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PlatinumDude

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  • golem

    one hit KO
    earthqaucke

    Full sets would be appreciated. Also, Golem isn't a counter to Mega Houndoom, as it can't switch in to Dark Pulse. A counter has to be able to avoid the 2HKO from that Pokemon in question and Golem can't do that:

    252 SpA Mega Houndoom Dark Pulse vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Golem: 196-232 (64.9 - 76.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

    252 SpA Mega Houndoom Dark Pulse vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Golem: 196-232 (53.8 - 63.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

    Anyway:

    Torterra:
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    -Wood Hammer
    -Earthquake
    -Stone Edge
    -Bullet Seed
    Nature: Jolly
    EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
    Item: Choice Band
    Ability: Overgrow

    Torterra resists QuakeEdge and takes a pittance from Sucker Punch, if Golem carries it. It breaks through Sturdy with Bullet Seed or severely damages Golem with Wood Hammer or Earthquake.
     

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  • Bronzong @lefties
    Levitate

    Gyro ball
    Stealth rock
    Toxic
    Protect

    242 HP
    242 Def
    4 SpD
     

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    Counter that Pokemon! (READ THE FREAKING FIRST POST)

    -Delphox w/Choice Specs
    Ability: Blaze
    Nature: Modest
    EVs: 252 Sp.Attack, 252 Speed, 4 Defense
    Moves: Fire Blast, Psyshock, Grass Knot, Shadow Ball
     

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  • Gengar@gengarite
    252 SpA/252 Speed/4 HP

    Shadow Ball
    Focus Blast
    Sludge Wave
    Thunderbolt
     

    Nah

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    Mega Gengar is Ubers, so you can't use that.

    Countering regular Gengar instead:

    -Blissey w/Leftovers
    Nature: Calm
    Ability: Natural Cure
    EVs: 252 Defense, 252 Sp.Defense, 4 HP
    Moves: Soft-Boiled, Flamethrower, Heal Bell, Thunder Wave

    Lols at all of it its attacks, including Focus Blast:

    252 SpA Gengar Focus Blast vs. 4 HP / 252+ SpD Blissey: 154-182 (23.6 - 27.9%) -- possible 5HKO after Leftovers recovery

    Then eventually kills it via Flamethrower+Soft Boiled.

    Mega Gengar is Ubers, so you can't use that.

    Countering regular Gengar instead:

    -Blissey w/Leftovers
    Nature: Calm
    Ability: Natural Cure
    EVs: 252 Defense, 252 Sp.Defense, 4 HP
    Moves: Soft-Boiled, Flamethrower, Heal Bell, Thunder Wave

    Lols at all of it its attacks, including Focus Blast:

    252 SpA Gengar Focus Blast vs. 4 HP / 252+ SpD Blissey: 154-182 (23.6 - 27.9%) -- possible 5HKO after Leftovers recovery

    Then eventually kills it via Flamethrower+Soft Boiled.
     

    Dark Azelf

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    Eeelektross@Life Orb
    252 Atk / 132 SpA / 124 Spe
    Naughty Nature
    Trait: Levitate
    - Wild Charge
    - Giga Drain
    - Flamethrower
    - Hidden Power Ice

    Immune to T-Wave etc. Wild Charge 2HKOS.
     
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    cscof

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  • Sawk@choice band
    Mold breaker
    252 atk
    252spd
    4hp

    Close combat
    Earthquake
    Ice punch
    Stone edge

    Mold breaker e-quake equals cake
     

    BadPokemon

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  • Physically defensive Mega Venusaur. It can switch into any hit and sludge bomb it to death and recover health with synthesis. Can toxic or leech seed on predicted switch out.
     

    KorpiklaaniVodka

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  • Charizard @ Charizardite X
    Trait: Tough Claws
    EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
    Adamant Nature

    - Tailwind
    - Swords Dance
    - Dragon Claw
    - Flare Blitz

    Zard X can double dance on Mega Venusaur all day long (as long as Stealth Rock isn't present) and eventually OHKO with Dragon Claw.
     
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    Rhyperior @ Leftovers
    Ability: Solid Rock
    EVs: 212 HP / 44 Atk / 252 Def
    Adamant Nature
    - Earthquake
    - Stone Edge
    - Ice Punch
    - Protect

    X-Zard needs at least 3 turns to KO Rhyperior, while the latter can OHKO with Earthquake.
     

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    Counter that Pokemon! (READ THE FREAKING FIRST POST)

    -Greninja w/Expert Belt
    Nature: Timid
    Ability: Protean
    EVs: 252 Sp.Attack, 252 Speed, 4 HP
    Moves: Hydro Pump, Extrasensory, Ice Beam, Hidden Power Fire

    Just barely survives Earthquake or Stone Edge:
    44+ Atk Rhyperior Earthquake vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Greninja: 228-268 (79.7 - 93.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
    44+ Atk Rhyperior Stone Edge vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Greninja: 228-268 (79.7 - 93.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

    Then kills with Hydro Pump.
     

