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Is there too many Pokemon?

T The Manager

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    I know there's threads asking if Game Freaks losing ideas and all that but I couldn't find anything like this. I believe GameFreak is creating new Gens a little too fast. I'm not looking forward to the next gen because there's already too many Pokemon to keep up with now. Do you guys believe they should continue to create new Pokemon or stop with the creations of Pokemon and focus more on the games creations itself?

    I think if they focus on the games themselves mixing all the Pokemon together then they could very easily make a sequel. If you really think about it, they could explain the growth of Pokemon as an existence while explaining everything through the games. There's so many holes we can't fill to completely understand Pokemon, so I think it would be cool if they could make a sequel explaining it. They could re-use a region like Hoenn for example giving you a new gaming experience instead of the same old games components.
     

    LilyAnn

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    Honestly, at this point I would love to see more changes to the series then new pokemon. We already have 700+ so it's about time they change things. Pokemon is by far one of the slowest franchises. So maybe if they give that a break they can go deeper into the series.
     
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    As long as the designs are good I don't mind if there are 700 or 7000 Pokemon. The world we live in has millions of animal/plant species.

    But it's kind of difficult to catch up especially if you've missed a gen. If someone asked me about some of the Gen 5 Pokemon, I'd have to look them up.
    This new gen has only 69 Pokemon I think.
     
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    As long as the designs are good I don't mind if there are 700 or 7000 Pokemon. The world we live in has millions of animal/plant species.

    Completely agree with this ^, along as they keep putting out original and thoughtful designs then i'm happy :)
     

    T The Manager

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    Honestly, at this point I would love to see more changes to the series then new pokemon. We already have 700+ so it's about time they change things. Pokemon is by far one of the slowest franchises. So maybe if they give that a break they can go deeper into the series.

    That's exactly what I think

    As much as I agree with Banz I gotta say I disagree. I think they need to slow down on the creating part but still continue to create them for a later game, at least until they go deeper into the series. Pokemon are animals with supernatural powers, but I don't believe we need to have every animal species included in Pokemon. It would be nice to have them all if you could keep up with them, but that would be extremely difficult.
     

    ShieldWolf27

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    I kept up with the first three gens. I'm still catching up on the 4th and 5th generations. No 3DS so I'm not even attempting the new gen. Anymore and I'm REALLY going to be lost.
     
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    I like the addition of more Pokemon, as it refreshes the whole "catch 'em all" experience. They just need to space out the new Pokemon additions so people have time to get acquainted with the Pokemon. I still wasn't thoroughly familiar with Unova Pokemon by the time X and Y came out.
     

    Pinkie-Dawn

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    Yes, and it's a good thing. We need more Pokémon to diversify gym leader/Elite Four rosters, so GF wouldn't be forced to have certain type specialists share each other's signature Pokémon.
     
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    There are indeed too many Pokémon, but I don't mind. d: There are millions of different animals in the our world (with scientists discovering new ones all the time), so I feel that Pokémon should be the same. Pokémon aren't animals, yes, but they are based on them, aren't they? It does become harder to complete PokéDexes once new Pokémon are introduced, but this is not mandatory—it's totally up to you if you want to complete your PokéDex or not. Me, I really don't care about it. I used to be obsessed with finishing the PokéDex five to six years ago, but now, not anymore. xD"
     
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    No and Yes

    While it's getting there to be (to many) it has not quite reached that level yet.

    Yes there are to many horrible pokemon designs. Out of your 700 I've found roughly 174 workable designs and I've had to augment the designs on about 15 to make them doable.

    Rules to consider when making a pokemon.
    1. Is it more than just a big circle/oval with arms/legs/wings?
    2. Must have a mode of transportation be it legs/fins/wings/slides on belly. Staryu for example does indeed pass rule 1, but fails to meet this standard, at least on a logical bases. There simply must be a way for it to move without having some sort of motion come out of nowhere. Also things do not float, unless they're a ghost pokemon.
    3. Can you fit the organs necessary to supply a sizable creature into that pokemon?
    4. How does it reproduce? Only god knows how grimer or muk reproduce or for that matter at least 100 other pokemon.

