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Pokemon Hail Team (Support)

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    • Seen Jul 30, 2014
    I would like advise on how to improve this team.

    Abomasnow
    -Substitute
    -Leech Seed
    -Blizzard
    -Protect
    Nature: Calm
    EVs: 252 HP/172 Def/84 SDef
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Snow Warning

    (Tentacruel) @ Black Sludge
    Trait: Rain Dish
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 6 SDef
    Bold Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Scald
    - Rapid Spin
    - Toxic spikes
    - Blizzard

    Forretress@Leftovers
    Ability: Sturdy 
    Relaxed Nature 
    252 HP/176 Def/80 SpDef 
    -Rapid Spin 
    -Stealth Rock 
    -Spikes 
    -Volt Switch 

    Walrein @ Leftovers
    -Substitute
    -Protect
    -Roar
    -Blizzard
    Nature: Bold
    EVs: 232 HP/220 Def/56 Spe
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Ice Body

    Heatran
    -Fire Blast
    -Earth Power
    -Hidden Power (Ice)
    -Stealth Rock
    Nature: Modest
    EVs: 252 SAtk/4 SDef/252 Spe
    Item: Air Balloon
    Ability: Flash Fire

    Kyurem
    -Blizzard
    -Draco Meteor
    -Focus Blast
    -Earth Power
    Nature: Modest
    EVs: 252 SAtk/4 SDef/252 Spe
    Item: Choice Scarf
     
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    PlatinumDude

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  • While Ninjask seems tempting to use to Baton Pass Speed (and Attack) boosts, it's not really the best choice because of its really common weaknesses and low defenses. That, and if Ninjask attempts to Baton Pass when Hail is in effect, its Focus Sash will be broken by the hail. Given that Hail teams tend to be weak to Stealth Rock, Forretress can provide Rapid Spin support (even though Sturdy will be broken by Hail):
    -Spikes
    -Stealth Rock/Toxic Spikes
    -Rapid Spin
    -Gyro Ball/Earthquake/Volt Switch
    Nature: Relaxed/Sassy
    EVs: 252 HP/176 Def/80 SDef or 252 HP/4 Def/252 SDef
    Item: Leftovers/Shed Shell

    Resttalk seems tempting, but don't bother using it on Abomasnow because of the new sleep mechanics:
    -Blizzard
    -Grass Knot/Giga Drain/Wood Hammer
    -Hidden Power (Fire)
    -Earthquake
    Nature: Hasty
    EVs: 16 Atk/252 SAtk/240 Spe
    Item: Choice Scarf
    Ability: Snow Warning

    or
    -Substitute
    -Leech Seed
    -Blizzard/Ice Shard
    -Protect/Wood Hammer/Focus Punch
    Nature: Calm/Sassy
    EVs: 252 HP/172 Def/84 SDef
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Snow Warning

    or
    -Wood Hammer
    -Blizzard
    -Ice Shard
    -Hidden Power (Fire)
    Nature: Lonely
    EVs: 252 Atk/144 SAtk/112 Spe
    Item: Expert Belt
    Ability: Snow Warning

    or
    -Ice Shard
    -Wood Hammer/Seed Bomb
    -Protect
    -Leech Seed/Earthquake
    Nature: Adamant
    EVs: 188 HP/252 Atk/68 Spe
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Snow Warning

    or
    -Wood Hammer
    -Ice Shard
    -Earthquake
    -Focus Punch/Brick Break
    Nature: Adamant
    EVs: 172 HP/252 Atk/84 Spe
    Item: Choice Band
    Ability: Snow Warning

    I don't think Gliscor deserves a spot on a Hail team. Since Hail teams are vulnerable to Fire moves too, Heatran is a better alternative because of Flash Fire absorbing Fire moves:
    -Lava Plume
    -Will-o-Wisp/Toxic
    -Protect
    -Stealth Rock/Roar
    Nature: Calm
    EVs: 248 HP/252 SDef/8 Spe
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Flash Fire

    or
    -Fire Blast
    -Earth Power
    -Hidden Power (Ice/Grass)
    -Stealth Rock/Substitute/Taunt/Flame Charge
    Nature: Modest/Timid
    EVs: 252 SAtk/4 SDef/252 Spe
    Item: Life Orb/Air Balloon
    Ability: Flash Fire

    or
    -Magma Storm
    -Taunt/Substitute
    -Earth Power
    -Will-o-Wisp/Toxic/Hidden Power (Ice)
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 252 SAtk/4 SDef/252 Spe
    Item: Leftovers/Life Orb
    Ability: Flash Fire

    or
    -Substitute
    -Fire Blast
    -Earth Power
    -Toxic
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Flash Fire

    or
    -Overheat
    -Flamethrower
    -Earth Power
    -Hidden Power (Ice)/Dragon Pulse
    Nature: Timid/Modest
    EVs: 252 SAtk/4 SDef/252 Spe
    Item: Choice Scarf
    Ability: Flash Fire

    or
    -Overheat/Fire Blast
    -Earth Power
    -Dragon Pulse
    -Hidden Power (Grass)/Flamethrower
    Nature: Modest/Timid
    EVs: 252 SAtk/4 SDef/252 Spe
    Item: Choice Specs
    Ability: Flash Fire

    or
    -Substitute
    -Torment
    -Protect
    -Lava Plume
    Nature: Calm
    EVs: 244 HP/44 SDef/220 Spe
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Flash Fire

    Salamence seems out of place on the team, IMO. Kyurem is a better alternative over it because it can abuse STAB Blizzards while being immune to Hail at the same time:
    -Substitute
    -Roost
    -Dragon Pulse/Blizzard
    -Earth Power/Focus Blast
    Nature: Modest
    EVs: 56 HP/220 SAtk/236 Spe
    Item: Leftovers

    or
    -Blizzard
    -Draco Meteor
    -Focus Blast
    -Earth Power
    Nature: Timid/Modest
    EVs: 252 SAtk/4 SDef/252 Spe
    Item: Choice Specs/Choice Scarf

    or
    -Blizzard
    -Draco Meteor
    -Focus Blast/Earth Power
    -Roost/Earth Power
    Nature: Timid/Modest
    EVs: 32 HP/252 SAtk/224 Spe
    Item: Life Orb

    or
    -Draco Meteor
    -Blizzard
    -Earth Power
    -Outrage
    Nature: Hasty/Mild
    EVs: 32 Atk/252 SAtk/224 Spe
    Item: Life Orb

    Stallrein should look something like this; it's not meant to attack, but to stall out the opponent:
    -Substitute
    -Protect
    -Super Fang/Roar/Toxic
    -Blizzard/Surf
    Nature: Bold
    EVs: 232 HP/220 Def/56 Spe
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Ice Body
     
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    Updated the team based on your advice m8. But should I keep Tentacruel and Forretress on same team?

    Also how dose new team look? Kept Heatran and Kyurem as all-out attacker of the team.
     

    CourageHound

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  • PlatinumDude covered mostly everything but theres something I noticed right away. Your forrestres has ring target that makes it so that your immunities are nullified making you vulnerable to poison...
     
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    CourageHound Just replaced it with Leftovers, since it is better. Thanks for pointing out.
     
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