Go Swampert!

[Postman]

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Swampert @ Leftovers
252 HP/252 Def
Impish Nature
- Earthquake
- Blizzard
- Roar
- Stealth Rock
*

Changes Made:
- Move Avalanche changed to Ice Beam
- Move Ice Beam changed to Blizzard

Lucario @ Life Orb
252 Atk /252 Speed
Jolly Nature
- Crunch
- Sword Dance
- Extreme Speed
- Close Combat
* My Lucario also has HP Ice.

Changes Made:

Gyarados @ Life Orb
252 Attack /252 Speed
Adamant Nature
- Dragon Dance
- Ice Fang
- Stone Edge
- Waterful
* I've been switching this around with a Scarfed Heracross.

Changes Made:
- Item Choice Scarf changed to Life Orb

Salamence @ Choice Specs
252 Sp.Atk /252 Speed
Modest Nature
- Draco Meteor
- Dragon Pulse
- Fire Blast
- HP Ground
*

Changes Made:
- Move Hydro Pump changed to HP Ground

Gengar @ Choice Scarf
252 Sp.Atk /252 Speed
Timid Nature
- Shadow Ball
- Thunderbolt
- Focus Blast
- Destiny Bond
*

Changes Made:
- Move Hypnosis changed to Thunderbolt
- Move Energy Ball changed to Focus Blast
- Item Life Orb changed to Choice Scarf

Blissey @ Leftovers
252 Def/ 176 Def/ 80 Def
Calm Nature
- Aromatherapy
- Softboiled
- Thunder Wave
- Seismic Toss
*

Changes Made:
- Nature changed to calm
- Evs changed to 252 Def/ 176 Def/ 80 Sp.Def​

 

[Lalapizzame]

Use Ice Beam >> Avalanche on Swampert, now. Ice Beam would do more to Dragons then Avalanche will ever do thanks to Intimidate. If you are going to use Ice Beam, change the EV spread to 240 HP / 216 Def / 52 SpA and make the nature Relaxed. Also, Hydro Pump >> Stealth Rock or Roar, to do more to Ground-types that are not 4x weak to Ice.

I see no point in Jolly Lucario. While it does outspeed every Mamoswine, even Jolly ones, it means you miss some KOs.

That Gyarados...while it could work, do consider a Dragon Dance Gyara:

Gyarados@Life Orb
Adamant
72 HP / 252 Atk / 184 Speed
Waterfall
Bite / Earthquake
Stone Edge / Ice Fang
Dragon Dance

Bite absolutely murders Starmie or any other Psychic-type, while Stone Edge still hits Salamence but also hits Gyarados much harder then Ice Fang. Ice Fang is an option to deal with Salamence and OHKOs non-Yache Chomp after 1 Dragon Dance.

That SpecsMence is fine, and yes Hydro Pump is for Heatran, the only Pokemon resisting the Dragon + Fire combo. HP Ground is an option over Hydro Pump, since it does hit Heatran harder and is more accurate then Hydro Pump. It also hits one of the set's counters, Empoleon super effectively.


That Gengar set, just eww... Focus Blast >> Energy Ball, or else Steel types go "OLOL" at you. Thunderbolt >> Destiny Bond, to hammer Water-types. Do consider Wide Lens or Life Orb, to boost the accuracy of Hypnosis and Focus Blast if you're adding it. Also, Focus Punch on Gengar is awful this gen, you're much better off with Focus Blast.

Blissey wants Calm with 252 Def / 80 SpA / 176 SpD to special wall effectively this gen. Also, do consider a status absorber to free up that slot of Aromatherapy to put something to hit Gengar, someone Bliss is supposed to wall. RestTalk Snorlax is an excellent Status Absorber and with Crunch, it can deal with Gengar and Mismagius, although having Bliss and Snorlax on the same team is redundant, so you should choose one.


Snorlax@Leftovers
Thick Fat
Careful
252 HP / 252 SpD / 4 Atk
Crunch
Body Slam
Rest
Sleep Talk

This indeed counters Heatran, if you thought otherwise. Body Slam would eventually beat down Heatran while Snorlax could laugh at all its attacks and stall it out with Rest + Sleep Talk.

