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PokéCommunity Manaphy Suspect Test
NOTE: You need to read the whole thread before posting.
Introduction
The very appearance of this thread probably surprises a lot of you. Why are we running our own suspect test for Manaphy? Simply put, the Smogon suspect test is taking forever. Not only that, but policy is completely unpredictable seeing as it has been changed on the fly after both Stage 3-1 and Stage 3-2. Meanwhile, Manaphy is being left out of standard with two OU majorities (the more recent one being a super majority), and D_A and I are beginning to wonder when Smogon will actually end up concluding its suspect test. While I wanted to just let Manaphy into OU as the voters had determined, a test without Garchomp just in case it significantly hindered Manaphy is the safe choice, so D_A and I decided to do that.
Testing Process and Policies
The most important aspect of this test is that any conclusive result on Smogon overrules the results of our test. In other words, if we vote Manaphy to be Uber and Smogon unbans it, Manaphy will become OU on PokéCommunity as well. Why? Every serious battler in S&M battles on the Smogon Server and the Smogon ladder, so diverting from the place that literally defines the metagame is very foolish. The purpose of this test is to have a temporary resolution to the tier status of Manaphy in case the suspect test drags out any longer, and we have every reason to believe that it will.
So, how will this work? Manaphy will be unbanned once the server is rebooted, and everyone will have approximately two weeks to use Manaphy. All suspect battles must be done using the suspect ladder on the server. This is so that we can keep track of each participant's CRE.
There is no voting requirement. All you have to do is participate in the test. How will we monitor that? We won't: D_A and I trust that everyone on here can be honest about their experience playing with Manaphy as well as playing against it. We strongly urge members who have not participated much in the suspect test not to attempt to gain a vote, as you will be cheating the system and tainting the result. Once time for the test has expired, we will accept PMs that participants will send.
These PMs will have to contain an argument for the offensive characteristic on why Manaphy does or does not meet the given characteristic. If you feel that Manaphy is Uber based on the defensive or support characteristics, include that as well. Otherwise, it will be assumed that they are not a factor in your decision. As a reminder, here are all three characteristics:
You will also have to include at least two battle logs that support your claim. Save the whole battle log and bold the parts that are your evidence. It is also recommended that you include a brief explanation about why each log supports your position. We will also require that you include the team(s) you used in the battle logs you include--it's easy, just use the export to text feature in the team builder and then copy and paste it.
With your position, your team(s), your battle logs, and your CRE, D_A and I will choose what votes should be accepted. Note that D_A thinks that Manaphy is Uber and I think it is OU, so there willl not be any bias. Votes will be judged based only on the logic provided in the PM sent to us. If it is solid and strongly links Manaphy to being Uber or OU based on the characteristic(s) you provide, your vote will count.
Once D_A and I have sorted through the votes, Manaphy will either be banned or remain unbanned based on the result; all that is needed is a simple majority.
As a final note, we aren't expecting booming participation, so any policy outlined in this thread that proves to be unreasonable will be changed accordingly. Still, we need to determine Manaphy's tier stsus until Smogon is finished with its test.
NOTE: You need to read the whole thread before posting.
Introduction
The very appearance of this thread probably surprises a lot of you. Why are we running our own suspect test for Manaphy? Simply put, the Smogon suspect test is taking forever. Not only that, but policy is completely unpredictable seeing as it has been changed on the fly after both Stage 3-1 and Stage 3-2. Meanwhile, Manaphy is being left out of standard with two OU majorities (the more recent one being a super majority), and D_A and I are beginning to wonder when Smogon will actually end up concluding its suspect test. While I wanted to just let Manaphy into OU as the voters had determined, a test without Garchomp just in case it significantly hindered Manaphy is the safe choice, so D_A and I decided to do that.
Testing Process and Policies
The most important aspect of this test is that any conclusive result on Smogon overrules the results of our test. In other words, if we vote Manaphy to be Uber and Smogon unbans it, Manaphy will become OU on PokéCommunity as well. Why? Every serious battler in S&M battles on the Smogon Server and the Smogon ladder, so diverting from the place that literally defines the metagame is very foolish. The purpose of this test is to have a temporary resolution to the tier status of Manaphy in case the suspect test drags out any longer, and we have every reason to believe that it will.
So, how will this work? Manaphy will be unbanned once the server is rebooted, and everyone will have approximately two weeks to use Manaphy. All suspect battles must be done using the suspect ladder on the server. This is so that we can keep track of each participant's CRE.
There is no voting requirement. All you have to do is participate in the test. How will we monitor that? We won't: D_A and I trust that everyone on here can be honest about their experience playing with Manaphy as well as playing against it. We strongly urge members who have not participated much in the suspect test not to attempt to gain a vote, as you will be cheating the system and tainting the result. Once time for the test has expired, we will accept PMs that participants will send.
These PMs will have to contain an argument for the offensive characteristic on why Manaphy does or does not meet the given characteristic. If you feel that Manaphy is Uber based on the defensive or support characteristics, include that as well. Otherwise, it will be assumed that they are not a factor in your decision. As a reminder, here are all three characteristics:
Jumpman said:
You will also have to include at least two battle logs that support your claim. Save the whole battle log and bold the parts that are your evidence. It is also recommended that you include a brief explanation about why each log supports your position. We will also require that you include the team(s) you used in the battle logs you include--it's easy, just use the export to text feature in the team builder and then copy and paste it.
With your position, your team(s), your battle logs, and your CRE, D_A and I will choose what votes should be accepted. Note that D_A thinks that Manaphy is Uber and I think it is OU, so there willl not be any bias. Votes will be judged based only on the logic provided in the PM sent to us. If it is solid and strongly links Manaphy to being Uber or OU based on the characteristic(s) you provide, your vote will count.
Once D_A and I have sorted through the votes, Manaphy will either be banned or remain unbanned based on the result; all that is needed is a simple majority.
As a final note, we aren't expecting booming participation, so any policy outlined in this thread that proves to be unreasonable will be changed accordingly. Still, we need to determine Manaphy's tier stsus until Smogon is finished with its test.
