Suggestion: Official Action Replay (DS) Code Thread...

[Shadow]

You forget that Serebii and Bulbagarden both do not have ARDS codes. And aren't they pretty much the all-in-one spot(s) for Pokemon?

What's your point here? I said PC was not the all-in-one site for Pokémon, which is why we don't need the codes and then you say the all-in-one sites don't have the codes. We aren't an all-in-one site, so we definitely don't need what the all-in-one sites don't feel the need to post.

I can also see users submitting cheats codes and people posting saying they don't work/etc as discussion. Discussion will deteriorate over time, but you forget that there are people who make ARDS codes from scratch. That also creates discussion because new ARDS codes are made.

As was said in the original post, there was an Action Replay thread but it was eventually locked due to it "going nowhere."

The time for "creating" codes is over and done with by the time the games are on the shelves. Not to mention, there are various sites with the purpose of such things; such discussions would be better to stay there given the average PC member, honestly.

And if there's that many stickies for one generation of Pokemon games, why not combine a couple? Unless all of them are completely unrelated, of course, but I doubt it.

That is already done. The thing is, you don't want more than 1-4 stickies per forum. There is already enough and similar things are already cut down as much as possible.

Also, if there were an ARDS sticky thread, wouldn't that cut down the clutter of "how dus ah get teh shinyz charizardzz??? i no i need a ards thang, but.."? And what do you mean "Other" sticky threads? Are there different types?

Other sticky threads are the sticky threads that are already there. Simple Question (or Quick Question and Answer as it is now) is already supposed to eliminate "how i get teh shinny muutoos?!?"

Does it? Not completely. A stickied archive of Action Replay codes would do no better. People would still make threads to ask how to copy/paste simple codes into their Action Replay.

 

[Melody]

Perhaps not a thread but a Subforum, Blog or Social Group.

This is why I suggested running a Social Group or a Blog of codes posted up. People would just go to the blog or social group to ask for codes, and we could probably moderate it a lot easier without asking for a thread.

My only other idea is creating a subforum specifically for cheat codes, and appointing several moderators for that. We might as well, since it'd cut back on the spam by giving people a place to post about them, discuss them, and request them.

It's true that one thread is likely to generate spam, but what if we allowed certain trustworthy members to start up their own code shops? We could create an entire subforum, moderate it so that new posts are approved by the mods and it wouldn't be full of spam.

I could easily see a few shops being opened within a subforum with some obvious rules like:

• 
  No creating forged event pokemon
• All pokesav generated pokemon codes posted on PC must have SOME indication that it was PokeSav Generated like a certain ID number. for example 12345, 11111, 00000, or any other attribute the mods agree on
• You cannot trade the generated pokemon to anyone who isn't aware that it is hacked. All trading of hacked pokemon must be arranged privately.
• You must have xxx Posts and no infractions or warnings for trading in hacked pokemon, in order to be considered for being allowed to run a code shop.
• You must post requests in the designated sticky thread for requests or an approved shop thread.
• You code shop thread must meet certain requirements (format template anyone?), as set forth by the selected moderators of the section and other staff members.

Personally, I think that with the appropriate rules and moderation in place, we could think about allowing AR codes to be posted here. I personally don't think it's fair to people who don't mind hacked pokemon so much to not be allowed to get them somehow, but I also think it's not fair for the people who don't like hacks, to not be able to tell if something is hacked. That being said, as long as we keep a handle on what sort of codes we allow to be posted, there should be no problem.

 

[Åzurε]

I support this one-hundred-percent. It seems incredible to me that a forum with an active ROM hacking area wouldn't allow Action Replay.

Google is a valid point. Most codes will likely come off Google. But, if we begin allowing Action Replay threads, eventually Pokemon specialists could wheedle their way in here and we could come up with something new. Perhaps we even have some users like this already...

With Heart Gold and Soul Silver coming up, some of us could work on opening up some new avenues in that realm, and if nothing else it could be a good compilation of useful codes, even with restrictions on the type of code. I suggest a either a new section or a subsection of General Games, or Hacking, with a compilation thread and a Q&A thread.

