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So, this thread is about the issue of behavior in the community which was brought up in the S&M revival/fix-it thread. Since it is obviously naive to just think that everyone will be rose petals after being in an environment for so long where the opposite is accepted and pretty much expected, the S&M staff has been trying to figure out a fair policy when it comes to enforcing this "rule" ("be nice" is not a rule, but no disrespecting members is).
However, we are stuck.
There are a few problems we have had when it comes to forming this policy. The first that we all agreed that we should be nicer. Well okay, but what exactly does that mean? Should being mean in an implicit or subtle way be against the rules? When do comments go from just being in fun to being malicious and/or worthy of an infraction/kick/temporary server ban? There are a lot of issues like those (in the interest of avoiding making this tl;dr, I will avoid listing them), and it's hard to figure those things out. The basic idea though is that our standard for what is respectful and what is not has to be established. The things mentioned a month ago were obvious and flagrant, but what has troubled us has been things that could be considered borderline. Here we need your help.
The other issue is that once this standard is set, to what extend should it be forced? In other words, how strict should be be? In the past, we've tried to make the forum more laid back, but we have also tried tightening it up at other points. We would obviously would like to find a balance here, but only if that is what is generally desired by the community--you guys. We don't want to force rules onto you guys that no one thinks are fair. The goal is to make not just the standard fair but also how we enforce these rules. The main issue here is probably on the server and how people breaking the rules will be dealt with there, like how long of a leash we should give members with rule-breaking before resorting to temporary bans, then longer bans, etc. On a somewhat similar note, how strict should we be enforcing the hax complaining rule? I've received a few complaints about the amount of whining about it so I was curious what you guys thought on that as well.
We are genuinely stuck and would like some assistance. We just need a policy because persisting with the current policy of hoping that everyone will be nice is not going to do anyone much good.
However, we are stuck.
There are a few problems we have had when it comes to forming this policy. The first that we all agreed that we should be nicer. Well okay, but what exactly does that mean? Should being mean in an implicit or subtle way be against the rules? When do comments go from just being in fun to being malicious and/or worthy of an infraction/kick/temporary server ban? There are a lot of issues like those (in the interest of avoiding making this tl;dr, I will avoid listing them), and it's hard to figure those things out. The basic idea though is that our standard for what is respectful and what is not has to be established. The things mentioned a month ago were obvious and flagrant, but what has troubled us has been things that could be considered borderline. Here we need your help.
The other issue is that once this standard is set, to what extend should it be forced? In other words, how strict should be be? In the past, we've tried to make the forum more laid back, but we have also tried tightening it up at other points. We would obviously would like to find a balance here, but only if that is what is generally desired by the community--you guys. We don't want to force rules onto you guys that no one thinks are fair. The goal is to make not just the standard fair but also how we enforce these rules. The main issue here is probably on the server and how people breaking the rules will be dealt with there, like how long of a leash we should give members with rule-breaking before resorting to temporary bans, then longer bans, etc. On a somewhat similar note, how strict should we be enforcing the hax complaining rule? I've received a few complaints about the amount of whining about it so I was curious what you guys thought on that as well.
We are genuinely stuck and would like some assistance. We just need a policy because persisting with the current policy of hoping that everyone will be nice is not going to do anyone much good.