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Um, I'm still kind of a newb to pokemon, so my friend hooked me up with a team...
So here is goes:
Scizor
Nature:Adamant
Item: None
Stats:
HP 288
ATK 394
Def 236
Sp. Atk 131
Sp. Def 196
Speed 223
Move Set:
U-Turn
Aerial Ace
Pursuit
Iron Head
Well, I'm going to try not to "mini-mod". (I think the definition of that word has been distorted over the past few years).
Use aragorn's format. The actual stat value really doesn't help people who try to rate your team. Pokemon @ Item
Trait (If required)
Nature
EVs - Move 1
- Move 2
- Move 3
- Move 4
Um, I'm still kind of a newb to pokemon, so my friend hooked me up with a team...
So here is goes:
Scizor
Nature:Adamant
Item: Leftovers/Focus Sash/Life Orb
Stats:
HP 288
ATK 394
Def 236
Sp. Atk 131
Sp. Def 196
Speed 223
Move Set:
U-Turn
Aerial Ace
Pursuit
Iron Head
Blaziken
Nature:Adamant
Item: Choice Band MAYBE.
Stats:
Hp 302
Atk 372
def 176
sp atk 230
Sp. Def 176
Speed 259
Move Set:
Sky Uppercut
Stone Edge
Flare blitz
Thunderpunch
Gengar
Nature:Hasty
Item: Life Orb
Stats:
Hp 286
Sp.Atk 321
Speed 309
Move Set:
Shadow Ball
Thunderbolt
Focus Blast
Explosion
Blissey
Nature:Bold
Item: Leftovers
Stats:
Hp : 714
Sp.Def 306
Move Set:
Seismic Toss
Softboiled
Ice Beam
Sing
Zapdos
Nature:Modest.
Item: Choice Specs MAYBE
Stats:
Sp. Atk 314
Hp 320
Move Set:
Roost
Hidden Power
Metal Sound
Thunderbolt
Skarmory
Nature: Leftovers
Item:None
Stats:
Hp 332
Def 390
Move Set:
Stealth Rock
Roost
Whirlwind
Drillpeck
Well, this is my team, all help is welcome.
Thanks.
You have a lot of walls, you may want to consider a special attacker/special wall. Hypno maybe.
Edit: I certainly hope I'm not mini-modding. =[ https://www.serebii.net/pokedex-rs/ev.shtml
Should give you an idea on EV training. To sum it up, you're Ko'ing certain Pokemon that give you certain stats. For example, Ko'ing a Pokemon known for a good sum of special defense (Chancey) would result in an unusual raise of Special Defense that level if you KO a significant ammount of Chancey.
Blissey is good enough a special wall. Although I can't tell what those EVs are, I can tell you that your team is incredibly Mixape weak. The only "checks" are Gengar and Zapdos, who, with SR support and a Pursuiter, are destroyed.
The movesets seem fairly decent, surprisingly. Replace Aerial Ace on Scizor for something else, like Brick Break or SD (if you're using CB set, use SD/X-Scissor/Iron Head/Brick Break or Roost.
What are you talking about? The only walls on that team are Blissey and Skarmory. (Blissey's a Special Wall, btw... .-. and Zapdos and Gengar are Special Sweepers...)
Lol, Hypno would be quite a joke in OU with Blissey on the team.
What are you talking about? The only walls on that team are Blissey and Skarmory. (Blissey's a Special Wall, btw... .-. and Zapdos and Gengar are Special Sweepers...)
Lol, Hypno would be quite a joke in OU with Blissey on the team.
Növa, you're really not helping. >_> First off, back up rates & changes with reason. And Scizor a wall? Needs to consider another special sweeper / wall? Know what you're talking about and don't rate without proper knowledge.
This RMT will remain open to help Redozu out. Please don't give him bad advice, c'mon now. And Redozu, check out the S&M stickies and important threads, those should help, especially the rules. :D Even if he doesn't know how to use them yet... it'd be best to give him the proper EV spreads anyway.
