Arceus The Real God?

[Trainer VyNk]

Primary Topic: Theories on Arceus.

Secondary Topic: The Original Dragon[Highlight]?[/Highlight]

Arceus was Considered as God of all Pokemons in Arceus in Jewel of life
what nintendo be thinking?
Leaving Arceus as it is or Perhaps new generations will bring superior & powerful pokemons as legendaries in spite of Arceus being God.

Share your thoughts, I'll leave Wiki & bulbapedia for you guys ;)

 

[Trainer VyNk]

Some People also say that Arceus along with Mew created PokeUniverse. how come that be?
their counter-parts would probably Giratina & Mewtwo.

 

[Meksal]

They keep trying to start something with this whole 'god pokemon' thing, but they never follow through with it.

 

[TheFattestSnorlax]

Let's face it, Arceus is the God of the Pokémon world. The helix fossil is just an idol that people worship. What I would believe is that Mew was probably Arceus's "saviour"!

 

[Trainer VyNk]

They keep trying to start something with this whole 'god pokemon' thing, but they never follow through with it.

Yeah, if they need "God" then stick to one whom all worships.

Let's face it, Arceus is the God of the Pokémon world. The helix fossil is just an idol that people worship. What I would believe is that Mew was probably Arceus's "saviour"!

Arceus's Saviour Mew? how come that be? Could you explain?

However, I can say they will probably add more & more "Fake" Gods using their old Generation exclusive God formula. {XD}

Sorry Nintendo, but you're running out of ideas!

 

[Legobricks]

Real god? Every legendary monster is a power within its respective pantheon (if such status is applicable to the individual monster) within the region it is associated with. So, there are many deities and their spheres of influence may well conflict quite heavily, but (to my knowledge) that's fine where the Pokemon games were created. This sort of syncreticism is familiar to Japan, and it gets a bit lost in cultural translation when one thinks about it in Christocentric terms. So, Arceus, god of the universe? Maybe. That's what they'd tell you in Shinō, but maybe not elsewhere.

The helix fossil is just an idol that people worship.

How does the helix fossil pertain to anything here?

 

[Sonata]

I think what nintendo should do in a while is portray Arceus as a false god and have a level where we go deep into the earth to find the true pokegod because Arceus goes on a rampage killing everyone or something idk.

 

[Taiji Dragon]

I see it this way. Don't call anything god. Arceus is the creator of the pokeverse. It has very high creative powers. There is also the unseen original dragon that might surpass Arceus in Attack and Special Attack. It is yin and yang so it stands for seemingly opposite or complementary qualities of everthing in the universe. It can probably create by using it dragon energy and it temperature powers to change atmospherical conditions to create ideal weather. May raise the level of the land and make it fertile but I do not believe it has the same creative powers that Arceus has. I see Arceus as the originator of spirit and physicality in other words the universe. Other pokemon might have been born as a consequence of the energies used to create the universe. Like Mew. I say that Mew was born in the universe with unlimited potential to fill it with all sorts of different life forms. I have no idea where the original dragon my have originated from if before or after the universe. And possibly a few legendaries where born from the remnants of energy from Arceus within the newly born universe and helped give it shape. Unown when together have legendary power and it is hinted that they and Arceus work together to create something new. They might be what they call it's ten thousand arms and possibly with other legendaries they gave shape to the universe. Unown are like that theory in quantum physics that every possible reality exists ( particals and stuff) simulteniously and when there is a consious observer based on the definition the observer uses the universe takes shape. The unown are generating every possible reality (that which they call chaos before the beginning of times) and Arceus merly gives order to create it's desired reality.

