out of his mind?!
     

    Anti

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  • Sorry, but those are people who have toom uch time on their hands. Little kids are too young to think about SERIOUSLY wanting to do stuff like that. It is so lol...and I happen to be Christian.
     

    Adelaide-Amber

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    haha...

    wow... this is somewhat disturbing. i'm a christian, and i love pokemon with all my heart. these people are totally missing the point on what pokemon is all about. anybody can twist pokemon into being something evil. so why don't we look at the good side? the show is all about teamwork, friendship, and overcoming challenges. these are all important lessons to teach children, are they not?

    what points do i believe hold some truth? a lot of the points have the truth twisted into it. and that's what's offensive. i see the points as deceptive.

    sure, i don't see any problem with children being "raised" on pokemon. i was (and still love and play pokemon 10 years later) and i have morals and very good judgment. for crying out loud kids just want to have some fun.

    psst... just between us... yes, i think this guy is out of his mind... ;)
     

    Jorah

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    Godly character...

    I don't think Christians (the one's who try and find problems with everything, not normal one's) care about Pokemon anymore. The one's who try and find problems with everything go for the popular brands that are an easy target rather than what could be truely harmful. And Pokemon's not exactly mainstream anymore, so they don't care. I mean, seriously, these are the people that think magic is evil and everything.

    Yeah, while this type of thing is old, it never fails to amuse me by making fun of them

    He told her that during recess on the playground the children would "summon" the forces on the cards they collect by raising sticks into the air and saying, "'Spirits enter me.' They call it 'being possessed.'" 5

    Yeah, I see 10 year olds doing that all the time. Letting those spirites possess them, silly kids

    the Pokemon mantra

    Wow, they typoed "mantra" for "advertising gimmick". I just can't take people seriously if they make typoes like that...

    Strange as it may sound to American ears, demonic possession is no longer confined to distant lands

    Demonic possession is now coming to a town near YOU.

    As we all know, demonic possession actually exists...

    or fetishes in their pockets

    LOL

    "Select your desired attack. Hold down the button until your opponent's life stops draining."

    ...

    You haven't played this game, have you?

    this prayer is twisted into "My will be done!"

    "My will be done" doesn't even make sense.

    godlike superheroes

    You know, I've heard Ash been called a lot of names. Godlike superhero isn't one of them...

    First, look at God's view of contemporary toys, games and cartoons

    Eh? I'm not a Christian, but the only way to know God's view is to look at the Bible. So...where's the cartoon section?

    "That monster looks mean!"

    Analyzing Negative Christian Opinions about Pokemon

    Magikarp looks like he's about to kill with his deadly Splash attack! Watch out!

    To teach young children a Biblical attitude toward evil before they learn to delight in gross, ugly characters, make comments such as, "Who would want to play with that evil monster? I don't even like to look at him."

    Analyzing Negative Christian Opinions about Pokemon


    Only the truely evil can think Eevee looks gross, ugy and...is evil. That reason alone makes me think this person is an idiot.

    Of course, most people who write these types of articles have no idea what they're going on about. I just like having fun by showing all of their mistakes
     

    txteclipse

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  • I'm a Christian, and I have played pokemon since the Red and Blue days. I love the series dearly, but I have had qualms with certain things.

    Interestingly, most of these have absolutely nothing to do with the pokemon. I'm more concerned with the psychics and channelers that you encounter from time to time.

    The two groups are depicted as lonely, powerful people that can do many things with their minds, like bend spoons and read other people's thoughts, or summon spirits, in the case of the Channelers. Most kids would not have a problem with this, and would not be truly influenced to try to use such powers.

    Now: if a kid was, say, picked on in school, they may find this type of power inviting. If they could use it like a weapon to retaliate against their tormentors, they may read more into it. It would start small, obviously, but this is where such things become dangerous, as it compounds upon itself. The powers themselves don't exist, but the ideas and methods to supposedly achieve them do. Books of magic and the occult become involved here, some of which encourage live sacrifice and other such deviations. Again, this would be a very extreme case, but it leads to places that people were not meant to go.

    Now, I also feel inclined to say that I like more things in the pokemon games than I dislike, which is why I have played them for so long. They teach the values of friendship and trusting one another, as in the case of the trainer/partner relationships, and all of the games have important good vs. evil messages. They teach that stealing is wrong, perseverance reaps rewards, and that struggles should be met with courage.

    They also teach strategy, which is a nice mental boost. It helps with problem solving skills, which are essential no matter who you are.

    As a final note, some people have complained about using animals to battle. I do not share their issue with this. The pokemon do not fight to kill: they simply fight to test their abilities and grow stronger. This is no different than boxing or the hundreds of martial arts in existence today, most of which also teach honor and mercy, two very important aspects of the Christian lifestyle.

    In the end, pokemon is really a great series, one that actually supports many Christian beliefs. You just have to be able to discern between what is real and unreal, which should be the main goal of Christian parents worried about magic and such anyways.

    That's about all I have to say.
     
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    ~Dai-kun~

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  • This is just stupid and so I do not care much about stuff like this because when this happens:

    Super Strict Religious Person+Hated Show kids or teens watch+ Pestering in peoples business= Some stupid website rant about how dangerous something is.

