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Shiraishi

Orz
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    I feel like trying a new team. I like having teams with at least 1 not so OU poke and I didn't accomplish that with my 1st team XD;

    Salamence@Focus Sash
    Lonely
    252 Spd/252 Atk/4 HP
    Dragon Claw
    EQ
    DD
    Fire blast

    I must always have a 'Mence on my team D:< AlWAYS D: *hugs 'Mence*

    Porygon-Z@Life Orb?
    Timid
    Adaptability
    252 Spd/252 Sp atk/4 HP
    Tri attack
    T-bolt
    Ice beam
    Nasty plot/Dark pulse

    Not sure about the last move >_o

    Milotic@Lefties
    Bold
    252 def/128 sp atk/128 HP
    Surf
    Ice beam
    Hypnosis
    Recover

    Hitmontop@Lum berry/lefties?
    I don't know.
    ..Help D:
    Mach punch
    Close combat
    Rapid spin
    Stone edge/Rock slide

    Mkay, I wanted a spinner who can cripple Blissey and Weavile at the same time. He seemed like a good option..

    Gliscor@Lefties
    Impish
    252 def/252 HP/4 Atk
    EQ
    Roost
    Stealth Rock
    Stone edge/Rock slide/Aerial ace

    Electivire@Expert belt
    Hasty
    172 Spd/252 atk/80 Sp atk
    T-bolt
    Ice punch
    Cross chop
    EQ

    I love 'Vire.
     

    Faceless*

    YES!
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    Porygon-Z even with Timid nature isn't going to be killing anything with it's below average speed in sweepers play. Use Endure/Salac Berry if you dislike choice item or Sash Agility
     

    Faceless*

    YES!
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    Ok. Gotta get meh another sash.. Can anyone help with Hitmontop? Btw how can I get mach punch on him..Hes always male..

    Thats the reason I never used him... I couldn't get Mach Punch :D

    Rapid Spin Hitmontop? Oh boy...
     

    J-Rad

    In ur comp h4xing ur interwebz
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    Maybe the Colluseum one has Mach punch o-o *runs to get strategy guide* Boo. it doesnt :[ What the..why the hell do the smogon movesets have mach punch..

    I checked serebii and it sayed that a hitmonchan w/ mach punch should pass it on to a tyrouge.
     

    Dark Azelf

    ☽𖤐☾𓃶𐕣
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    I feel like trying a new team. I like having teams with at least 1 not so OU poke and I didn't accomplish that with my 1st team XD;

    Salamence@Focus Sash
    Lonely
    252 Spd/252 Atk/4 HP
    Dragon Claw
    EQ
    DD
    Fire blast

    Nice

    I must always have a 'Mence on my team D:< AlWAYS D: *hugs 'Mence*

    Porygon-Z@Focus Sash
    Timid
    Adaptability
    252 Spd/252 Sp atk/4 HP
    Tri attack
    HP Fighting/Dark Pulse/Thunderbolt
    Ice beam
    Nasty plot

    Not sure about the last move >_o

    I like to put HP Fighting on this as it has the potential to 3hko Blissey with it after a Nasty Plot.


    Milotic@Lefties
    Bold
    EVS: 148 HP / 240 Def / 120 SpAtk
    Surf
    Ice beam
    Hypnosis
    Recover

    Changed that to standard EVS


    Hitmontop@lefties
    Nature: Impish / Jolly
    Trait:Intimidate
    EV: 252HP / 74DEF / 184SPD
    Toxic
    Close combat
    Rapid spin
    Stone edge/Rock slide



    Gliscor@Lefties
    Impish
    252 def/252 HP/4 Atk
    EQ
    Roost
    Stealth Rock
    Stone edge/Rock slide/Aerial ace/Insert Elemental Fang Here

    good

    Electivire@Expert belt
    Hasty
    176 Spd/252 atk/80 Sp atk
    T-bolt
    Ice punch
    Cross chop
    EQ

    You missed four evs off on speed.

    I love 'Vire.

    Ok

    changes are in bold (filler) (filler)
     
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    luke

    Master of the Elements
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    If you breed a Hitmonchan with Mach Punch in its move set, it'll pass it on to its Tyrogue. Then, when you evolve it to Hitmontop, it'll have Mach Punch. ^.^
     

    Dark Azelf

    ☽𖤐☾𓃶𐕣
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    If you breed a Hitmonchan with Mach Punch in its move set, it'll pass it on to its Tyrogue. Then, when you evolve it to Hitmontop, it'll have Mach Punch. ^.^

    Just to add to this, breed it with a ditto, as Tyrogue and Evos are always male.
     
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    You're team isn't UU at all. LOL Hitmontop.

    Still, I think your team is kinda balanced, but lacks some REAL defense, and Vire want's HP[Grass]
     

    Faceless*

    YES!
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    You're team isn't UU at all. LOL Hitmontop.

