First Two Hours (Spoilers)

[Iceshadow3317]

Hello everyone! I know not everyone has seen the video from GameXplain or know what some people are talking about.

Another thing, I don't think there is a thread compiling a list of what we know in the first 2 hours. However, PokeJungle has made a list and I wanted to bring it over here for speculation.

Proceed at your own risk. There are spoilers. Also remember, this stuff is confirmed.

To give PokeJungle their credit, here is the link: https://pokejungle.net/2016/10/16/two-hours-in-alola-what-weve-learned/

Here is a link to GameXplain's Video: (I think this is the right one, they have a lot of videos) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvPopri64yo

Here is the info straight from PokeJungle, and I want to try to explain things that we have already seen and stuff I have said in other threads about this. However, there is info spread through other threads.

Pokemon:

Spoiler:

~ Several players confirmed that they saw new Pokémon and Alolan Forms, but aren't allowed to go into detail (Note: I would say around 3 to 4 at least. And I doubt they were evolutions in the first 2 hours)

~ About "10-15" unique Pokémon (both new and old) were encountered in the two hours by trainer battles and in the wild (We have about 8 confirmed pokemon on Melemele from early gameplay trailers. That leaves around 7 more)

~ Original Forms of Alolan Form Pokémon were not encountered (i.e. Players only encountered Alolan Rattata, not Kanto Rattata) (Note: However, it is confirmed we can have both in a single game if we transfer from XYORAS.)

Mechanics:

Spoiler:

~ The D-Pad is no longer used for moving in the overworld – movement is no longer gridlocked and only the analog stick is used.

~ Default speed for movement in the overworld is now running, not walking.

~ The sneaking up on Pokémon mechanic from ORAS has been removed entirely.

~ Not as much noticeable frame-rate slow downs in general as there were in the previous generation (i.e. in battles with animations turned on)

~ 3D has been removed completely from the game other than important cutscenes and the PokéFinder

~ The 3D apparently does slow the frame rate down in cutscenes, but not as bad as it did in Gen VI

~ However, the stereoscopic 3D in the PokéFinder slows down the framerate to a very irritating and extremely noticeable degree`

General:

Spoiler:

~ Sun & Moon is fairly fast paced and throws you into the adventure right away. Players note how you're able to catch and battle Pokémon and Trainers well before a formal tutorial.

~ In the two hours of gameplay, very few people got to the first trial, much less completed it. (Note: For GameXplain, they did not make it to the trial. They were told they were still 30 minutes away and that they were some of the people who got the furthest.)

~ Reward money is plentiful in the Alola Region. (Was in BW and XY as well. ORAS suffered)

~ You are able to change your hairstyle in the first major city.

~ The local Alolan Pokédex is split into four sections – one for each island – similar to the Kalos Pokédex. (In an early screen shot, there was a total of 5 blanks in the Dex. I still personally believe there is a 5th Island. As the Kalos Dex did not show the Nation Dex still after the story)

~ The player has a WiiU in their house – not an NX.

~ Confirmation that you do get medals for completing trials.

~ Several trials must be completed before challenging the Kahuna of the island.

~ When a Pokémon evolves you see its entire evolutionary family on screen.

~ Poké Pelago and Poké Ride were not available in the first two hours of the game.

~ Tackle has reportedly been lowered down to 40 basepower (as opposed to Gen VI's 50 BP)

Story/Characters: (Major Spoilers for Some)

Spoiler:

~ The early events of Sun & Moon take place over several days. (Note: This is In-Game time, not real-time. Similar to how early Harvest Moon Games and Guilds Wars 2 are.)

~ The protagonist moved to the Alola Region from Kanto and arrived via plane

~ The protagonist's father is mentioned, however you do not meet him in the first two hours.

~ Early in the game, the protagonist falls off a bridge and is saved by Tapu Koko.

~ Prof. Kukui previously battled the Indigo Gym Leaders while researching Pokémon moves in Kanto.

~ Before choosing your starter Pokémon, Lillie gives you a mysterious stone which is revealed to be a Z-Crystal later on.

~ However, they did not get to use Z-Moves or Mega Evolution in the first two hours.

~ After defeating Hau a second time, Hala gives you the Z-Ring.

~ There is a Tauros that blocks the road to prevent you from continuing on to a certain area at one point.

~ You meet the first Trial Captain, Ilima, at the Trainers' School.

~ The EXP. Share is given to you at the Trainers' School and still gives experience to your entire team. (Note: I am sure this is toggle-able)

~ The Gumshoos trail is the first in the game.

I think that is all for now. Remember this is all form the First 2 Hours of gameplay and is confirmed. I do not think this is the Demo. This was actual gameplay.

 

[Nath74K]

Thank you for summing it all up! I saw that video on youtube but didn't have the courage to watch it in its entirety ahahah

A lot of interesting stuff in here, can't wait to have the game in my hands!

 

[clbgolden]

Several trials before the Kahuna? Hmm... This might debunk the "only seven trials" thing, as well as confirm another Melemele trial.