I would like to add that while Giratina is indeed Arceus counterpart you are forgetting that Dialga, Palkia, Uxie, Mespirit and Azelf are also Arceus' counterparts. People tend to see this as God Devil thing where it doesn't follow in the pokeverse. Maybe they have traits in common Arceus being the creator and Giratina being the renagade but Giratina also stands for anti-matter. Along with Space and Time they conjoin to make the wholistic universe pokemon live in. God and Satan is more of a messed up story of rivalry. I will also like to point out for those who don't know that Satan was created by God as Lucifer in a ceromony of celebration where God felt inspired to make the best being he could possibly create. Perfect in every way. And so he did and he was but I think he was consented to much and started feeling better than the rest and felt that he had certain right that other didn't because he was perfect. God scolded him for those things and then Lucifer must have felt like ♥♥♥♥♥ I'm perfect I'm sure that you even made me better than you. So I now want to play God. They had arguments and fights and later wars because he probably used arguments against God that sounded so appealing that other Angels followed. One time he sited in God's throne and God got pist. He tempted people who God favored. The thing got to a point where Lucifer decided to attack God to take his place and God with a mighty breath send Lucifer and angels to what appears to be our dimension and below and so now we are stuck with them. I don't know what will be in Giratina's case but Girarina doesn't seem to be as violent as it is described. He is also in Reverse world to bring order to the matter in our universe so it is doing its job and it's being a good pokemon and the situation is not the same as in Satan in hell where he drags people who have nothing to do with his conflict with god to hell because he is pist.

 

[Trainer VyNk]

Palkia is the Space pokemon
Dialga is the Time pokemon
Arceus is the Alpha pokemon
Wouldn't this technically be the trio; given that, well, aren't Palkia and Dialga technically made of Arceus, or something?Although, if you took into account that Giratina is related to an"ancient cemetary in another dimension", you could technically consider it
:Arceus ; life
; Alpha Giratina
; death ; Omega
Beginning and end, so to speak...maybe it could work?

Visit Bulbapedia where Specialist Speak. ;)

[Highlight]Source Code:[/Highlight]

https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Talk:Creation_trio

 

[Taiji Dragon]

Visit Bulbapedia where Specialist Speak. ;)

[Highlight]Source Code:[/Highlight]

https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Talk:Creation_trio

... It... Doesn't say anything that I already didn't know.

 

[Trainer VyNk]

Sorry for double posting.

So, aside from Arceus being God thing.

People actually argue about who came first

Mew or Arceus?

Well honestly I'm not Hurting anyone so put spoiler. (may hurt but open at your own risk!)

Spoiler:

Okay so I think,
Before Big bang (in Pokeverse)
All Powers including Time, Space, Gravity, Spiritual, and matter were just individuals fleeing around each other but one day all Crashed or perhaps fought each other which created chaos.. afterwards an Egg appeared carring Arceus inside of it,
When Arceus hatched it saw that chaos and felt lonely, so Arceus got to known its powers and Created a World.
Afterwards, He/She created Mew (Just like God created first man on Earth) Along with Mew, Arceus Created landmass whilst Mew created Pokemons such as Eevee.
To make pokemon live, Arceus used his/her powers to create Helpers such as Dialga for time, Palkia for Space to make pokeverse balanced.. Thus Mew is Ancestor while Arceus is God who created Land!

So if you liked it then feel free to drop a post by. :)

Literally I will again say,
[Highlight]I'm not intending to hurt someone, if you're hurt by something flame me! [/Highlight]
Well not really :P

 

[Taiji Dragon]

Sorry for double posting.

So, aside from Arceus being God thing.

People actually argue about who came first

Mew or Arceus?

Well honestly I'm not Hurting anyone so put spoiler. (may hurt but open at your own risk!)

Spoiler:

Okay so I think,
Before Big bang (in Pokeverse)
All Powers including Time, Space, Gravity, Spiritual, and matter were just individuals fleeing around each other but one day all Crashed or perhaps fought each other which created chaos.. afterwards an Egg appeared carring Arceus inside of it,
When Arceus hatched it saw that chaos and felt lonely, so Arceus got to known its powers and Created a World.
Afterwards, He/She created Mew (Just like God created first man on Earth) Along with Mew, Arceus Created landmass whilst Mew created Pokemons such as Eevee.
To make pokemon live, Arceus used his/her powers to create Helpers such as Dialga for time, Palkia for Space to make pokeverse balanced.. Thus Mew is Ancestor while Arceus is God who created Land!

