6th Gen Confirmed Information Discussion

[blue]

I don't want to spoil much, but I accidentally came across these two awesome facts in the text data of the Demos.

Elite Four Rematches are confirmed and being in the 70s with members using Mega Evolutions!
I only looked at one of the Gym Leaders; but for those worrying about the nerf of Brawlys Makuhita, it is rectified! Tate and Liza signature Pokemon are at Level 45, that's a 3 level increase from the originals!

I avoided any further spoilers as I want to enjoy the games as much as possible, I have no idea of any of the teams and official levels. I just thought of share these two awesome facts. n_n

 

[Hikamaru]

So apparently the leakers came across this...

Spoiler:

Roserade (Lv. 79) @Bright Powder
Talonflame (Lv. 79) @Life Orb
Azumarill (Lv. 79) @Assault Vest
Magnezone (Lv. 79) @Air Balloon
Garchomp (Lv. 79) @Rocky Helmet
Gallade (Lv. 81) @[~ 756] (Galladite? I know it's Gallade Mega Stone)

A Bright Powder? You gotta be kidding. Guess that means I better carry Aerial Ace if I don't like having my accuracy fail on me. But still can't believe they're giving his final rematch team competitive items, just like how some certain threats did in B2/W2's Challenge Mode.

If that Magnezone has Sturdy I definitely won't enjoy this, and I'll likely have to focus on special attacks to avoid that Rocky Helment.

 

[Pendraflare]

Whoa, really? I gotta find out more about this, if they're rocking competitive items that might make things something else.

And Wallace's design looks rather unusual, I liked his original look considerably more.

 

[Altius]

Looks like somebody will be using a terribly under levelled fully evolved pokemon... Goodness.

Spoiler:

Flygon (Lv. 23)

 

[Sabrewulf238]

So if Charizard and Xatu return to standing poses then I guess most of the gliding pokemon like Tropius and Skarmory will return to standing poses?

I sure hope so. Gliding really doesn't suit Tropius or Skarmory. (among others)

 

[Hikamaru]

Looks like somebody will be using a terribly under levelled fully evolved pokemon... Goodness.

Spoiler:

Flygon (Lv. 23)

What's the bet that it'll be that Aarune dude... just dreadful. And we were hoping NPCs would stop with having underleveled evolutions.

So if Charizard and Xatu return to standing poses then I guess most of the gliding pokemon like Tropius and Skarmory will return to standing poses?

I sure hope so. Gliding really doesn't suit Tropius or Skarmory. (among others)

I think Skarmory had its model changed as well, to I think its feet being on the ground like most of its non-XY sprites/models have had. Tropius sadly retains its "gliding" model.

 

[Altius]

What's the bet that it'll be that Aarune dude... just dreadful. And we were hoping NPCs would stop with having underleveled evolutions.



I think Skarmory had its model changed as well, to I think its feet being on the ground like most of its non-XY sprites/models have had. Tropius sadly retains its "gliding" model.

Ermmmm... I was trying not to spoil it. Haha.

Anyways,

Spoiler:

You can rematch Aarune later on with a Lv50 Flygon it seems. It holds a normal gem. That probably means that mega Flygon will not exist at all.

Of course, I could be wrong and I hope myself to be.

 

[fenyx4]

Gah, the floodgates are (mostly) open! Preliminary comments about recent developments:

Spoiler:

Well, the Pokemon subreddit exposed me to the results of most of the demo data mining.. I'm surprised that they have obtained so much data so far, from certain Base Stats to Trainer artwork to Move Tutor lists to rematch teams to move learnsets to item lists to Shiny OmegaRuby/AlphaSapphire-exclusive Mega Evolution Pokemon...most of which are seemingly incomplete.. This is going to be a long month until the game's actual release when we can verify all of the data..sigh. Why was so much data left in..? >_> Now there's not much to speculate on.. Even the Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS demo information experience fared better.

I'm personally going to hold off on Trainer artwork until the official release of OR/AS.. As for the demo data, I'm liking the perceived presence of Tutorable moves (LOL, just scroll down to Mew and check for the elemental Hyper Beams elsewhere, where applicable), although it's irritating that Stealth Rock may presumably return. Most of the options seem good, although some seem sucky (Bind? Seriously?). Uh, and why can't Zangoose apparently not learn Cut again?

