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Current team, works well, but want to change a little.

TheGamingKiddo

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    Hey guys, so here is a picture of my current team, I feel like I could do with switching the Tyranitar, Ninetales or the Doublade.
    I feel like the Doublade usually gets koed too fast, unless I get him properly set up, in which case he destroys, but its too hard to get him into that position. The Tyranitar is tanky as anything, and dishes out some major damage, but I feel the sandstorm hurts my team a bit more than I'd really like, plus I'm not really sure if he fits with my team comp all that well. The Ninetales is a bit like Doublade, it wrecks them, but is so easy to be downed. Is there another potential Pokemon I could substitute here?
    So just looking for a bit of feedback really, everything else seems to work really well. Thanks again guys.

    Current team, works well, but want to change a little.

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    PlatinumDude

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    • Assault Vest prevents Tyranitar from using status moves like Protect. Specially defensive Tyranitar should look like this:
    -Stone Edge/Rock Slide
    -Crunch
    -Pursuit
    -Fire Blast/Stealth Rock
    Nature: Sassy/Careful
    EVs: 252 HP/4 Atk/252 SDef
    Item: Assault Vest/Leftovers
    Ability: Sand Stream

    Even though Doublade has monstrous physical bulk with Eviolite, its special bulk is still terrible. Aegislash is still better because it has equally good Defense and Special Defense:
    -Shadow Ball
    -Sacred Sword/Shadow Sneak
    -Iron Head/Shadow Sneak
    -King's Shield
    Nature: Quiet
    EVs: 240 HP/252 SAtk/4 SDef/12 Spe
    Item: Leftovers

    or
    -Shadow Ball
    -Shadow Sneak
    -Sacred Sword
    -King's Shield/Iron Head
    Nature: Quiet
    EVs: 252 Atk/252 SAtk/4 SDef
    Item: Leftovers

    or
    -Swords Dance
    -Shadow Claw/King's Shield
    -Shadow Sneak
    -Sacred Sword
    Nature: Adamant
    EVs: 240 HP/252 Atk/4 SDef/12 Spe
    Item: Leftovers/Life Orb

    or
    -Swords Dance
    -Autotomize
    -Shadow Claw
    -Sacred Sword
    Nature: Adamant
    EVs: 88 HP/252 Atk/168 Spe
    Item: Leftovers

    or
    -Autotomize
    -Shadow Ball
    -Hidden Power (Ice)
    -Sacred Sword/Iron Head/Flash Cannon
    Nature: Rash/Modest
    EVs: 88 Atk/252 SAtk/168 Spe
    Item: Life Orb/Weakness Policy

    Togekiss appreciates its Leftovers recovery, even in sand, since it can wear itself down without Leftovers, even with Roost.

    Meowstic is absolute Taunt bait. Klefki, Whimsicott and Sableye make better Prankster users, IMO, because the former takes hits better than Meowstic, while the latter two are a lot more disruptive:

    Klefki:
    -Reflect
    -Light Screen
    -Spikes
    -Foul Play/Dazzling Gleam
    Nature: Bold
    EVs: 252 HP/152 Def/104 SDef
    Item: Light Clay
    Ability: Prankster

    Sableye:
    -Will-o-Wisp
    -Taunt
    -Recover
    -Foul Play/Confide/Knock Off
    Nature: Calm/Careful
    EVs: 252 HP/4 Def/252 SDef
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Prankster

    Whimsicott:
    -Encore
    -U-turn
    -Memento
    -Switcheroo/Stun Spore/Taunt
    Nature: Impish
    EVs: 252 HP/252 Def/4 SDef
    Item: Lagging Tail/Leftovers
    Ability: Prankster

    Blastoise's niche is a bulky Rapid Spinner. You're not using that niche at all:
    -Water Pulse/Scald/Hydro Pump
    -Dark Pulse
    -Aura Sphere/Ice Beam
    -Rapid Spin
    Nature: Modest
    EVs: 252 HP/252 SAtk/4 SDef
    Item: Blastoisinite

    Wish support would be good for the rest of the team, especially for Blastoise and Tyranitar. Sylveon can do that:
    -Wish
    -Protect
    -Hyper Voice
    -Heal Bell
    Nature: Bold
    EVs: 252 HP/252 Def/4 SDef
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Pixilate
     