    Dark Azelf

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    Gyarados@Gyaradosite
    Adamant Nature
    252 Atk / 252 Speed / 6 HP
    Intimidate ---> Mold Breaker
    - Dragon Dance
    - Ice Fang
    - Waterfall
    - Earthquake


    Resists whole moveset and sets up.
     

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    Ferrothorn @ Leftovers
    Ability: Iron Barbs
    EVs: 252 HP / 88 Def / 168 SpD
    Impish Nature
    - Stealth Rock
    - Leech Seed
    - Power Whip
    - Gyro Ball

    2HKOs you with Power Whip while only being 3HKO'd by Earthquake if you Dragon Dance on the switch in.

    Calcs:

    252+ Atk Mold Breaker Mega Gyarados Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 88+ Def Ferrothorn: 92-109 (26.1 - 30.9%) -- 5.4% chance to 4HKO after Leftovers recovery


    +1 252+ Atk Mold Breaker Mega Gyarados Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 88+ Def Ferrothorn: 137-162 (38.9 - 46%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
     

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  • Charizard @ Charizardite X
    Ability: Blaze
    EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
    Adamant Nature
    - Dragon Dance
    - Fire Punch
    - Dragon Claw
    - Earthquake

    It can set up on Ferrothorn because it will most likely force a switch. If, however, for some reason the Ferrothron can't or won't switch, Fire Punch at +1 or even +2 if it's able to pull it off is more than enough to KO it, it was used over Flare Blitz for the fear of recoil.
     

    KorpiklaaniVodka

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  • Blargh, that set is really hard to counter...

    Quagsire @ Leftovers
    Trait: Unaware
    EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Def
    Impish Nature

    - Earthquake
    - Toxic
    - Stockpile
    - Recover

    Normally a bad set, but Stockpile Quag can counter Zard X reliably and set up Stockpiles on it, before 3HKOing with EQ.
     

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    -Roserade w/Black Sludge
    Nature: Calm
    Ability: Natural Cure
    EVs: 252 HP, 240 Sp.Defense, 16 Speed
    Moves: Giga Drain, Sludge Bomb, Sleep Powder, Hidden Power Fire

    Too bad Quag has a horrible Grass weakness.
     

    Detox

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    Are we using UU Pokemon now? Okay then.

    Counter that Pokemon! (READ THE FREAKING FIRST POST)

    Xatu @ Leftovers
    Ability: Magic Bounce
    EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
    Calm Nature
    - Psychic
    - U-turn
    - Thunder Wave
    - Roost

    0 SpA Xatu Psychic vs. 252 HP / 240+ SpD Roserade: 132-156 (40.7 - 48.1%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Black Sludge recovery

    0 SpA Roserade Sludge Bomb vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Xatu: 106-126 (31.7 - 37.7%) -- 0.2% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery

    Plus I have Roost
     

    Laylaw

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    Sableye @ Leftovers
    Ability: Stall
    EVs: 252 Attack / 252 SpD / 4HP
    Adamant Nature

    - Payback
    - Shadow Claw
    - Fake Out
    - Confuse Ray
     

    PlatinumDude

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  • Counter that Pokemon! (READ THE FREAKING FIRST POST)
    Sableye @ Leftovers
    Ability: Stall
    EVs: 252 Attack / 252 SpD / 4HP
    Adamant Nature

    - Payback
    - Shadow Claw
    - Fake Out
    - Confuse Ray

    I don't think that particular Sableye set is good. Why use Stall, a downright terrible ability, when you can use Prankster, the go-to ability on Sableye? Sure, Sableye gets shut down by Xatu, but Knock Off and Foul Play spam are generally better options than Payback and Shadow Claw. The EV spread is also rather inefficient. Sorry for nitpicking, but that Sableye set is a gimmick at best and Sableye has better things to do.

    Anyway:

    Bisharp:
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    -Sucker Punch
    -Iron Head
    -Knock Off
    -Pursuit
    Nature: Adamant
    EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
    Item: Black Glasses/Dread Plate (these do the same thing, really)
    Ability: Defiant

    Easily comes in on whatever offensive move Sableye does and cripples it with Knock Off or inflicts massive damage with Pursuit upon switching out.
     
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    Conkeldurr @ Assault Vest
    Ability: Guts
    EVs: 252 Atk / 252 SpD / 4 Def
    Adamant Nature
    - Drain Punch
    - Mach Punch
    - Knock Off
    - Ice Punch

    252+ Atk Black Glasses Bisharp Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Conkeldurr: 105-125 (29.9 - 35.6%) -- 30.3% chance to 3HKO
    252+ Atk Bisharp Iron Head vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Conkeldurr: 145-172 (41.3 - 49%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
    The other two moves are even worse

    252+ Atk Conkeldurr Drain Punch vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Bisharp: 576-676 (211.7 - 248.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
     
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