First of all, we'll need to post the team in a proper format. We don't want to see stats or anything, because that doesn't give us a very good idea of how strong your Pokemon is, or what range it falls into. Showing us stats makes the post uncluttered and unorganized, also uninteresting to read. We would much rather have Effort Values, or EVs, posted. If you don't know what EVs are, I suggest you take a gander at my dandy guide right here, also posted in the Compiled Guides of Strategies & Movesets. Take a look~
Spoiler:
What are EVs?
"EV" stands for Effort Values. EV Training is a special type of training that can increase your Pokémon's strength by far! An EV trained pokémon is sure to be stronger than a non-EVed Pokémon. A Pokémon can gain the maximum of 510 EV points to split between the stats of HP, Speed, Attack, Defense, Special Attack, and Special Defense. Each individual stat can have the maximum capacity of 255 EV Points.
How do I get EV Points?
When you are in In-Game, battling specific Pokémon will give you some EVs in a certain stat. A Pokémon only gains EVs if it can gain Experience Points. Whenever it gains Experience Points, the user gets EV Points. That means that if you run away, faint, or catch the opponent - you WILL NOT get EVs.
Each Pokémon provides different EV Points when they're defeated. They give a different number of EV Points as well as EVs in different stats.
How exactly does EV training help?
Like I said before, EV training can boost your Pokémon's strength significantly! So how does it boost your strength? Well, for each 4 Points you get while EV training, you get 1 extra Point in your stats. For instance: Starly provides 1 EV Point in Speed, so if you battle 4 Starlys, then your Speed stat will get one extra point. So that means if you max out your Speed EVs, then you will gain 63 extra Speed points. That means that a maxed EVed Speed stat will have 63 more points than the non-EVed pokémon!!!
I'm EV training, but my stats don't seem to change! What am I doing wrong?
You are doing nothing wrong. The results of EV training usually don't show up until your pokémon are at a later level. But not to worry, your EV work will be 100% shown.
Tips for EV Training ...
Well, there are some guidelines you should follow. Remember how you need 4 EVs to raise a stat? Well, 255 is not divisible by 4. So that means some of the EVs have no use! That's correct. You should only get the maximum of 252 EVs in a stat. Be sure that the number of EV points you give to a stat is ALWAYS divisible by 4.
As you probably have noticed, EV training does take a long time. It requires patience and dedication in making a strong pokémon. So here's a tip: write your EV points down! Keep track of the EV points you've gained on a piece of paper - as I doubt you will be able to keep track of 252 EV Points all in your head!
Is there any way to speed up EV Training?
You're in luck: there is! Hold items can boost the amount of EVs a pokémon gains. Here are a list of items that increase EVs.
Stat Boosters - If you feed a Pokémon an item like Protein or Calcium gives you 10 EV points in the stat it raises.
HP Up --- Hit Points
Protein --- Attack
Iron --- Defense
Carbos --- Speed
Calcium --- Sp. Attack
Zinc --- Sp. Defense
Macho Brace - Macho Brace will half your speed when it is held, but whenever you EV train, it doubles your EVs gained. For instance, Starly gives 1 Speed EV Point when it is defeated. So when a pokémon holding a Macho Brace defeats a Starly, it gains not one - but 2 EV points in their stat!
Power Items - Items like Power Anklet and Power Bracer will increase the EVs Gained by +4 EVs Points. So that means if a Pokémon holding a Power Anklet (Speed) defeats a Starly(1 Speed EV), it actually gets 5 EV Points in Speed instead of 1.
-Power Anklet --- boosts Speed EV training. When defeating Pokémon who give speed EVs, the Power Anklet gives +4 in speed. For example, if you defeat a Starly you'll get 5 EVs in speed, one for initially defeating the Starly and four because your Pokémon is holding the Power Anklet
-Power Bracer --- boosts Attack EV training. When defeating Pokémon who give attack EVs the Power Bracer gives +4 in attack. For example, if you defeat a Machop you'll get 5 EVs in attack, one for initially defeating the Machop and four because your Pokémon is holding the Power Bracer
-Power Weight --- boosts HP EV training. When defeating Pokémon who give HP EVs, the Power Weight gives +4 in HP. For example, if you defeat a Bidoof you'll get 5 EVs in HP, one for initially defeating the Bidoof and four because your Pokémon is holding the Power Weight.