 

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Swampert@ Leftovers


252 HP/252 Def/ 240 HP / 216 Def / 52 SpA


Impish Nature


- Earthquake


- Avalanche


- Roar/ Hydro Pump


- Stealth Rock / Hydro Pump


*​

Replace one of the bottom 2 moves for Hydro Pump. Also, go with Dancing Mence's EV spread here.

Changes Made:​

Lucario @ Life Orb


252 Atk /252 Speed/ 4 HP


Jolly Nature


- Crunch


- Sword Dance


- Extreme Speed


- Close Combat


* My Lucario also has HP Ice.​

Changes Made:​

Gyarados @ Choice Scarf


252 Attack /252 Speed


Adamant Nature


- Earthquake


- Ice Fang


- Stone Edge Bite


- Waterful


* I've been switching this around with a Scarfed Heracross..​

This needs work. Either go with Bite>>> Stone Edge here, or scrap the whole set and go DD Gyara.

Changes Made:​

Salamence @ Choice Specs


252 Sp.Atk /252 Speed


Modest Nature


- Draco Meteor


- Dragon Pulse


- Fire Blast


- Hydro Pump/ HP Ground


* Is Hydro Pump just for Heatran?.​

HP Ground hits Heatran harder.

Changes Made:​

Gengar @ Focus Sash


252 Sp.Atk /252 Speed


Timid Nature


- Shadow Ball


- Energy Ball


- Hypnosis


- Destiny Bond


* I'm thinking of using a Focus Punch, Hypnosis, Shadow Ball, Destiny Bond/Substitute set.


Does nothing for your team, replace it with this:

Snorlax@ Leftovers
Careful Nature
Thick Fat
252 hp/ 252 sp. def/ 4 atk
Return/ Body Slam
Crunch
Sleep Talk
Rest​

Changes Made:​

Blissey @ Leftovers


252 Def/ 176 Sp.Def/ 80 Sp.Atk


Calm Nature


- Aromatherapy


- Softboiled


- Thunder Wave


- Seismic Toss​

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Since mixape with SE runs through this team, you need a mixape counter:

Cresselia@ Leftovers
Bold Nature
252 HP/108 Def/ 148 Sp. Def.

Psychic
Charge Beam
Reflect
Moonlight

works much better and stops mixape.​

Changes Made:


- Nature changed to calm - Evs changed to 252 Def/ 176 Sp.Def/ 80 Sp.Atk​

Comments in bold. Your current team is mixape weak. Put the cress i recommeneded in there as a counter.

 

[Dark Azelf]

Comments in bold. Your current team is mixape weak. Put the cress i recommeneded in there as a counter.

Yeah, Lax and Bliss on the same team is beyond redundant.

I also wouldnt say he's that mixape weak, Gyara can take anything and outspeed it with Scarf , Gar can take predicted grass Knots, and so can Mence.

Basically beaten with prediction.


As for Gengar you could scarf that and make Gyara LO DD, that way you can revenge more stuff.

 

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Blissey @ Leftovers
252 Def/ 176 Sp.Def/ 80 Sp.Atk
Calm Nature
- Aromatherapy
- Softboiled
- Thunder Wave
- Seismic Toss​

What are the Sp.Atk EV's for?
You have Seismic Toss for damage, thats not a special move is it?​

 

[Espy Psyche]

My guess? It had Ice Beam or Flamethrower at some point, and the SAtk EVs were for those special moves.

 

[Postman]

Changed Swamperts Avalanche to Ice beam and I changed Gyarados's item from Choice Scarf to Life Orb.
Gengar also lost Energy Ball, Hypnosis, and item Life Orb for Thunderbolt, Focus Blast and Choice Scarf.
Hidden Power Ground will take Hydro Pumps place on Salamence for better damage on Heatran.

Actually Im going to run Blizzard on Swampert.

 

[ThePlaya]

Well, I would suggest running modest on Gengar if your running Choice Scarf.

 

[sims796]

If you're gonna run Blizzard, prepare to miss often.

 

[ThePlaya]

Yeah, more often than my Tyranitar missing with Stone Edge :P