I'm disappointed that some of the Hoenn Elite Four's ace Pokemon have been altered in favor of Mega Evolutions - particuarly, Phoebe and Glacia. Steven Stone's rematch team is also screwed up; all of the Pokemon species should've remained the same! More optimistically, the demo's rematch levels for the Hoenn Elite Four are just amazing. Level 70+? Now we're getting somewhere!

The Shiny Primal Pokemon look cool, although this "black makes everything look cool" mentality is a bit much. Granted, it makes sense for Primal Kyogre to resemble its real-life counterpart (orca/killer whale), and Rayquaza already had the Shiny coloration, but it still seems overboard to do it for the whole Weather Trio/entirety of Super-Ancient Pokemon...

*Props to this Redditor's deduction about the Hoopa "transformation", which seems more likely as a Forme since the Magician Ability (allows the user to takes the foe's held item when the user hits the foe) doesn't make sense on a Mega Evolution (as Mega Stones make the holder impervious to held-item theft)

Still hoping that the Legendary Bird Pokemon of Kanto can use Air Slash reliably... The chance of Mega Flygon seems to be diminishing... I'm still holding out hope, although I fear that "Mega Flygon" may become the "Ridley, Mewtwo, King K. Rool" of Pokemon OmegaRuby/AlphaSapphire... (basically, big missed opportunity like what happened with Super Smash Bros. 4)

EDIT: Also, NEW Nintendo 3DS/Super Nintendo3DS faceplates..! *frothes*

Source: https://twitter.com/NintendoTweet/status/522634635948220416

 

[Hikamaru]

I also came across this...

Spoiler:

Gym Leaders' Teams:

Roxanne
Geodude Lv12
Nosepass Lv14

Brawly
Machop Lv14
Makuhita Lv16

Wattson
Magnemite Lv19
Voltorb Lv19
Magneton Lv21

Flannery
Slugma Lv26
Numel Lv26
Torkoal Lv28

Norman
Vigoroth Lv28
Slaking Lv28
Slaking Lv30

Winona
Swellow Lv33
Pelipper Lv33
Skarmory Lv33
Altaria Lv35

Tate & Liza
Lunatone Lv45
Solrock Lv45

Wallace
Luvdisc Lv44
Sealeo Lv44
Whiscash Lv44
Seaking Lv44
Milotic Lv46

And this:

Spoiler:

Elite Four Rematch Teams:

Sidney
Scrafty Lv70
Sharpedo Lv70
Shiftry Lv70
Mandibuzz Lv70
Zoroark Lv70
Absol (Mega) Lv72

Phoebe
Banette Lv71
Drifblim Lv71
Mismagius Lv71
Chandelure Lv71
Dusknoir Lv71
Sableye (Mega) Lv73

Glacia
Abomasnow Lv72
Froslass Lv72
Beartic Lv72
Vanilluxe Lv72
Walrein Lv72
Glalie (Mega) Lv74

Drake
Altaria Lv73
Haxorus Lv73
Dragalge Lv73
Flygon Lv73
Kingdra Lv73
Salamence (Mega) Lv75

Champion Steven
Skarmory Lv77
Carbink Lv77
Aerodactyl Lv77
Claydol Lv77
Aggron Lv77
Metagross (Mega) Lv79

(first battle I assume will be identical teams to the originals, so yay Phoebe and Glacia having those dupes)

 

[blue]

So apparently the leakers came across this...

Spoiler:

Roserade (Lv. 79) @Bright Powder
Talonflame (Lv. 79) @Life Orb
Azumarill (Lv. 79) @Assault Vest
Magnezone (Lv. 79) @Air Balloon
Garchomp (Lv. 79) @Rocky Helmet
Gallade (Lv. 81) @[~ 756] (Galladite? I know it's Gallade Mega Stone)

A Bright Powder? You gotta be kidding. Guess that means I better carry Aerial Ace if I don't like having my accuracy fail on me. But still can't believe they're giving his final rematch team competitive items, just like how some certain threats did in B2/W2's Challenge Mode.

If that Magnezone has Sturdy I definitely won't enjoy this, and I'll likely have to focus on special attacks to avoid that Rocky Helment.