Some of the on-site trade setups and battles could get dependent on a person's honesty, though. I personally would alert others before going on Wi-Fi, but I'm not everyone... Extra moderation is more than likely a good idea.

 

[Melody]

I happen to agree. It doesn't seem quite fair that we allow ROM hacking, and not AR codes.

In Pre-battle, honestly the opponent's team can be 'checked' by going into trade mode via wifi, and scoping the opponent's team out. Then straight to battle, no changes to your team allowed. This isn't a hard thing to do really, and it keeps n00bs from slipping in that Lv100 Shiny Arceus with perfect 31/31/31/31/31/31 IVs and 999/999/999/999/999/999 stats to steamroll your team with.

As far as trading goes, as long as no one successfully manages to to pass off codes that produce a perfectly legitimate looking pokemon, then the code forum would indeed be well moderated.

In all honesty, I've seen legal pokemon built with pokesav, Pokemon with perfectly legal movesets, stats, randomized IVs, nice and legal EV spreads, with a supporting nature. You really only have to look up the legal 'limits' for each pokemon and build to those parameters.

It's all a matter of defining what a 'Legal ____ hack' (blank optional) is. There are actually legality checkers for *.pkmn files which ensures that they aren't unbelievable and unfair.

 

[Shadow]

I happen to agree. It doesn't seem quite fair that we allow ROM hacking, and not AR codes.

ROM hacking is not the same as AR.

You use an AR to cheat. You hack ROMs to make a new game.

ROM hack Pokémon cannot be used on Wi-Fi or anything else. AR ones can.

AR is finding single line codes to input to the game's RAM and alter something happening now. ROM hacking is changing the internal game data of the game into something different, permanently. ROM hacking allows the change of maps, scripts, text, music, and almost every bit of data in the game; AR does not.

AR codes eventually are all found and there's nothing more to do but use them. ROM hacks are near-infinite as everyone has different ideas and creations. Saying AR and ROM hacks are the same thing is like saying tracing and other artwork is the same.

 

[Spinor]

Let me end this foolish suffering

Spoiler:

Sticky: Looking for AR Codes?

Post: There are new awesome things that help you out. They are Google and PokeSav.

Use PokeSav to cheat your game! If you can't figure it out on PokeSav then use Google! Its that simple!

</fools>

 

[Haza]

You cant find all codes on one site and thats the point. Its inconvenient when you're trying to make things more convenient.

 

[ruby]

This thread baffles me, in one reply somebody tell me why there can't be a simple thread for code submission.

 

[Spinor]

This thread baffles me, in one reply somebody tell me why there can't be a simple thread for code submission.

I'll give many reasons in one reply indeed.

• Many people don't like game hackers
• The threads really DON'T get anywhere after a while
• A big list of codes gets disorganized
• A very big list of codes can take hundreds of Kilobytes and even the Megabytes range
• Staff simply doesn't give about this stuff when Member X is flaming Member Y while Member Z is spamming in OC
• We have GOOGLE
• We have POKESAV
• 90% of posters will be under 10 asking for a code to get Shiny Arceus then how to even use the damn AR.
• And if the poor tards can't use Google then they probably don't deserve the codes

Besides, AR Hacking and ROM Hacking are two completely different methods. AR Hacking edits SAVE FILES of the games. ROM Hacking edits the FUNCTIONS and DATA of the game. This explains why you can't make trees purple with your AR.

 

[Haza]

Every thread eventually ends up going no where or gets abandoned after a while unless its stickied.

 

[ruby]

I'll give many reasons in one reply indeed.