So if you liked it then feel free to drop a post by. :)

Literally I will again say,
[Highlight]I'm not intending to hurt someone, if you're hurt by something flame me! [/Highlight]
Well not really :P

We think similarly in that Arceus created Mew so it could fill his universe with many types of creatures. I don't know if Mew's existence was a consequence or if it was deliberate. I don't know what was going on before Arceus made the universe either nor how the egg came to be. It is a mystery. I bet this is a territory gamefreak could exploit to make more stories. Any story that fits with the theme will have to do for now.

I do have the Unown theory that is mentioned above and is easier for me to believe it that way. I don't know if Unown all ways existed or if they were created by Arceus or if they were born with Arceus or even possibly that they have had created Arceus themselves. One thing i know is that they can also create. Arceus summons them in Shinjo when creating an egg. So there is a connection between the two what it is is unclear. I can speculate like they are his 10,000 arms or that they are his word like the word of the hebrew God or both are one and the same. It occured to me that the Unown were creating chaos creating without control and that Arceus gave order to establish a reality. If you note in the movies when you see the Unown dimension there it seems to be a void that has a scrambbled background. That could be all realities at once or so I like to think.
In the movies Unown are also able to create any desired reality although their creations don't seem to be stable. As they will dissapear if the Unown are defeated. And also you know the chaos that was form in the movie when they started creating so I could use that to give support to this theory.

 

[Trainer VyNk]

We think similarly in that Arceus created Mew so it could fill his universe with many types of creatures. I don't know if Mew's existence was a consequence or if it was deliberate. I don't know what was going on before Arceus made the universe nor how the egg came to be. It is a mystery. I bet this is a territory gamefreak could exploit to make more stories. Any story that fits with the theme will have to do for now.

Correct. its a mystery o.O

Now after Posting those lines, I think of new mysterious aspects
:3c don't worry I won't post anymore {XD}

Leaving this thread open... ..

Because Pokeverse is mysterious shading new secrets which lie
untold yet to be uncovered.

Any thoughts? Leave a post here, its ok if you use fiction :P (as I did)

 

[Taiji Dragon]

Correct. its a mystery o.O

Now after Posting those lines, I think of new mysterious aspects
:3c don't worry I won't post anymore {XD}

I don't worry so don't mind me. Actually I love these types of discussions and I like to show my ideas or expose an idea that might give explenation to phenomena like this. That is what threads are for to take out your ideas and debate. So again don't worry I don't mind having conversations or even discussions. If you do not desire to post anymore that's fine. I'll respect your decision.

 

[Trainer VyNk]

I don't worry so don't mind me. Actually I love these types of discussions and I like to show my ideas or expose an idea that might give explenation to phenomena like this. That is what threads are for to take out your ideas and debate. So again don't worry I don't mind have conversations or even discussions. If you do not desire to post anymore that's fine. I'll respect your decision.

I also want to take parts in discussions like this. but you know if I post something like "aww I didn't know" with a quote it will feel like kind of over-exaggerating or foolish :P

so I wait for someone's post {XD}

 

[mangamusicfan]

I don't Think There is a real pokemon god, I yust don't think thats possible,

 

[Talon Flare]

Under Greek Mythology term then yes Arceus is the God Of Pokemon

 

[Kameken]

A theory I like is that Mew created Arceus, who then used Mew's DNA to create the planet and all its pokemon.

 

[Trainer VyNk]

Under Greek Mythology term then yes Arceus is the God Of Pokemon

Would you please Describe your theory in more detail?

I mean which Greek myth?

where you heard them?

A theory I like is that Mew created Arceus, who then used Mew's DNA to create the planet and all its pokemon.

any proofs?

well I was joking, feel free to fictionate your theory as long as it makes sense.

P.S. now I think I should have put a poll "MEW or Arceus?" :P {XD}

 

[xXi8pizzaXx]

This conversation reminds me of my religion Hinduism, where there are a lot of gods but there are 3 main one, like Bramha (Arcues) and Dialga and Palkia (Vishnu or Shiva, depends on which one destroys and creates) Then again, there is Giratina, and its 6 tentacle-things, 6 crowns-things on its neck, and 6 spikes on the side of its bosy, not to mention it kind of behaves like the devil.

I don't Think There is a real pokemon god, I yust don't think thats possible,

In what sense is this not possible?