    Personally I think about 500 would be more than enough pokemon and anything over 1200 would be to many.
     

    Christopher

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    No and Yes

    While it's getting there to be (to many) it has not quite reached that level yet.

    Yes there are to many horrible pokemon designs. Out of your 700 I've found roughly 174 workable designs and I've had to augment the designs on about 15 to make them doable.

    Rules to consider when making a pokemon.
    1. Is it more than just a big circle/oval with arms/legs/wings?
    2. Must have a mode of transportation be it legs/fins/wings/slides on belly. Staryu for example does indeed pass rule 1, but fails to meet this standard, at least on a logical bases. There simply must be a way for it to move without having some sort of motion come out of nowhere. Also things do not float, unless they're a ghost pokemon.
    3. Can you fit the organs necessary to supply a sizable creature into that pokemon?
    4. How does it reproduce? Only god knows how grimer or muk reproduce or for that matter at least 100 other pokemon.

    Personally I think about 500 would be more than enough pokemon and anything over 1200 would be to many.

    Varus used reason.
    It does not effect Pokemon
    Varus Used Logic.
    It does not effect Pokemon

    Seriously though, why read so far into this, if you do there's many more question and impossibilities like. How do they fit inside a Pokeball? How can the breath fire/generate electricity.How does a pokeball with a pokemon in it get turned into data and sent to a PC when in the middle of no where? If you start poking hole the whole thing falls apart, Pokemon are creature of fantasy & whimsy and are in no way ruled by the laws of physiology or physics of Earth. In short accept the magic you muggle. :D

    To answer the topic. If some are good than more is better.
     
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    I'm also content with having the same amount of Pokemon, but in new games. I like what they did with X/Y, introducing only a handful of new Pokemon instead of hundreds, but bringing back more of the old. I know they did that to emphasize the Megas more, but personally, I thought it was nice seeing more old faces than learning about the new.

    I like seeing new Pokemon every now and then too, but it wasn't so much that I felt overwhelmed.
     

    Treecko

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    I think new Pokemon makes a game more exciting so I'd like to see them add more each generation. It's awesome running into Pokemon you've never seen before and catching all of the new Pokemon you can. That's what makes the games great. The story does too, but it's not as exciting without the new Pokemon. So I don't mind them adding new Pokemon each generation. Though if only half of them are good and there's only 60 or 70 ,then I'd be a bit disappointed. Though Gen VI is proof that even if there's a fewer amount of Pokemon than usual, as long as there's good quality Pokemon, then it's fine. I think a lot of the Gen VI Pokemon are some of the best in a while despite there only being about 70 of them.
     

    Colress Machine

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    I don't really agree that there are too many Pokémon but I wouldn't mind them slowing down and focusing on the regions themselves to make the actual Pokémon world feel more real. There are millions of animal species in the world so 700 isn't that insane to me. I'm not saying that I think GameFreak will make millions of Pokémon though haha. I think introducing new Pokémon keeps the franchise fresh and I enjoy learning about all the new ones!
     

    Patrick

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    I feel like there's too many in one area, perhaps. I'm mostly talking about Pokemon Y, here. Overall, I really don't care. If I ignore a generation or two, nobody's hurt by it. I have never run into a person who said "why don't you draw Emolga?" or "Why didn't you play Pokemon Black/White". I feel like the amount of Pokemon is arbitrary; if the Pokemon are important to you, you'll make them important, rather by game usage or fan art or whatever.

    I'd agree that some of the X/Y designs have been the best I've seen since Sapphire. I didn't feel like I was missing anything between then and now. Complicated doesn't mean better, it just means tedious.
     

    Synerjee

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    I don't think there can ever be too many Pokemon if the designs are well thought and creative. For me, more Pokemon means more to discover, to capture and to collect, adding to the fun of filling up the Pokedex etc. I don't think GF will stop making new Pokemon anytime soon...or even if they do, only for the time being while they think up of new designs or build up on the regions and the plots of the games like what others have previously said, for instance.
     