    Still, I think your team is kinda balanced, but lacks some REAL defense, and Vire want's HP[Grass]

    Uh what? I understand he has a few Sp. Attack EV's on Vire but it is unSTABBED and it only reaches up to 70 base power so Ice Punch is much better recommended

    His objective wasn't to make a completely UU team at all, his goal apparently was to make a team with 5 OU and 1 UU
     

    Iceman3k

    Kickin' it Tribal GO Style
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    Dark_Azelf said:
    I like to put HP Fighting on this as it has the potential to 3hko Blissey with it after a Nasty Plot.
    Adaptability (Double-STABed) Tri Attack > SE HP Fighting

    I feel like trying a new team. I like having teams with at least 1 not so OU poke and I didn't accomplish that with my 1st team XD;

    Salamence@Focus Sash
    Lonely
    252 Spd/252 Atk/4 HP
    Dragon Claw
    EQ
    DD
    Fire blast

    I must always have a 'Mence on my team D:< AlWAYS D: *hugs 'Mence*
    I personally like my Salamence with Stone Edge for further Gyarados Onslaught. Otherwise, that's fine.

    Porygon-Z@Life Orb / Lum Berry / Salac Berry
    Timid
    Adaptability
    252 Spd/252 Sp atk/4 HP
    Tri attack
    T-bolt
    Ice beam
    Nasty plot/Dark pulse

    Not sure about the last move >_o
    Dark Pulse for a full Life Orb Sweep, or Nasty Plot if you're running Lum or Salac Berry.

    However, if you use Salac, you'll need a different EV Set.


    Milotic@Lefties
    Bold
    212 HP / 184 Def / 112 SAtk
    Surf
    Ice beam
    Hypnosis
    Recover
    Okay.

    Hitmontop@Lum berry/lefties?
    I don't know.
    ..Help D:
    Mach punch
    Close combat
    Rapid spin
    Stone edge/Rock slide

    Mkay, I wanted a spinner who can cripple Blissey and Weavile at the same time. He seemed like a good option..
    Erm... I'll get back to this one.

    Gliscor@Lefties
    Impish
    216 def/252 HP/40 Atk
    EQ
    Roost
    Stealth Rock
    Stone Edge
    Enough to raise the point by 2 is usually workable for me so I can pack slightly more power.
    Use Stone Edge to swat off Weavile (I doubt Gliscor could survive against it, but hey)


    Electivire@Expert belt
    Lonely
    172 Spd/232 atk/100 Sp atk
    T-bolt
    Ice punch
    Cross chop
    EQ

    I love 'Vire.
    Needs more Lonely Nature. 270 Speed is enough.
    Now will someone please tell me why everyone runs Fighting AND Ground Moves on the same Pokemon =/
     

    Shiraishi

    Orz
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    ..Oh damn I already EV trained Porygon >_o Mine has great def/HP IVs so when he gets hit by a STABd attack he will most likely survive and then the salac berry would kick in >_o

    EDIT:I checked a dmg calculator and found out that Blissey will survive my Close combat D: That sucks......
     
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    Dark Azelf

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    ..Oh damn I already EV trained Porygon >_o Mine has great def/HP IVs so when he gets hit by a STABd attack he will most likely survive and then the salac berry would kick in >_o

    EDIT:I checked a dmg calculator and found out that Blissey will survive my Close combat D: That sucks......

    Heres what i got lol
    after a CC on Blissey with Bold nature and maxed Def and HP.

    Damage: 452 - 532
    Damage: 63.31% - 74.51%

    Ok, well that does suck.

    Try this one

    Hitmontop@Leftovers/Lum Berry
    Adamant Nature
    EVS:252HP / 74ATK / 184 SPec.D
    Trait:Intimidate
    - Bulk Up
    - Hi Jump Kick
    - Stone Edge
    - Mach Punch/Rapid Spin

    you'll 2HKO Blissey after 1 Bulk Ups and a High Jump Kick. 2 Bulk Ups and a Hi Jump Kick and its a 100% OHKO

    You may OHKO it with one Bulk Up and HI jump Kick, but it does 93 % - 109 %.However i cant see many People switching/Keeping Blissey in on a Hitmontop.

    Also Hi Jump Kick>CC due to the unfavorable Defense drops and that would be pointless as this set revolves around Bulk Up.
     
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    Richard Lynch

    Professor Lynch
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    Having Rapid Spin on a Fighting Pokemon may be a bad choice to begin with. What's likely to switch into this thing? A Ghost. And what blocks Rapid Spin? A Ghost. So while you may try to out-predict and get a free Rapid Spin into the game, it may be a catch-22.

    Sadly, the only thing this guy can learn that will be helpful against Ghosts is Pursuit, and it's likely that once they're into play YOU will switch. :-/ (Although, it is interesting to consider that with Technician trait, Pursuit becomes 60 base power instead of 40... just something to consider!)

    Also, someone would have to be crazy to send Blissey into a Hitmontop, and be even crazier to keep her in against it.
     
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