    And I am a religious person. So I rather liked that you brought this up but you should really close this before flamming starts cause it will. Just don't bring up anything that relates to religion here anymore because it will start something.

    Thanks for informing though
     
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    Note: This article was written to encourage Christian parents who share our goal of following Jesus and trusting His Word. It is not an attempt to change the world or censor Pokemon. So if you don't share our faith, you may not want to read this article. If you do read it, please also read our first response to all the Pokemon mail.
    Did anyone here actually read that?

    I'm not supporting this guy (even though he does quote Calvin and Hobbes 8D), but he does make some good points from his side of the line, as do we as fans have positive points on the game (see HeroWolf's and txteclipse's respective posts).

    The thing about being analytical is that you're deliberately taking into account the parts that hold true for your point. When studying Shakespeare, we are presented with numerous analytical papers consisting of different readings, including Elizabethan, Feminist and Marxist. Neither one was necessarily wrong or right, just different.

    People just have different opinions, that's all.
     

    GamerFreak

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  • First, I should say that I myself am of the Christian, religion if you will, culture or society, but my opinions on the famous Pocket Monster series are positive ones rather than negative. I do not feel that it makes people possessed or that it's a sin to be indulged in playing even the games.

    Overall, Pokemon is a great series that many once respected, but now, many people highly dislike it.:(​
     
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    I think it's sad that these rumors get spread around and people blindly take their word for it so some kids don't get to play Pokemon... when, if the parents had really seen Pokemon, they wouldn't have a problem with it.

    I mean, this site is blatantly lying about some of this stuff, or exaggerating details to the point of dishonesty.

    I also think that many of these internet sites are just trying to be provokative. I mean, come on, if they were really that concerned about doing God's will, they would focus on feeding the hungry and visiting the sick - not condemning people who like Pokemon and Harry Potter.

    But overall, I don't really care if people personally don't feel comfortable with Pokemon. I am Christian (Mormon, to be more specific) and there are certain stories that I don't feel comfortable reading/watching/playing, even if other people see them as totally innocent. Just as long as they're not bugging me about liking Pokemon or anything, that's their choice.
     

    Light_Lugia

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    There is nothing 'bad' about Pokemon. I've been playing it for more than 5 years and it's not bad. That guy mustn't have played a Pokemon game before. It's not about destorying or evil, it's about dreams. Your dream in Pokemon is be a master, right? And in the end, you become a Pokemon Master. It's just is showing kids that their dreams can come ture. It's also a game you can play to become even better at your dream. And it stops kids from saying 'I'm bored'. But it is the person's opinions, and that's it.
     

    Jorah

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    Jorah, very nice. i love your analysis :D

    Thank you hehe :)

    I think most people know that its not Christians in general who think like this. Its just that the idiots seem to have a louder voice. I mean, I honestly don't know how someone could have such twisted views on Pokemon. You'd have to put a LOT of effort into twisting around facts to come up with articles like that
     
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  • im not religious, i am more of a sciencey idividual, but kids will be kids. and a game will be a game. dont read stuff like this, their just adults complaining because they never had anything like that when their were of our age. its pathetic really, people who dont know what their on about.
     

    -Jinx-

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  • And I am a religious person. So I rather liked that you brought this up but you should really close this before flamming starts cause it will. Just don't bring up anything that relates to religion here anymore because it will start something.

    If this gets closed I will not be very pleased. My thread and the intelligent people in it who wish to discuss this topic should not be penalized because of people who can't contain themselves. I am not insulting anyone and neither is anyone else here. People who bring flames here are just ignorant and should be punished, not us.
     

    txteclipse

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  • *I think most people know that its not Christians in general who think like this. Its just that the idiots seem to have a louder voice.*

    I hope you see that what you said there came across as very stereotypical. You seem to have just called the entire Christian community a bunch of idiots.

    This may not have been your intent, but if it was, I can say right now that this thread isn't going to promote "mind provoking discussion" for much longer. I'd suggest a lock, but if that wasn't what you meant, you may want to change your wording a bit.
     

    J-Rad

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  • k i don't get offened easily but THIS IS WHERE I DRAW THE LINE i am sick and tired of people being stereotypical stereotypical about my religion... Yes i am christain more specificly I am mormon and a very strict mormon i enjoying going to church and learning more about it and NO leader in my ward give all these long speaches about pokemon being evil, i'm just sick and tired about people saying stuff like this....
     
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    I hope you see that what you said there came across as very stereotypical. You seem to have just called the entire Christian community a bunch of idiots.

    I think he/she (too lazy to check ^^') was trying to say that not all Christians think like this, but the ones who do (i.e., the "idiots") are the ones that get noticed.

    k i don't get offened easily but THIS IS WHERE I DRAW THE LINE i am sick and tired of people being stereotypical stereotypical about my religion... Yes i am christain more specificly I am mormon and a very strict mormon i enjoying going to church and learning more about it and NO leader in my ward give all these long speaches about pokemon being evil, i'm just sick and tired about people saying stuff like this....

    Go Mormons!! *high five*

    But... I don't see anyone being stereotypical...
     
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