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    Do you guys believe they should continue to create new Pokemon or stop with the creations of Pokemon and focus more on the games creations itself?
    Yes. I've been wishing this ever since gen 3, but gen 5 did surprise me positively though. Some really great designs sprung up from gen 5's "let's make a pokédex with no foreign pokémon" because they had to make them interesting enough to stand on their own.

    The Kalos pokémon, I only knew a few names of. Some of them look okay but some are obscure... lugg something? That one is plain scary, haha.

    Rules to consider when making a pokemon.
    I was about to reply, but Christopher summarized it so well already :) While it is interesting and fun to theorize about how pokémon work in a realistic sense, in some discussions we might have to accept defeat to "poké-logic". Or be even more creative! Maybe pokémon's inner organs don't work the same as human/animal organs? Maybe some plant pokémon don't have to eat, just soak up sun and water? Could explain why Bellsprout pretty much is a thin twig with roots and leaves.

    All in all, I have stopped hating on new pokémon. While I think many designs could have been done better - and more different from existing ones, such as all the electric rodents which I am really tired of now - there are still some really great new ones in every generation.

    But we saw in Kalos much fewer new pokémon than ever before. This might be a sign that the rate at which new pokémon will be introduced from now on will slow down and eventually stop. It's a good time to do so at, but I really hope they continue releasing more new games. More regions, based on interesting parts of our own world, and better plot and deeper characters. So far it seems to have been moving in the right direction, if you look from gen 1 to gen 6 in succession. Pokémon isn't dead :)
     

    Sonatron

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    My ideology when it comes to Pokémon is "The more the merrier". Like others have said, as long as they have cool designs I have no problem with there being tonnes of Pocket Monsters crawling around XD
     
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    Varus used reason.
    It does not effect Pokemon
    Varus Used Logic.
    It does not effect Pokemon

    Seriously though, why read so far into this, if you do there's many more question and impossibilities like. How do they fit inside a Pokeball? How can the breath fire/generate electricity.How does a pokeball with a pokemon in it get turned into data and sent to a PC when in the middle of no where? If you start poking hole the whole thing falls apart, Pokemon are creature of fantasy & whimsy and are in no way ruled by the laws of physiology or physics of Earth. In short accept the magic you muggle. :D

    To answer the topic. If some are good than more is better.

    And out of the 700 pokemon how many would you call good?
     

    T The Manager

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    ^ a handfull but not a majority. I believe a lot of Pokemon have the potential to have a good design, but they just don't meet the requirements. But this is opinion based tho, I'm in no way attacking someones opinion or change them. When I look at lots of the Pokmon something is either missing or something doesn't seem right, and not just he new Pokemon. Every gen has their bads. Ex. Gen 1. Jynx, Voltorb, Grimer, and Magnemite are all terrible designs imo and I think Magnezone in Gen IV is even worse haha.

    When it comes to the ideals in the games creations and the regions I would love to see the regions completely redone. Have the same layout but a different design, but you still know Hoenn is Hoenn, Johto is Johto, Sinnoh is Sinnoh, etc and hell I wouldn't mind if they made really detailed new regions.

    I wouldn't be too happy if they did this and just threw a bunch of Pokemon in one area and call it good tho. I think they need to go deeper in this by placing MORE Pokemon through-ought the region but only based on it's culture or lifestyle. Take the Kanto region for example. Why Pidgey and Rattata as the only primary Pokemon starting route Pokemon? Why not add something more exciting rather than obvious and take the player by surprise when they see a newly added Pokemon in that area or something that's out of the ordinary, compared to what we're used to.

    And another big thing I would like them to focus on more than creating more Pokemon is the storyline. Don't get me wrong, the games are great with fantastic plots but I feel they still don't tell us enough to grasp whats really going on, I wanna know the Pokemon world inside out, sounds kinda silly but hey lol. But I wouldn't mind if they released a group of Pokemon here and there. At least give us some time to get comfortable with the new Pokemon before adding more.
     
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