• Many people don't like game hackers
• The threads really DON'T get anywhere after a while
• A big list of codes gets disorganized
• A very big list of codes can take hundreds of Kilobytes and even the Megabytes range
• Staff simply doesn't give about this stuff when Member X is flaming Member Y while Member Z is spamming in OC
• We have GOOGLE
• We have POKESAV
• 90% of posters will be under 10 asking for a code to get Shiny Arceus then how to even use the damn AR.
• And if the poor tards can't use Google then they probably don't deserve the codes

Besides, AR Hacking and ROM Hacking are two completely different methods. AR Hacking edits SAVE FILES of the games. ROM Hacking edits the FUNCTIONS and DATA of the game. This explains why you can't make trees purple with your AR.

I don't see any of those as a problem. :|

• Many people don't like people who AR? Many people don't like rom hackers.
• If it dies then it dies, big whoop?
• Does it need organisation? People can just look through, or in-fact search.
• The server has more than enough space. o.o'
• I don't see what spamming in OC has to do with this, correct me if I've misread.
• Google you can't submit codes.
• Pokesav I'm guessing only edits saves.
• Who cares? The same thing happens in every section of the forum.
  You don't have to reply, not that it's a terrible effort to do so.
• Again, you're forgetting the code makers.

And I've seen that all throughout this thread, people are completely ignoring the fact that someone has to make these codes in the first place.
I've made plenty of cheats for R/S/E that I haven't seen anywhere else on the web so don't you go saying that there's none to submit.

 

[processr]

Pokesav I'm guessing only edits saves.

Not quite, but it does have a function that allows one to create codes (IIRC - someone correct me if I'm wrong) that edit things in the save, as opposed to creating a whole new save file. So you could, say, make a code that gives you 99 of your first item. This could then be posted in this proposed code thread, and others can use it. So yeah, Pokesav can actually support the case for a thread. *shrug*

 

[ruby]

Can we get some sort of conclusion on this?

 

[THIRTY-SIX]

My guess is that the trade area may become filled with action reply pokemon, alot of members don't like those. Also the list will be boring to maintain.

 

[Circuit]

I use action replay, and yes, I look up codes a lot. Most of the time I find what I need (English version) right away, but changed, so I look a bit more and find what I need. There really is no need for this thread even though I am not against AR. You can find what you need over the internet, and if you can't find it on other sites, what's to say you'll definitely find it here? It may not even exist. And just so you know, I don't plan to use hacked Pokemon EVER on Wi-Fi. So, as you can see, there really is no need for this thread.

 

[Mew~]

Well, i think this would be a great idea... i use action replay codes (only when ive completed games) so i would sure help out with the thread... I can see the thread going somewhere if you ask me... and if it doesnt, so what?

I would like to see an action replay code thread :)

Couldnt we like vote it or somthing? or wont the mods let us?

 

[PokemonLeagueChamp]

Honestly in this case, you might as well create a single thread that links to resources that people need - game codes, FAQs, etc. We're not an all-on-one stop, but we might as well help those who need it, discussion forum or not.

Also, another thing: those comparing ROM hacking to game codes lose the point. Technically it is editing a ROM, but the uses at PC are typically are for creative purposes - often, creating "new" games. Apophenia was on the mark. (And with that, can we stop debating it? It's actually quite irrelevant to the thread.)

I'm thinking a stickied thread that has codes confirmed to work.

The real difference between AR and ROMs? ROMs are technically ILLEGAL. AR is simply considered "improper, nooby method of obtaining strong Pokemon". Notice the important difference?

 

[øbliteration]

AR and ROMs are so different. sorry. NOT the same thing. The Emulation section, like it or not, is the most active place here on PC.

Anyway...

A single sticky in DPPt, HG/SS, etc., that consists of Action Replay codes is something I'd like to see. Not a whole section, but a thread in every section. Doesn't clutter anything up (isn't the whole point of a forum conversation? cluttering up a forum doesn't make sense to me) and would be pretty darn useful.

 

[Haza]

Oh really? Thank you but before I do so, what would the appropriate thread section be?

 

[Mew~]

Oh really? Thank you but before I do so, what would the appropriate thread section be?

Depends what game.... i guess maybe... an action replay thread for the dppt thread and hg/ss thread? But i cant be suuurrreee but i think anthony la is being sarcastic....