Wow, Wally became strong! Seriously though that's a pretty challenging team, that's good. ;3

 

[Boss Salamence]

Didn't they mention something about all non-event legendaries being available between X/Y and OR/AS?

Because if they did, I wonder if they will take a page from X/Y but this time, instead of one of the legendary birds, either Suicune, Raikou, or Entei will roam around Hoenn depending on your choice of starter.

 

[Abby]

Why is everyone forgetting about the lake trio!?

 

[PumpJack]

I dunno how confirmed this can be considered, so its going in spoilers:

Spoiler:

Wallace is back, and he's effing FABULOUS.

Eat your hearts out.

I know it's just coincidence, but he kinda looks like a Bishonen Anthro Gallade.

The female fanbase is certainly going to spend their sweet time in his gym.

 

[Hikamaru]

After going through the shiny pics of the new Megas, I just realized how shiny Mega Audino has barely any color difference from the original aside from just a change to its eye color.

Shiny Mega Audino has yellow eyes, while the normal colored one has red eyes. I feel like it's Garchomp all over again, because it looks so lazy. Shinies that look barely different from the normal ones really gets on my nerves.

 

[blue]

I just wanted to post this here and see if I wasn't the only one who felt a rush of nostalgia upon hearing this soundtrack for the first time.

 

[Controversy]

So if Charizard and Xatu return to standing poses then I guess most of the gliding pokemon like Tropius and Skarmory will return to standing poses?

I sure hope so. Gliding really doesn't suit Tropius or Skarmory. (among others)

Tropius is a wild pokemon in the demo. It's sprite is still flying

 

[Zeturic]

I'm not at all surprised by the lack of patching the new Megas/Primals into X&Y. If you think about it, it's similar to B&W and B2&W2. You couldn't use the newly introduced formes from #2 but could still battle between the two games, right? This is just on a bit of a bigger scale, with all the new Megas.

It's disappointing, but not entirely surprising to me.

It's not the same. The form differences in Gen IV and Gen V were just that - form differences. Nothing happened in battle. Simply seeing a Pokemon with a specific (if "weird") type and stats is one thing. Seeing a normal Pokemon that magically changes type, stats, and ability in the middle of battle for no reason (from XY's perspective) is another.

More likely, it'll simply be set up so that the new Mega Evolutions don't work when fighting against an XY opponent.

 

[ShadowEdge]

So I guess Day and Night will be present in ORAS! Something that wasn't originally in the Hoenn games to start with, I for one can't wait to see how beautiful Hoenn looks at night, evening or even morning. The Day/Night doesn't seem to be present in the Demo version though..

You just made my day ^_^ I'm loving this game by the minute! honestly I think Ruby and Sapphire = best generation of pokemon of all time I don't care what others say IT'S SO EPIC!

 

[Altius]

I just wanted to post this here and see if I wasn't the only one who felt a rush of nostalgia upon hearing this soundtrack for the first time.

To be honest, every ORAS theme so far sounds very similar to the originals, even the trainer encounters, battles... Mostly updated with modern instruments.

It's not a bad thing, in fact I love it.

 

[destinedjagold]

There's a new...erm, news posted in Serebii.

Details have been posted on the official site about a scheme called Pokémon Scrap. With this, from November 1st you can start collecting clippings which can give you codes to redeem on the campaign site from December 1st to get serial codes for various items in Pokémon Omega Ruby & Alpha Sapphire. While most of these are simply items, such as Nugget, Super Potion, Luxury Balls, Rare Candy & finally a Master Ball, three Mythical Pokémon are also obtained through this method. Shaymin, Keldeo & Victini are obtained this way.
This campaign runs in Japan until April 30th 2015. The clippings can be obtained in various merchandise including booster packs for the upcoming TCG set, Gaia Volcano & Tidal Storm, in Pokemon Sandwich packs (Omega Ruby Strawberry Jam/Alpha Sapphire Tuna Bread flavours) and in Pokémon 3D Pencil Cases with more to be announced.
There are 50 Pokémon Scrap cards to obtain. Shaymin needs 1, Nugget needs 3, Super Potion needs 5, Keldeo needs 7, Luxuy Ball needs 10, Rare Candy needs 13, Victini needs 16 and finally, to get a Master Ball, you need 20

...i have no comment. :P