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    Ferrothorn (M) @ Choice Band
    Trait: Iron Barbs
    EVs: 248 HP / 252 Atk / 8 SDef
    Brave Nature (+Atk, -Spd)
    • Bulldoze
    • Power Whip
    • Gyro Ball
    • Explosion

    Endures all attacks by Suicune, then finishes it off with a Power Whip or two.
     
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  • Heatran (M) @ Air Balloon
    Trait: Flash Fire
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
    Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
    - Fire Blast/Flamethrower
    - Earth Power
    - Hidden Power [Grass]
    - Dragon Pulse

    252+ Atk Choice Band Ferrothorn Explosion vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Heatran: 170-200 (52.4 - 61.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
    252+ Atk Choice Band Ferrothorn Power Whip vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Heatran: 61-72 (18.8 - 22.2%) -- possible 5HKO
    252+ Atk Choice Band Ferrothorn Gyro Ball (91 BP) vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Heatran: 46-55 (14.1 - 16.9%) -- possible 6HKO
     
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    Star_Storm

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  • Volcarona (F) @ Life Orb
    Ability: Flame Body
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spe
    Modest/Timid
    - Quiver Dance
    - Bug Buzz
    - Fire Blast
    - Hidden Power (Water)

    Switches into a fire move, sets up a Quiver Dance and that's all she wrote! After the Quiver Dance, its special defense is high enough to take anything the Heatran set above can throw at it.
     

    Nah

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    I don't think Volcarona quite counters Heatran, but whatever.

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    -Salamence w/Choice Scarf
    Nature: Hasty
    Ability: Moxie
    EVs: 252 Attack, 252 Speed, 4 Sp.Attack
    Moves: Dragon Claw, Stone Edge, Steel Wing, Fire Blast

    A little different from the normal set, but it works.

    +1 252+ SpA Life Orb Volcarona Fire Blast vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Salamence: 238-281 (71.9 - 84.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
    Salamence survives Volcarona's most powerful attack against it even at +1, then outspeeds due to Choice Scarf, and OHKOs with Stone Edge (which Volcarona has no hope of surviving).
     
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    Corsola @ Leftovers
    Ability: Regenerator
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SAtk
    Bold Nature
    - Scald
    - Ice Beam
    - Recover
    - Toxic​

    252 Atk Salamence Dragon Claw vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Corsola: 109-129 (34.7 - 41%)
    4 SpA Corsola Ice Beam vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Salamence: 224-264 (67.6 - 79.7%)
    WALLED
     

    Nah

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    Well, there's something that probably hasn't been used before. {:3}

    Bit sad for Salamence getting walled by Corsola, of all things.

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    -Sceptile w/Occa Berry
    Nature: Lonely
    Ability: Overgrow
    EVs: 252 AttacK, 252 Speed, 4 Sp.Attack
    Moves: Leaf Blade, Giga Drain, Focus Blast, Rock Slide

    4 SpA Corsola Ice Beam vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Sceptile: 106-126 (37.7 - 44.8%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

    And Leaf Blade/Giga Drain don't really need calcs...
     

    PlatinumDude

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  • Always wanted to do this one:

    Escavalier:
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    -Megahorn
    -Iron Head
    -Drill Run
    -Pursuit
    Nature: Brave
    EVs: 248 HP/252 Atk/8 SDef
    Item: Assault Vest
    Ability: Overcoat

    Escavalier quad resists Leaf Blade and Giga Drain; it's also able to take a Focus Blast nicely thanks to the buffed Special Defense granted by Assault Vest. It still has enough physical bulk to tank a Rock Slide, and OHKOs Sceptile with Megahorn.
     
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    Ninetales (M) @ Air Balloon
    Trait: Drought
    EVs: 80 HP / 56 Def / 252 SAtk / 120 SDef
    Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
    - Fire Blast
    - Energy Ball
    - Will-O-Wisp
    - Flamethrower

    Could take down Escavalier with either Flamethrower or Fire Blast.

    252 SpA Ninetales Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Assault Vest Escavalier in Sun: 508-600 (147.6 - 174.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
    252 SpA Ninetales Flamethrower vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Assault Vest Escavalier in Sun: 412-492 (119.7 - 143%) -- guaranteed OHKO
     
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    Cradily @ Leftovers
    Ability: Suction Cups
    EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SDef
    Careful Nature
    - Curse
    - Rock Slide
    - Rest
    - Sleep Talk​

    252 SpA Ninetales Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Cradily in Sun: 136-162 (36.1 - 43%)
    0 Atk Cradily Rock Slide vs. 60 HP / 0 Def Ninetales: 174-206 (57.6 - 68.2%)
    +6 0 Atk Cradily Rock Slide vs. 60 HP / 0 Def Ninetales: 686-810 (227.1 - 268.2%)
    Just realized that the Ninetales had not only Flamethrower but also Fire Blast. It does quite a bit, boo.
     

    Tyrael

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    Ninja'd :(


    Magnezone @ Choice Specs
    Trait: Magnet Pull
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 SpD
    Modest Nature
    - Flash Cannon
    - HP Fire
    - Thunderbolt
    - Volt Switch

    0 Atk Cradily Rock Slide vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Magnezone: 30-36 (8.7 - 10.4%) -- possibly the worst move ever
    +6 0 Atk Cradily Rock Slide vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Magnezone: 120-141 (34.8 - 40.9%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

    252+ SpA Choice Specs Magnezone Flash Cannon vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Cradily: 296-350 (78.7 - 93%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

    Magnezone takes pretty much nothing from unboosted Rock Slide and can manage to take a few +6 as it is. Will 2HKO back without a doubt with Flash Cannon.
     
