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First competitive team.

Bones822

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    • Seen May 30, 2013
    Hello Everyone,
    I want to start this off by saying this is my first time using a forum, so if I did something wrong, please correct me!

    Also, while I've played Pokemon avidly since '98 with Blue version, this is my first time trying out EV training and whatnot, so here's the rough-draft of the team I'll hope to have.

    Charizard:
    Air Slash
    Heat Wave
    Roost
    Dragon Pulse

    Lucario:
    Aura Sphere
    Psychic
    Extremespeed
    Dragon Pulse

    Zoroark:
    Flamethrower
    Night Burst/ Night Slash
    Aerial Ace
    U-Turn

    Eelektross:
    Thunder/Thunderbolt
    Giga Drain
    Flamethrower
    Flash Cannon

    Hydreigon:
    Outrage
    Flamethrower
    Crunch
    Earthquake

    Swampert:
    Hammer Arm
    Earthquake
    Waterfall
    Ice Punch

    Please let me know what you guys think, and any input is appreciated!
     

    srinator

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    well to actually help you out i need to know your pokemon's ev spread,items and nature :) the team looks decent enough but pls mention the above :) and also hello :)
     

    Bones822

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    • Seen May 30, 2013
    Right. As of now, I don't have items for any of them.
    Natures are:
    Charizard(modest)
    Lucario(modest)
    Zoroark(adamant)
    Eelektross(adamant)
    Hydreigon(modest)
    Swampert(adamant)

    The EV spread is not currently available, as I'm still in the process of actually training these bad boys. I don't want to screw them up.
     
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    PlatinumDude

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    • It's better that you have the EV spreads right at this very moment. I'm afraid you have to do some re-breeding on your Pokémon:

    Let's face it; Charizard plain sucks in OU because of its 4x Stealth Rock weakness. While Volcarona also shares that weakness, it hits harder than Charizard does:
    -Quiver Dance
    -Fire Blast/Fiery Dance
    -Bug Buzz
    -Giga Drain/Hidden Power (Ground)
    Nature: Timid/Modest
    EVs: 252 SAtk/4 SDef/252 Spe
    Item: Life Orb/Lum Berry

    or
    -Quiver Dance
    -Fiery Dance
    -Bug Buzz
    -Roost
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 240 HP/252 Def/16 Spe
    Item: Leftovers

    or
    -Quiver Dance
    -Fire Blast/Fiery Dance
    -Bug Buzz
    -Rest
    Nature: Modest
    EVs: 160 HP/236 SAtk/116 Spe
    Item: Chesto Berry

    Mixed Lucario seems tempting, but it's tricky to split its offensive EVs. It's better off all-physical or all-special:
    -Swords Dance
    -Close Combat
    -ExtremeSpeed
    -Ice Punch/Crunch/Shadow Claw/Bullet Punch
    Nature: Adamant/Jolly
    EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
    Item: Life Orb

    or
    -Nasty Plot
    -Aura Sphere
    -Dark Pulse/Shadow Ball
    -Vacuum Wave/Hidden Power (Ice)
    Nature: Modest/Timid
    EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Life Orb

    In order for Zoroark to be on the team, you need someone on the team who can disguise it as something that can take Bug or Fighting moves (because Illusion makes Zoroark take on the appearance of the teammate in the last team slot, and it wears off if Zoroark gets it). Volcarona should be in the last slot of the team, since it resists both Bug and Fighting moves. Zoroark's moves need switching around. Aerial Ace doesn't serve any purpose besides hitting Fighting types super effectively, and a unSTABed neutral Focus Blast does as much as an unSTABed super effective Aerial Ace. U-turn doesn't see use unless Zoroark is Choiced. Adamant is a terrible nature on Zoroark, since it wastes away its excellent Special Attack:
    -Sucker Punch
    -Low Kick
    -Flamethrower
    -Dark Pulse/Hidden Power (Ice)
    Nature: Naughty
    EVs: 200 Atk/92 SAtk/216 Spe
    Item: Life Orb

    or
    -Dark Pulse
    -Focus Blast
    -Flamethrower/Hidden Power (Ice)
    -Trick/U-turn
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Choice Specs/Choice Scarf

    or
    -Swords Dance
    -Sucker Punch
    -Low Kick
    -Flamethrower/Night Slash
    Nature: Naughty
    EVs: 252 Atk/40 SAtk/216 Spe
    Item: Life Orb

    or
    -Nasty Plot
    -Dark Pulse
    -Focus Blast
    -Substitute/Flamethrower
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Life Orb/Focus Sash

    Eelektross may seem tempting to use because of its lack of weaknesses and wide movepool, but it's just too slow. Rotom-W or Jolteon should replace it, as both are faster:

    Rotom-W:
    -Volt Switch
    -Hydro Pump
    -Will-o-Wisp
    -Pain Split/Hidden Power (Ice)
    Nature: Modest
    EVs: 232 HP/56 SAtk/220 Spe
    Item: Leftovers

    or
    -Volt Switch
    -Hydro Pump
    -Thunder Wave/Will-o-Wisp
    -Pain Split
    Nature: Calm
    EVs: 248 HP/28 SAtk/232 SDef
    Item: Leftovers

    or
    -Volt Switch
    -Hydro Pump
    -Hidden Power (Ice)
    -Trick/Thunderbolt
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Choice Specs/Choice Scarf

    Jolteon:
    -Thunderbolt
    -Volt Switch
    -Signal Beam
    -Hidden Power (Ice)
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 4 Def/252 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Life Orb/Choice Specs
    Ability: Volt Absorb

    Hydreigon has a massive movepool, but some coverage moves are better to use than others:
    -Draco Meteor
    -Fire Blast
    -Superpower
    -Roost/Earthquake/Earth Power/Dark Pulse
    Nature: Rash/Mild
    EVs: 4 Atk/252 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Expert Belt/Life Orb

    or
    -Substitute
    -Dragon Pulse
    -Focus Blast
    -Fire Blast/Roost

    or
    -Draco Meteor
    -Focus Blast
    -Fire Blast/Flamethrower
    -U-turn/Dark Pulse
    Nature: Modest
    EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Choice Specs

    Since you have a Pokémon extremely vulnerable to Stealth Rock, a Rapid Spinner is pretty much mandatory to get said hazard off the field. Starmie fills that slot in nicely:
    -Hydro Pump/Surf
    -Psyshock/Thunderbolt
    -Ice Beam/Recover
    -Rapid Spin
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 252 SAtk/4 SDef/252 Spe
    Item: Leftovers/Life Orb
    Ability: Natural Cure

    or
    -Scald
    -Rapid Spin
    -Psyshock/Ice Beam/Thunderbolt
    -Recover
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 248 HP/36 Def/224 Spe
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Natural Cure
     
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