    TheGamingKiddo

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    PlatinumDude said:
    Assault Vest prevents Tyranitar from using status moves like Protect. Specially defensive Tyranitar should look like this:
    -Stone Edge/Rock Slide
    -Crunch
    -Pursuit
    -Fire Blast/Stealth Rock
    Nature: Sassy/Careful
    EVs: 252 HP/4 Atk/252 SDef
    Item: Assault Vest/Leftovers
    Ability: Sand Stream

    Even though Doublade has monstrous physical bulk with Eviolite, its special bulk is still terrible. Aegislash is still better because it has equally good Defense and Special Defense:
    -Shadow Ball
    -Sacred Sword/Shadow Sneak
    -Iron Head/Shadow Sneak
    -King's Shield
    Nature: Quiet
    EVs: 240 HP/252 SAtk/4 SDef/12 Spe
    Item: Leftovers

    or
    -Shadow Ball
    -Shadow Sneak
    -Sacred Sword
    -King's Shield/Iron Head
    Nature: Quiet
    EVs: 252 Atk/252 SAtk/4 SDef
    Item: Leftovers

    or
    -Swords Dance
    -Shadow Claw/King's Shield
    -Shadow Sneak
    -Sacred Sword
    Nature: Adamant
    EVs: 240 HP/252 Atk/4 SDef/12 Spe
    Item: Leftovers/Life Orb

    or
    -Swords Dance
    -Autotomize
    -Shadow Claw
    -Sacred Sword
    Nature: Adamant
    EVs: 88 HP/252 Atk/168 Spe
    Item: Leftovers

    or
    -Autotomize
    -Shadow Ball
    -Hidden Power (Ice)
    -Sacred Sword/Iron Head/Flash Cannon
    Nature: Rash/Modest
    EVs: 88 Atk/252 SAtk/168 Spe
    Item: Life Orb/Weakness Policy

    Togekiss appreciates its Leftovers recovery, even in sand, since it can wear itself down without Leftovers, even with Roost.

    Meowstic is absolute Taunt bait. Klefki, Whimsicott and Sableye make better Prankster users, IMO, because the former takes hits better than Meowstic, while the latter two are a lot more disruptive:

    Klefki:
    -Reflect
    -Light Screen
    -Spikes
    -Foul Play/Dazzling Gleam
    Nature: Bold
    EVs: 252 HP/152 Def/104 SDef
    Item: Light Clay
    Ability: Prankster

    Sableye:
    -Will-o-Wisp
    -Taunt
    -Recover
    -Foul Play/Confide/Knock Off
    Nature: Calm/Careful
    EVs: 252 HP/4 Def/252 SDef
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Prankster

    Whimsicott:
    -Encore
    -U-turn
    -Memento
    -Switcheroo/Stun Spore/Taunt
    Nature: Impish
    EVs: 252 HP/252 Def/4 SDef
    Item: Lagging Tail/Leftovers
    Ability: Prankster

    Blastoise's niche is a bulky Rapid Spinner. You're not using that niche at all:
    -Water Pulse/Scald/Hydro Pump
    -Dark Pulse
    -Aura Sphere/Ice Beam
    -Rapid Spin
    Nature: Modest
    EVs: 252 HP/252 SAtk/4 SDef
    Item: Blastoisinite

    Wish support would be good for the rest of the team, especially for Blastoise and Tyranitar. Sylveon can do that:
    -Wish
    -Protect
    -Hyper Voice
    -Heal Bell
    Nature: Bold
    EVs: 252 HP/252 Def/4 SDef
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Pixilate
    Click to expand...

    Thanks, this looks really good, It was only a team I chucked together earlier.
    However, with the Aegislash wouldn't I be better off having Iron head, purely to eliminate any fairy threats? They were causing me big problems, which is the main reason I brought the move in, and that seems to have helped.
    I'm thinking of maybe going: Shadow claw, Sacred sword, Kings shield, Iron head. Does that sound viable?

    Edit: My bad, just realised you did actually have a build with Iron Head, thanks again!
     
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    I have one other thing to add. Ninetales is awful. I don't see why anyone would use it anymore unless you're doing a sun team and either wanna have 2 sun summoners or hate Mega Charizard Y.

    Plenty of better fire types exist: Infernape, Heatran, Talonflame, Charizard's mega forms, Volcarona, Arcanine, Rotom-H, Chandelure, etc.
     
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