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14Henderson7

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  • Poison types. Yeah. Help?

    Drapion (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Battle Armor
    EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SDef
    Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
    - Toxic Spikes
    - Whirlwind
    - Crunch
    - Earthquake

    Toxicroak (M) @ Expert Belt
    Trait: Poison Touch
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Swords Dance
    - Stone Edge
    - Brick Break
    - Sucker Punch

    Crobat (M) @ Black Sludge
    Trait: Inner Focus
    EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 Spd
    Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
    - Brave Bird
    - Taunt
    - Roost
    - Super Fang

    Nidoking (M) @ Life Orb
    Trait: Sheer Force
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
    Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
    - Earth Power
    - Ice Beam
    - Thunderbolt
    - Fire Blast

    Gengar (M) @ Choice Specs
    Trait: Levitate
    EVs: 4 Def / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Shadow Ball
    - Thunderbolt
    - Focus Blast
    - Hidden Power [Ice]

    Scolipede (M) @ Focus Sash
    Trait: Swarm
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
    Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
    - Protect
    - Megahorn
    - Rock Slide
    - Earthquake
     
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    PlatinumDude

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  • Drapion: Use Battle Armor as the ability (you're not attacking with it and Battle Armor is best suited for defensive/supporting sets). Have it hold Leftovers of Black Sludge

    Poison Touch is gimmicky with Toxicroak. To help against rain teams, use Dry Skin instead. You can also use Ice Punch instead of Stone Edge for Gliscor and Landorus.

    Crobat is more of a stall breaker, so Flying Gem has no use on it unless you're using Acrobatics:
    -Brave Bird
    -Taunt
    -Roost
    -Super Fang/Toxic/U-turn
    Nature: Jolly
    EVs: 252 HP/4 Def/252 Spe
    Item: Black Sludge/Leftovers

    Gengar is too fast for Choice Scarf. How about you try this out, instead?:
    -Substitute
    -Disable/Pain Split
    -Shadow Ball
    -Focus Blast
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Leftovers/Life Orb

    TBH, Venusaur and Victreebel are useless unless they're in sunlight, which can be set up by Ninetales. In one slot, you can use Roserade to set up Spikes:

    Spiker:
    -Spikes
    -Giga Drain/Grass Knot
    -Hidden Power (Fire/Ice)
    -Stun Spore/Leech Seed/Rest
    Nature: Calm
    EVs: 252 HP/120 Def/136 SDef
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Natural Cure

    You can also have Nidoking as an all out attacker:
    -Earth Power
    -Ice Beam
    -Thunderbolt
    -Flamethrower/Fire Blast/Sludge Wave
    Nature: Modest/Timid
    EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Life Orb/Choice Specs/Choice Scarf
    Ability: Sheer Force
     

    PlatinumDude

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  • Scolipede is too weak offensively, unless it runs Swords Dance instead of Protect. That, or it can serve as a Spiker:
    -Swords Dance
    -Megahorn
    -Earthquake
    -Rock Slide
    Nature: Jolly
    EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
    Item: Life Orb
    Ability: Swarm

    Or you can use it as a Spiker:
    -Spikes
    -Toxic Spikes (this is only if Drapion can't get them up on time)
    -Megahorn
    -Earthquake/Rock Slide
    Nature: Jolly
    EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
    Item: Focus Sash
    Ability: Swarm

    As I said before, use SubSplit or SubDisable Gengar. They're more effective than Choice Specs and Gengar can afford 2 moveslots for offensive moves (since Shadow Ball and Focus Blast have perfect coverage). SubSplit Gengar allows it to beat Blissey 1 on 1, while SubDisable can mess up opponents that have only 1 move that can hit Gengar (like Conkeldurr).

    Also, like I mentioned use Dry Skin on Toxicroak. I forgot to mention this, but Poison Touch doesn't serve much use when 2 layers of Toxic Spikes are up.
     

    Shiny Sheimi

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  • I personally don't think you should pick Scolipede or Toxicroak. Toxicroak can be good when used with a rainy strategy but unless you know you can set him up with that then I wouldn't go for it. Giving him Rain Dance isn't any good either because he's not really likely to survive long enough. Scolipede, in my opinion, is generally bad.

    If I was putting together a Poison team, I'd go for Gengar, Drapion, Venusaur, Venomoth, Crobat and Tentacruel, but that's just me. Tentacruel does well as a Special defensive with Barrier, provided you can ensure he doesn't get hit by too many physical moves. Venusaur, obviously, is generally good. Venomoth can run Quiver Dance, which again has a risk of physical weakness, but I think it's worth it as long as you can back some of your other more Defensive Pokémon up with some extra Def EVs or Defense increasing for the situation. Crobat isn't as good as it seems, but I do think he has potential with Acrobatics and Flight Gem, along with some other stuff you could throw in there.
     

    Webdemon

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  • My only gripe with Poison oriented teams is that they all share a similar weakness...Your objective is to find a way to negate it completely or at least try to weaken it's effect on you.

    Steel types will completely nail with as they are immune to Poison attacks/status effects. So you could go for Pokemon who can use Fire/fighting/ground type moves. (Good move on Toxicroak.)

    Another thing you should worry about....Psychic and ground types...Most Psychic types like Alakazam (specifically with Magic Guard) are pretty much acting steel type because of the ability Magic Guard. They will also be generally faster them most poison types save for Gengar. Certain ground types will decimate your ability to poison them on the spot (I.E Excadrill, The Nido family). Some will be fast enough to land a hit before they do (Krookodile is amazinlgly fast).

    Consider all the elements you will go up against when you want to fight using poison type Pokemon.

    Another type that ever monotype will and must face that I think you'll have a hard time taking out....Dragons...Dragons are tough enough to laugh off you'r poison effect and they are pretty much immune to it thanks to the move safeguard. So pack some dragon and or ice moves to take care of it.

    Thanks all I have to say in the matter! Best of luck!
     
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    First of all, for your leads, I would either choose crobat or gengar over drapion.

    Crobat's immunity from flinches makes it an expert for dealing against fake out leads, most notably infernape and meinshao, and with 130 base speed it will have no trouble outspeeding either of them and 2hitkoing (1hitKO if they aren't holding focus sash).

    Aside from that, I think you need some more ground-resistance. I'd fit Weezing in your team (maybe in place of toxicroak or scolipede). It has access to flamethrower, dealing with any steel that might get in your way, send out will-o-wisp to cripple your opponents and haze to erase stat boosts.

    @Webdemon: I've encountered an absolute pro who uses a mono-poison team. They are actually quite difficult to deal with once used correctly. Pyschic teams are a definitive threat, however. Alakazam is faster than Gengar by 10 points, so that is not a counter, this guy made a good move in including Drapion on the team, however.
     
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