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Sigh. I'm going to touch on this briefly and go eat pizza, because I'm tired of seeing this topic pop up all over the place. You have a right to defend yourself. I'm not worshipping the American forefathers/framers, but they were onto something when it came to government and liberty. Don't even think about pointing at Japan if you're anti-gun. You play your Japan and I raise you one United Kingdom. No guns, yet the violent crime rate is at the American level. Not violent gun crime. Violent overall crime.
Let's say, for the sake of argument, all firearms are banned. No one can obtain a gun through legal channels. Who is likelier to have a gun in this scenario: Criminals or Innocents? Who is likelier to follow laws: The people that adhere to them and go about their day-to-day like proper, responsible citizens, or the people who are defined by how much time they devote to breaking said laws? Just some food for thought.
I myself prefer to carry concealed. I'm on some Batman stuff, and don't like (potential) adversaries to see my hand before I'm ready to play it. If I can conceal it, I'm going to. Open carrying detracts from my "young professional" image. Makes me look rather crass, I find. In fact, I'd prefer to settle disputes the old fashioned way. First with diplomacy, then with fists if need be. This coming from someone on the smaller scale size-wise.
I find it quaint that people think you shouldn't have a right to defend yourself. I am quick to remind them that bullets fly faster than Crown Vics (police vehicles).
I explicitly used my own country as a fine example of somewhere that does a lot better without guns; and that's your primary example of somewhere where it doesn't work. If you take a wee gander over at my first post where I spewed out everything, you'd soon notice that the amount of lives lost over here, even when scaled up to be GREATER than your population at the time, were still significantly less than the US, with almost FOUR TIMES as many deaths in the US per person. If you're feeling pedantic and reckon Northern Ireland/Scotland have it worse, they don't, actually. I took the most disadvantageous example to my case and it still highlighted just how much of a positive difference a lack of guns makes. I think preventing even one family from being a broken family is a positive move, never mind a few thousand of them.
Please cite evidence and source it to back up your case on the violence front. I would argue that a violent crime is much better than a murder, but I don't even see any proper studies or statistics from a decent source from you to look at first.
As for the people most likely to use guns... anyone who has them and has been backed into a corner. Criminality is not a black/white thing, unlike the children's movies that have the "good guys" and the "bad guys." Anyone can be a murderer, and I can tell you with some certainty that by giving seemingly ordinary people guns, any one of them can have a bad turn that leads them to using it for killing themselves/other people. I myself could not deny the possibility that I could be driven mad and I could build up and take out a vendetta on other people, and to be able to openly carry guns around would certainly make it easier to reach the point where I actually had the means to do it, if I were driven to insanity. I'd hope that I would never reach that point, but nobody knows what life has in store. Scary thought, really.
At the last bit - Is wielding a gun really necessary to compensate for your small stature? Is your country truly that brutish that you need a gun for day to day activities? My local city is one of the more "rough" cities in the UK and yet I've been perfectly fine going there and heading around. I haven't once had a situation where I'd have had any benefit in carrying a gun around. I feel a lot better knowing that the people I'm walking around with almost certainly are not carrying a gun around. I feel confident that if someone were to attack me with a knife, I'd have a better chance of getting away alive than if they were allowed to use a gun.
-If there was much point the difference between openly/secretly having guns on you, I'd genuinely say something about this. There really isn't much difference, but the fact they can be openly carried shows how severe the situation is. 8D