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  • Gastrodon (M) @ Wise Glasses
    Trait: Storm Drain
    EVs: 172 HP / 84 Def / 252 SAtk
    Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
    - Surf
    - Earth Power
    - Ice Beam
    - Recover

    252+ SpA Choice Specs Magnezone Flash Cannon vs. 172 HP / 0 SpD Gastrodon: 127-150 (31.2 - 36.9%) -- 79.1% chance to 3HKO
    252+ SpA Wise Glasses Gastrodon Earth Power vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Magnezone: 612-724 (177.9 - 210.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
     

    Zeffy

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    Mantine @Life Orb
    Ability: Water Absorb
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 SpD
    Nature: Modest
    - Hydro Pump
    - Hidden Power Grass
    - Air Slash
    - Rest

    252+ SpA Wise Glasses Gastrodon Ice Beam vs. 4 HP / 252+ SpD Mantine: 54-64 (19.8 - 23.5%) -- possible 5HKO

    252 SpA Life Orb Mantine Hidden Power Grass vs. 172 HP / 0 SpD Gastrodon: 291-348 (71.6 - 85.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

    ...why did I do this again?
     
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    Thundurus-T @ Life Orb
    Trait: Volt Absorb
    EVs: 252 SAtk / 252 Spd / 4 Def
    Timid Nature
    - Agility
    - Thunderbolt
    - Grass Knot
    - Focus Blast

    Should be able to defeat Mantine pretty easily with Thunderbolt.
     
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  • Celebi @ Leftovers
    Trait: Natural Cure
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
    Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
    - Nasty Plot
    - Giga Drain
    - Earth Power
    - Psychic

    252 SpA Life Orb Thundurus-T Thunderbolt vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Celebi: 104-122 (30.4 - 35.6%) -- guaranteed 4HKO after Leftovers recovery
    252+ SpA Celebi Psychic vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Thundurus-T: 162-192 (54 - 64%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
     

    Nah

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    Counter a legendary with another legendary, the counter THAT legendary with yet another one!

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    -Latias w/Life Orb
    Nature: Timid
    Ability: Levitate
    EVs: 252 Sp.Attack, 252 Speed, 4 HP
    Moves: Dragon Pulse, Ice Beam, Recover, Psyshock

    252 SpA Life Orb Latias Ice Beam vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Celebi: 229-270 (66.9 - 78.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

    252+ SpA Celebi Psychic vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Latias: 54-63 (17.8 - 20.8%) -- possible 5HKO

    252+ SpA Celebi Giga Drain vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Latias: 45-53 (14.9 - 17.5%) -- possible 6HKO

    Latias wins.

    And whoever's next, try to do it without using a legendary so we don't get into a legendaries loop.
     

    Dark Azelf

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    Counter a legendary with another legendary, the counter THAT legendary with yet another one!

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    -Latias w/Life Orb
    Nature: Timid
    Ability: Levitate
    EVs: 252 Sp.Attack, 252 Speed, 4 HP
    Moves: Dragon Pulse, Ice Beam, Recover, Psyshock

    252 SpA Life Orb Latias Ice Beam vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Celebi: 229-270 (66.9 - 78.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

    252+ SpA Celebi Psychic vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Latias: 54-63 (17.8 - 20.8%) -- possible 5HKO

    252+ SpA Celebi Giga Drain vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Latias: 45-53 (14.9 - 17.5%) -- possible 6HKO

    Latias wins.

    And whoever's next, try to do it without using a legendary so we don't get into a legendaries loop.

    Who cares, they are ou, so whats the big deal?

    Anyway;

    Genesect@Life Orb
    252 Atk / 176 Speed / 80 HP
    Adamant Nature
    Trait: Download
    - Shift Gear
    - Iron Head
    - X-Scissor
    - Blaze Kick

    Latias cant do anything bar being set up bait.
     
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  • Torkoal (F) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Shell Armor
    EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SDef
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
    - Rapid Spin
    - Lava Plume
    - Stealth Rock
    - Yawn

    Torkoal can take any of Genesect's attacks and OHKO with Lava Plume.
     

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    Kingdra (F) Dragon Fang
    Trait:Sniper
    EVs:252 Speed / 252 Spa / 6 Hp
    Careful nature
    -Dragon pulse
    -Yawn
    -Surf
    -Dragon Dance
     
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  • Kingdra (F) Dragon Fang
    Trait:Sniper
    EVs:252 Speed / 252 Atk / 6 Spa
    Careful nature
    -Dragon pulse
    -Dragon claw
    -Surf
    -Dragon Dance
    First of all, Kingdra does not learn Dragon Claw so the 252 EVs it has on its Attack stat is useless.

    Empoleon (F) @ Life Orb
    Trait: Torrent
    EVs: 252 SAtk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
    Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
    - Agility
    - Hydro Pump
    - Ice Beam
    - Grass Knot

    Grass Knot 2HKOs Kingdra.
     
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    Black Kyurem @ Choice Band
    Trait: Teravolt
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
    Naive Nature(+Spd, -SDef)
    • Outrage
    • Ice Beam
    • Stone Edge
    • Fusion Bolt

    Knocks Empoleon down with only just one Fusion Bolt attack. If you use Outrage, then Empoleon could be defeated within two turns.

    252+ Atk Choice Band Teravolt Kyurem-B Fusion Bolt vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Empoleon: 488-576 (157.9 - 186.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
    252+ Atk Choice Band Teravolt Kyurem-B Outrage vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Empoleon: 219-258 (70.8 - 83.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
     
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