-Power Belt --- boosts Defense EV training. When defeating Pokémon who give Defense EVs, the Power Belt gives +4 in Defense. For example, if you defeat a Geodude you'll get 5 EVs in Defense, one for initially defeating the Geodude and four because your Pokémon is holding the Power Belt.
-Power Lens --- boosts Sp. Attack EV training. When defeating Pokémon who give Sp. Attack EVs, the Power Lens gives +4 in Sp. Attack. For example, if you defeat a Ghastly you'll get 5 EVs in Sp. Attack, one for initially defeating the Ghastly and four because your Pokémon is holding the Power Lens.
-Power Band --- boosts Sp. Defense EV training. When defeating Pokémon who give Sp. Defense EVs, the Power Band gives +4 in Sp. Defense. For example, if you defeat a Tentacool you'll get 5 EVs in Sp. Defense, one for initially defeating the Tentacool and four because your Pokémon is holding the Power Band.
Pokérus(PKRS) - Pokérus is NOT an item. It is a very rare disease obtained by battling a pokémon. The disease is even harder to obtain than a shiny pokémon! So if you get it, YOU ARE VERY LUCKY. This disease acts like the Macho Brace without the Speed halving. It doubles the EVs gained but the pokémon can still hold an item.
EV DISTRIBUTION …
You are able to choose the EVs you give a Pokémon. So I should I distribute them properly? Well, first you determine what the role of a Pokémon is. Then you are able to determine the EV Distribution. Here are some guidelines :
- A Sweeper Pokémon will have usually 252 EVs in the Speed. There are some exceptions, such as if a Pokémon holds the Choice Scarf item. (e.g. Weavile has 252 EVs in Speed.)
- A Sweeper Pokémon will have a maxed out stat in Attack OR Special Attack 70% of the time. Ignore this rule if the pokémon you are using is able to defend or is a mixed sweeper (a sweeper with both physical and special moves). (e.g. Rampardos has 252 EVs in Attack)
- A walling pokémon will usually carry a maxed out HP stat. (e.g. Milotic carries 252 HP EVs.)
- A walling pokémon usually carries 252 EVs in their Defense or Special Defense stat. (e.g. Blissey runs 252 Defense EVs)
This makes the post more easily understood, because it is the standard way to post a Pokemon's moveset. You can also add images to make the RMT more appealing to read. For example, if I did a Pokemon rate on Kabutops, I could put this:
Kabutops @ Life Orb / Focus Sash
Trait: Swift Swim
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 80 HP / 252 Attack / 176 Speed
- Waterfall
- Stone Edge
- Aqua Jet / Brick Break
- Swords Dance
This set works great with Rain Dance active, but still can function without it. This set can be much like a rampaging Lucario or Scizor if you put Aqua Jet, which abuses priority along with the Swords Dance boost. The point of this set is to get a Swords Dance in and deal as much damage as possible. Aqua Jet is mostly used without Rain Dance active. This set can deal damage to a LOT of fragile but frail sweepers. With Swords Dance, Kabutop's impressive attack stat, and powerful STAB, this set can really pack a punch!
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That's a pretty good example of a pokemon in the proper format.
I'm not going to focus on the format in this rate, but it's a very helpful suggestion at the least. Here comes the analysis.
Scizor
Nature:Adamant
Item: None
Stats:
HP 288
ATK 394
Def 236
Sp. Atk 131
Sp. Def 196
Speed 223
Move Set:
U-Turn
Aerial Ace
Pursuit
Iron Head
A nice choice for the Platinum metagame. Scizor is among the highest OU Pokemon, and gained a whole lot with the addition of Platinum.
Technician is a key to most of Scizor's movesets. As you may know, Scizor has a ton of priority moves like Quick Attack and Bullet Punch. What Technician will do is that it will multiply it's moves with 60 or less power by 1.5. That means, all priority moves now have 60 base power instead of 40. Remember, that Bullet Punch is indeed a STAB move, extending it's base power even further to a whopping 90 base. That's pretty impressive, and it still manages to strike first every time. Now to stretch that power even further, you have Swords Dance in your movepool. That doubles Scizor's already impressive 130 base attack stat. Scizor's a mighty weapon indeed.