 

[kingdenas]

Nice to see they've encountered new Pokémon in the first 2 hours of gameplay =D

 

[Nath74K]

Nice to see they've encountered new Pokémon in the first 2 hours of gameplay =D

Hopefully it means the 80 new-pokémon rumour is false!

 

[kingdenas]

Hopefully it means the 80 new-pokémon rumour is false!

Yes, I really hope that rumour is false. If this generation brings up few Pokémon (ala X and Y) I'll be disappointed :c

 

[Arjay]

Putting my reply in a spoiler just in case. :)

Spoiler:

Will the D-pad be used for just menu navigation then? Also, when you say running is now the default movement speed, does that mean we can change the default speed, or is walking not possible at all? Because I think I might find that kind of annoying. Sometimes it's nice to just take a stroll.

 

[MidNite92]

This just made me even more hype for the game!! Thanx for the post

 

[Coconutteh]

The fact that there are unrevealed pokemon (both new and alolan forms) is exciting, especially that early in the game. Looking back to X and Y, there weren't as many new pokemon early on - basically just Bunnelby, Fletchling, Scatterbug, Flabebe and Litleo, to name a few, and even those were spread out fairly sparsely across the first few hours. Even after that it felt like encountering a new pokemon took a bit of effort because they were spread so thin. Don't get me wrong, I love having options, but it just felt like finding a new pokemon wasn't as exciting as it had been in previous generations, where it seemed like every patch of grass had something new.

I'm hoping there's a slightly better distribution of the new pokemon this time around, and based on the information given it certainly sounds like that's the case.

Other notes:

I'm glad that the sneaking mechanic is no longer a thing, and that running is now the default - sneaking was just a pain, as was constantly holding down the B Button. I *am* hoping for some iteration of the DexNav to return though. It was a fun feature.

Not happy that I can't use the D-Pad anymore. It's more of a personal thing, but I grew up using the D-Pad for everything and the analog just doesn't feel as comfortable.

*Several trials. I wonder if it's been debunked that there are only seven trials? I had read on one of the reviews that someone had said seven, but I'm hoping for more than that.

 

[Hikamaru]

Running being the default movement is a bit of an issue since some of us liked having the option to both walk and run. D-Pad not being used to move in the overworld was something I expected due to the overworld no longer being grid-based, but I could still see it used in the Bag and Pokemon menu and the Pokedex.

 

[Green Pidgeot]

All of the new Pokémon sound exciting!

Not as excited about the Exp. Share, though...

 

[OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire]

That much is known? I wonder what role the dad will play, if any.

 

[Hikamaru]

Not as excited about the Exp. Share, though...

Well, it was expected the Exp. Share will retain its 6th Gen mechanics. Now let's hope people remember to toggle it OFF if they don't want to use it.

 

[classiccartoonsftw]

Wait, they say the sneaking up on Pokemon mechanic has been removed? What do they mean? Do they mean that Pokemon can pop up randomly in the overworld, and you can just run to them and battle them? Or do they mean that wild Pokemon can't pop up in the overworld anymore?

 

[MarinoKadame]

The sneaking stuff is what was in ORAS with those bushes moving.

 

[blue]

I like how the default movement is running and that it is available right from the off. One thing that irked me about X/Y was you were almost forced into using the roller skates if you wanted to move faster than standard movement.

 

[Green Pidgeot]

Wait, they say the sneaking up on Pokemon mechanic has been removed? What do they mean? Do they mean that Pokemon can pop up randomly in the overworld, and you can just run to them and battle them? Or do they mean that wild Pokemon can't pop up in the overworld anymore?

They probably mean that they won't show up in the OW to look for.

 

[Ho-Oh]

From the sounds of it the games are gonna take at least like... 20 hours at minimum just to complete trials (unless my maths is off?) that and story... is this gonna be the longest Pokemon game ever? lol

 

[Green Pidgeot]

Maybe not for speedrunners. Hope the trials dont take too much time, tho.

 

[Iceshadow3317]

Wait, they say the sneaking up on Pokemon mechanic has been removed? What do they mean? Do they mean that Pokemon can pop up randomly in the overworld, and you can just run to them and battle them? Or do they mean that wild Pokemon can't pop up in the overworld anymore?

I think the video meant that only sneaking was removed. It is possible that there will be something similar as the Dexnav, we just don't have to sneak to get them. It is possible that we can't spook them anymore.

I do not think it has been confirmed that DexNav has been removed, but it is possible. They said they wanted to make shiny pokemon a bit more common a while ago when XY first came out, so I am not sure why they would remove the feature completely.


Also, I would say the D-Pad will still be usable for the Menus and what not. Not sure why they would completely remove D-Pad usability from the games when even the newest DS, still has the D-Pad.

As for Default Speed being running. I think they just mean that we don't need running shoes anymore. There has been times in trailers where we have seen the characters walking, not running, so we might have a choice. And of course, we will probably have a bike and... maybe skates... not sure on skates.