Let's face it. Blaziken is not gonna get a sturdy sweep on another team. It can pack a punch in a switch in, though, and that's what the Choice Band variant is all about. Blaziken got a stronger fighting move in Diamond and Pearl, Superpower. It has 40 more base power than the Sky Uppercut, so it should prove to be quite useful. The moveset looks fine, and always be sure that your Pokemon is holding an item. An item is better than nothing, unless it's something ridiculous like Toxic Orb.
The moveset is okay, but only run Explosion with 136 Attack EVs, which is going to cut down the power of your other moves. However, Gengar does manage to OHKO Blissey with Explosion if it has 136 Attack EVs. I'd much rather prefer the standard Gengar, though. Inducing status can be annoying at times. Otherwise, the moveset looks good. Hasty does nothing beneficial for Gengar though, so go with a Timid nature to outrun potent threats that might outrun you with Modest.
...ack, I forgot about Hypnosis's Accuracy drop in Platinum. You can run your moveset with 136 Attack / 156 Sp.Attack / 216 Speed if you'd like. Hypnosis isn't too reliable anymore.
Bold Blissey is highly outdated. Consider a Calm Blissey instead or special sweepers like Gengar will laugh at it. Seeing as your team does not appreciate status, I'd consider going ClericBliss for this guy... girl. Always, always, always give it Leftovers. I find Sing to be unreliable because of it's low accuracy, and therefore would run Toxic or Thunder Wave instead. If you don't want Aromatherapy, Flamethrower covers almost everything that is immune to Toxic, and is probably a good choice for diversity.
Zapdos makes a sturdy lead these days. I really would rather not put Metal Sound on Zapdos. Even after a use, Zapdos can only 3HKO it, so meh. You could use it, but I rather you not. Zapdos isn't meant to be a true sweeper, but more of a tanking Pokemon, seeing as how it is pretty bulky. Run Bold over Modest for this reason. Not much else to say for this guy. He can pull off a stall decently, so run a more defensive set for Zappy.
Leftovers, always. This is gonna serve as your physical wall for this team. Spikes > Stealth Rock, always. Spikes tends to be more effective, since any non-levitating, non-flying Pokemon is going to take 25% on the switch in every time on three layers. Stealth rock is relatively ineffective because it only does a 12.5% damage neutral. Brave Bird > Drill Peck, because Skarmory wants to inflict as much damage as possible. It can Leftovers / Roost off the excessive damage afterwards, anyways. The moveset is fine, actually. Consider this:
I'm not sure, but I think htere might be a stat calculator somehwere on the web... try finding one and pkugging in the stats to find the EVs.
Back up Kayashi time!
Scizor: Kayashi pretty much covered everything, except that Life Orb> Leftovers is considerable, or running a CHoice Band set. Then again, you have blaziken.
Blaziken: Go with Focus Punch as your 4th move to deal with switches.
Gengar: Explosion set works, or go with all-out ScarfGar:
A very common revenge killer, this guy is very useful.
Blissey: Everything was covered.
Zappy: Everything covered. However, to help with your Mixape weak, you could consider putting in Drill Peck/ HP Flying in there.
SKarm: Fine.
Iwould read the S&M stickies if I were you. It helps a lot. If it takes a long time to get thisteam up and running on wi-fi (which is where I think you're going with this), you can laways try Shoddy Battle to test it out at. Since I have to go sleep now, I'll edit this post with the link tomorrow.
It's actually impossible to tell, as the IVs of your pokemon are very unlikely to be the maximum. But basically, for every 4 EVs a pokemon has in that particular stat, it would have 1 extra stat point. EVs max out at 255 for each stat, although 252 is the most that can be used without wasting the extra 4 that are possible. There is also a total maximum of 510, although the last two don't really count, as 508 is the highest multiple of 4. As far as I am aware, this is all available in the "Compiled Guides" thread.
Now, as this is an in-game team, it would be difficult to change anything but the moves. Many of which can only be done through Pokemon Platinum.
Beachy, for what it's worth, Scizor could be used as a semi-wall in RSE, as it had 70/100/80 defenses, and Forretress' typing. But there is no way it could do anything other than possibly tank this generation.
